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gtown69 10-14-2006 04:27 PM

i've seen many talons run 11s. what makes it so hard to believe that a talon can beat a stock porsche.

sleepy GSR 10-15-2006 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by gtown69
i've seen many talons run 11s. what makes it so hard to believe that a talon can beat a stock porsche.

thats what we've been saying, its still nice to here about these kill stories though, but there are some idiots who start bashing right away, before they here the facts

StealthZ 10-15-2006 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by gtown69
i've seen many talons run 11s. what makes it so hard to believe that a talon can beat a stock porsche.

its still a talon tho, so who gives a .
if i had a porsche and you beat me in your talon, i would care really. why? cause ive got the exotic, and what do you have? a rusted talon.
its not always about a 1/4mi race. you should come to realize that one day.

DSMonster 10-15-2006 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by StealthZ
its still a talon tho, so who gives a .
if i had a porsche and you beat me in your talon, i would care really. why? cause ive got the exotic, and what do you have? a rusted talon.
its not always about a 1/4mi race. you should come to realize that one day.


This coming from a j-body owner :lol_hitti

Of course the porsche owner would care if he lost to a less expensive car. Thats just the way it is. Nobody goes out and buys a top-notch performance car and likes lossing to a lower class vehicle. Of course you wouldn't care about lossing, u drive a j-body , thats all your used to.

I know of a viper that got smoked by a 1st gen rx7. It pissed off the viper so much he went out and spent $50Gs on a hennessy package for his car, and still ended up lossing. I've beat porsches, vettes(z06s), supercharged M3 and boosted NSX's in the past, and they were all pissed that they couldn't beat my POS talon.

StealthZ 10-15-2006 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by DSMonster
This coming from a j-body owner :lol_hitti

Of course the porsche owner would care if he lost to a less expensive car. Thats just the way it is. Nobody goes out and buys a top-notch performance car and likes lossing to a lower class vehicle. Of course you wouldn't care about lossing, u drive a j-body , thats all your used to.

I know of a viper that got smoked by a 1st gen rx7. It pissed off the viper so much he went out and spent $50Gs on a hennessy package for his car, and still ended up lossing. I've beat porsches, vettes(z06s), supercharged M3 and boosted NSX's in the past, and they were all pissed that they couldn't beat my POS talon.

wow, well at least youll have something to tell your grandkids.
:loser:

DSMonster 10-15-2006 04:02 PM

:lame: When you get a real car, then come talk. Until then... you don't exist.

StealthZ 10-16-2006 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by DSMonster
:lame: When you get a real car, then come talk. Until then... you don't exist.

need i remind you you drive a ****in talon?!?!

yes, real car indeed. its a poor mans sports car.

thats all im gonna say on this topic.

if you think your car is a REAL car, youre sadly mistaken.

ALLAN_M 10-17-2006 10:14 AM

i can see where it would satisfy some1 with a peice of car to spank on a nice highly excepted car. but in the end ur the fukken loser tryin to compare ur garbage can to the exotic..

DSMonster 10-17-2006 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by ALLAN_M
i can see where it would satisfy some1 with a peice of car to spank on a nice highly excepted car. but in the end ur the fukken loser tryin to compare ur garbage can to the exotic..

Believe me, i know where I am on the food chain. And its much higher up than a j-body :lol_hitti .

Besides I'm happy being able to run 11's on pump gas with street tires in my garbage can. :la:

StealthZ 10-17-2006 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by DSMonster
Believe me, i know where I am on the food chain. And its much higher up than a j-body :lol_hitti .

Besides I'm happy being able to run 11's on pump gas with street tires in my garbage can. :la:

****, i dont know why i keep coming back to this thread and trying to deal with this redneck ****er. alright fine, you are way higher up then mine (not really, but thats what you wanna hear, so i dont care).

and im glad you can run 11's in your talon. im also glad you spent so much on that thing that youll be driving it when ur old and bald jus cause u cant afford anything else. but hey, u run 11s, ur cool riding around from light to light wearing your metallica jean jacket.

oh and ps, a good car isnt one that is just good in a straight line, remember that.

DSMonster 10-18-2006 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by StealthZ
****, i dont know why i keep coming back to this thread and trying to deal with this redneck ****er. alright fine, you are way higher up then mine (not really, but thats what you wanna hear, so i dont care).

and im glad you can run 11's in your talon. im also glad you spent so much on that thing that youll be driving it when ur old and bald jus cause u cant afford anything else. but hey, u run 11s, ur cool riding around from light to light wearing your metallica jean jacket.

oh and ps, a good car isnt one that is just good in a straight line, remember that.

Well I wasn't going to respond either, but your just so humourous.

Redneck?!?!?! LMFAO...... I grew up in a metro housing project in scarboro......CHESTER LE (VP & Finch)you may remember it from the "Real Toronto DVD" :AR15firin
Metalica jean jacket?!?!?!? LMFAO once again. I'm a rastafarian, so you'd more likely to catch me in a Bob Marley T-shirt :smokin: Great judge of character :smilie_da

Now as for the comment about going in a straight line.... My car is set-up to take turns quite well actually, thanks to my Koni yellow/eibach sportline combo. AWD is unbeatable in bad weather too. And to top it off, I get way better gas milage(off boost) than 95% of the cars with my kind of power.

As for spending all kinds of $ on my car. Well I found the talon with a blown motor for $700, and then transfered all my mods from my laser over, and added a few goodies of course.. I did all the work myself which prolly saved me at least 5-7G's in labour alone. So really I didn't spend that much at all compared to most guys that have someone else build their cars for them.

StealthZ, your a funny guy....keep it up :lol_hitti

Mean98Neon 10-18-2006 09:23 PM

thats cool that it was a freindly race, I like those ones the best!! I dont like calling a guys ride a piece of or cutting him off when I get ahead then flipping the bird. I like to race and see what happens give him the thumbs up like u said. I also wont back down if i think Im gunna lose.. I like racing fast as hell cars just to see if I can keep up at all and here them rip hahahaha....

ALLAN_M 10-19-2006 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by DSMonster
Believe me, i know where I am on the food chain. And its much higher up than a j-body :lol_hitti .

Besides I'm happy being able to run 11's on pump gas with street tires in my garbage can. :la:

NO NO dont get it twisted man i wasnt tryin to bash u or anything
im jus sayin how i feel bout the topic. I am one of those guys comparing my cheap car to a nice exotic too. but in the end WE SUCK cuz the other guy we jus beat in the porsche is still laughin at us

ALLAN_M 10-19-2006 10:00 AM

HAHAH YES DSmonster
u tell that pencil dicked butt fukker. i cant stand his ass either.
REPPIN SCARBORO over here too.

4g63det 12-31-2006 01:45 PM

People are unreal, give the guy some respect for what he has done to his car, keep in mind that dsms came with 195 hp stock and ran 15's. Name another car you can put minimal amomunts of money into and have it spank vettes and porsches? Sure its no exotic and thats the point, 99% of the people in the world cant pull 100+ grand out of there ass, and if they can all they know about their car is where to put gas into it.

Good Kill Dude!:smilie_da

Keep it up.

Sebasano 01-01-2007 08:13 PM

Great Kill. DSM haters are coming out of the woodworks now. Must be rough not being able to hunt down a porsche.

Btw the talon is a 1g or 2g? Didn't notice the answer anywhere in the thread.

N

DSMonster 01-02-2007 05:18 PM

^^^ The talon in question is a FWD 1Ga. So it would have an advantage against an AWD Carrera from a roll. With how hard I've pulled on a Carrera, I have no problems believing the outcome of that race, especially since my old turbo set-up is in that car too :smilie_da

Sebasano 01-02-2007 05:44 PM

What we should have posted is what a street legal car can beat. Have this in all categories...ie. Talon, Civic etc.

Seb

-=B4UR2L8=- 01-22-2007 01:40 PM

all i can say ... this thread went from a story of how he beats or whatever a porsche into a huge cry fest ... ladies ... just chill & post positive facts & such ... not debating what people say ... if u dont believe then dont respond! ... easy as that !

Braver13 01-25-2007 04:02 PM

wow...
i read this b4 and i still think its a great kill.
makes me respect the talon more.

Young gun 01-25-2007 05:58 PM

Of course noone will believe u beat him, 98% of the ppl on this forum drive 15sec + cars....

also its funny when they have to quote msn autos and so on to tell you how fast a carrera is...


my car can't touch a carrera yet, but i know a handfull of dudes will less than 10g dumped into their cars that can smoke em

sleepy GSR 01-27-2007 03:25 PM

its funny how people (that stupid fuk stealthz mostly) start bashing on a legit kill, when a box (and ive driven that talon before, believe me its not a box) spanks an expensive exotic, i mean, what do you suggest people should post in the KILL STORIES section: a guy in a c6 vette just beat a guy in an integra... big whoop.

The whole point of having a modified box is because you obviously cant afford an exotic, so to mention that the guy in the carrera is laughing at you every time you beat him, is not true... he is crying because he was just handed his ass by a box... and the salesman at the dealership said that he is faster than anything on the road.

So to all the haters, just shut the fuk up, and learn how to appreciate the hard work and knowledge that people have put into their cars.

thehickfarmer 01-27-2007 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by sleepy GSR
its funny how people (that stupid fuk stealthz mostly) start bashing on a legit kill, when a box (and ive driven that talon before, believe me its not a box) spanks an expensive exotic, i mean, what do you suggest people should post in the KILL STORIES section: a guy in a c6 vette just beat a guy in an integra... big whoop.

The whole point of having a modified box is because you obviously cant afford an exotic, so to mention that the guy in the carrera is laughing at you every time you beat him, is not true... he is crying because he was just handed his ass by a box... and the salesman at the dealership said that he is faster than anything on the road.

So to all the haters, just shut the fuk up, and learn how to appreciate the hard work and knowledge that people have put into their cars.

AMEN BROTHER!:thumbsup:
Couldent of said it beter.
Marko

ALLAN_M 01-27-2007 10:11 PM

I agree very well put

ice effect 01-28-2007 11:57 PM

again, thanx guys for the replies and support, great words indeed sleepy GSR, and thats the whole point of this thread and this section in general. but as some of you know next summer or the one after that its still a dsm, only TOTTALLY new setup, and much more expensive cars to beat than the carrera ;)

87Shelbyz_Turbo 01-29-2007 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by ice effect
again, thanx guys for the replies and support, great words indeed sleepy GSR, and thats the whole point of this thread and this section in general. but as some of you know next summer or the one after that its still a dsm, only TOTTALLY new setup, and much more expensive cars to beat than the carrera ;)


I get first dibs lol except mine isnt that exotic lol

sleepy GSR 01-29-2007 04:44 PM

ooooooooh, that car is gonna be sick... eating up the competition.

kyriian 01-29-2007 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by ice effect
again, thanx guys for the replies and support, great words indeed sleepy GSR, and thats the whole point of this thread and this section in general. but as some of you know next summer or the one after that its still a dsm, only TOTTALLY new setup, and much more expensive cars to beat than the carrera ;)

that i'd want to see.... :smilie_da

ice effect 01-31-2007 07:06 PM

^ heres a sneak preview

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...15_12_full.jpg


:smokin:

Pro$p3ct 02-01-2007 02:04 PM

Good kill. Having lived in Edgewater, New Jersey for a few months, I have seen numerous Carrera's, Boxter S', Z3's, Z4's etc. and I can vouch that one can buy an Eagle Talon, Honda Civic, etc. basically an economy car, modify it to be responsive, and it will smoke a high end car. Any mechanic that knows what he's doing can modify a Talon to kill a Carerra. Why? The 4g63det engine responds VERY well to mods, better than a cavalier or a cobalt, or lower-end domestic vehicles. Ice effect...nice kill, and tell us more about the project in the works. P.S. with that talon you should have numerous kill stories..keep them coming!

sleepy GSR 02-01-2007 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by Pro$p3ct
Good kill. Having lived in Edgewater, New Jersey for a few months, I have seen numerous Carrera's, Boxter S', Z3's, Z4's etc.

you know, we do have those here too. and they're not so rare.

DSMonster 02-02-2007 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Pro$p3ct
Any mechanic that knows what he's doing can modify a Talon to kill a Carerra. Why? The 4g63det engine ...

Its not a nissan, lol. No 'det' in the engine code, a simple 4G63T will do :smilie_da .

Ice effect, are u going to have enuff for me this summer? :la:

Pro$p3ct 02-02-2007 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by DSMonster
Its not a nissan, lol. No 'det' in the engine code, a simple 4G63T will do :smilie_da .

Ice effect, are u going to have enuff for me this summer? :la:

o lol sorry i was thinking of the rb25det when i was writing this post...i dont know how i slipped det in there lol thanks for the correction

DSMonster 02-02-2007 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by Pro$p3ct
o lol sorry i was thinking of the rb25det when i was writing this post...i dont know how i slipped det in there lol thanks for the correction


Both great motors, simple mistake :smilie_da

Z-Tuned 02-03-2007 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by 79camaro
Horsepower (SAE) 355 hp 355 hp
Torque 295 lb-ft 295 lb-ft
@ rpm 4,600 rpm 4,600 rpm
Compression ratio 11.8 : 1 11.8 : 1
Manual Tiptronic S
Performance Top track speed 182 mph 177 mph
0-60 mph 4.6 sec 5.0 sec
0-99 mph 10.7 sec 11.6 sec
MSRP $ 114,800.00 $ 119,590.00


I find it a little unbelievable that you beat this car by 3-4 cars let alone beat it...

Wow, big deal I have more torque in my winter beater :smilie_d0

Its funny how ppl immediately hate when they drive heaps. I ran a 996 TT on the highway and it was pretty even 100km on up. I mentioned it to some ppl were calling BS looking at each other smirking...go figure they drove heaps too.

Lets do the math.

420hp - 20% driveline loss = 334whp in a car 200lbs heavier than an R32:retard:

sleepy GSR 02-03-2007 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by DSMonster

Ice effect, are u going to have enuff for me this summer? :la:


Now that would be something worth watching....

gtown69 02-03-2007 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by 79camaro
Compare this model with the
911 Carrera
Manual Tiptronic S
Engine Cylinders 6 6
Displacement 3.8 l 3.8 l
Engine layout Rear engine Rear engine
Horsepower (SAE) 355 hp 355 hp
Torque 295 lb-ft 295 lb-ft
@ rpm 4,600 rpm 4,600 rpm
Compression ratio 11.8 : 1 11.8 : 1
Manual Tiptronic S
Performance Top track speed 182 mph 177 mph
0-60 mph 4.6 sec 5.0 sec
0-99 mph 10.7 sec 11.6 sec
MSRP $ 114,800.00 $ 119,590.00




I find it a little unbelievable that you beat this car by 3-4 cars let alone beat it...

all i know is if that Carrera showed up at the races it would get smoked.

ALLAN_M 02-03-2007 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by gtown69
all i know is if that Carrera showed up at the races it would get smoked.

i dont know about that but im sure there are very few cars that can beat one there

sleepy GSR 02-05-2007 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by ALLAN_M
i dont know about that but im sure there are very few cars that can beat one there

really depends on what kind of carrera it is... if its a stock non turbo 996 or older, then it would probably get owned by more than a few cars.... but if its a turbo than it would probably kill most of the guys that come to these "gatherings" but there are definetely a few guys here that i know would hand them their asses.

Darkness_v2 02-14-2007 10:16 PM

...
 
i love Dsm ive always wanted one

Great kill

that is one of the reasons y

gotta respect those cars

:smilie_da


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