possible swaps for a firefly/swift/metro
what engine is stock on those cars, and specs if u have them
also i heard there is a turbo motor available specs? is there any other engine thats pretty much a drop-in? tnx for info |
Yes there were Turbo Firefly's and they were pretty quick for what they were. I dont' know anything about them you'd have to search for info about them.
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You can also put the high revving 1.3L DOHC 16V engine in there. Makes something like 100hp.
Either way its eternally slow. |
you can put a 4 door sift bottom end(1.6 sohc) and mate it to a GT head (1.3 dohc) use a 2.0 prelude timing belt or a grand vitara belt. i made 153 Whp with that swap...my GT weighed 1300 pound.. you do the math.. ran 13.4's in the quater..at 100ish trap speeds.
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crazy... frankenstein motors for Suzukis
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Originally Posted by v8_kllr
you can put a 4 door sift bottom end(1.6 sohc) and mate it to a GT head (1.3 dohc) use a 2.0 prelude timing belt or a grand vitara belt. i made 153 Whp with that swap...my GT weighed 1300 pound.. you do the math.. ran 13.4's in the quater..at 100ish trap speeds.
1300lbs eh? I don't think that's possible. |
i removed all 4 rebars from the car(front/rear/both doors)so thats about 300 pounds..considering the car's curb weight was close to 1900..minus the 300..carbon hood..fiberglass doors...
well regardless...it was 1300 pounds on a truck scale. i have nothing to prove. how much does your festiva weigh? last i seen you lifted it off the ground at HK. |
My POS weighs about 1940lbs with a completely full tank and a box with 2 10" subs in the back. That's why I didn't think 1300lbs sounded right. I know how my car is constructed, and I know how a Swift is constructed (I helped a buddy pull an engine out of one a few weeks ago). The Swift seems to be better built, it has a more complicated rear suspension. I think the Festivas are lighter then the Swifts, and I think it would be damn near impossible to remove 200lbs, let alone 600lbs from my car without giving it the structural integrity of a box made of aluminum foil.
If it actually weighs 1300lbs, I would serious consider building a steel box out of 1/2" thick steel plate and placing it around the driver :laugh: |
well you also need to remember a majority of that car is aluminium. that, and high support from australia( swift GT is a Cultus 1.3/Turbo/AWD) i just interchanged parts with that car.....cost a ing fortune.. but yeah..it was close enough to a track car nevermind...all i needed was fiberglass quaters a rollcage..i could have raced in GTC class lol
whatever, all i know is my teg is a fat bitch..i might pull the rebars out of this car too..lose 250 pounds lol |
Originally Posted by v8_kllr
you can put a 4 door sift bottom end(1.6 sohc) and mate it to a GT head (1.3 dohc) use a 2.0 prelude timing belt or a grand vitara belt. i made 153 Whp with that swap...my GT weighed 1300 pound.. you do the math.. ran 13.4's in the quater..at 100ish trap speeds.
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Myself and a friend are dropping a turbo into his firefly. Its a very simple and easy car to work on. Light weight and it has potential to go fast. BTW, its a T25 and the manifold is coming off the 1.3 turbo. We're going to try to do it as cheap as possible and write a full how-to. Should be fun.
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Originally Posted by Midnight Racer
Is it even possible to put an dohc head on a sohc block?
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^ Well with some companies, the SOHC and DOHC blocks are different... like Honda and it's D and B series blocks for example. But with Mazda and the Mazda B-series of engines, the block castings themselves are the same between the SOHC and DOHC varients of the engines. If you had a basic Mazda 323 with a SOHC 1.6L, you *could* put a DOHC cylinder head on top. You would need to change the pistons (different valve reliefs), but it could be done.
Originally Posted by J camel
Myself and a friend are dropping a turbo into his firefly. Its a very simple and easy car to work on. Light weight and it has potential to go fast. BTW, its a T25 and the manifold is coming off the 1.3 turbo. We're going to try to do it as cheap as possible and write a full how-to. Should be fun.
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well you need to remember that suzuki only made those models in specific years..they were interchangeable..from what i can recall very minor machining had to be done..something with dowel alignment maybe?
but with suzuki..there are no d series/b series etc..they were limited production..even more reason for it to bolt up.. |
I'm actually looking to get a swift... looking at a 98 and wanting to spend around $3000 or so. From what I researched, 98+ have a 1.3L 4cyl SOHC 16v instead of 8v, and push about 80hp stock.
Didn't the 16v SOHC head flow as good as the DOHC head? |
the new swifts are CRAP...the ones you want are 89-91.5 GTi...or 91.5-94 GT
the GTi weighted a bit less, the GT is more practical.. the GTi got tossed due to copyright infringements, since VW's Rabbit was a GTi at least 5 years prior.... the Swift GT/GTi was on some list for most liter/hp pocket rocket...within the top 15 i think.. |
GTi was 89 only.
GT was from 90-94 (north america) others were available overseas (ie. aus)... |
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i recently just bought a firefly, its got a 1.0L 3 cyl engine in it, turbo tranny to, its pretty quick 4 wat it is, iv always wanted to get a 1.3L dohc 16v crate motor and drop that in, only thing is that those motor can get as high as $15,000, im still looking for a stock gti doner car and imma just swap everything over to the fly, or maybe ill just sell and swap a 3400 into my cavalier insted.
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haha, cool post.
i have my girlfriends 1994 glx, my 1989 turbo firefly, my 1994 gt (parts car and it is also being parted out, everything almost gone tho) , and my 1991 sedan. i parted out my mint 94 gt cause i had it for sale in many places and no one wanted it, i sold the tranny, 4 wheel disc setup, seats, and someother stuff. i am keeping the motor and swapping it into my 91 sedan, gonna keep it auto to for know. i have parts galore tho if you need any. |
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