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Old 06-29-2005, 03:08 PM
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possible swaps for a firefly/swift/metro

what engine is stock on those cars, and specs if u have them

also i heard there is a turbo motor available specs?

is there any other engine thats pretty much a drop-in?

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Yes there were Turbo Firefly's and they were pretty quick for what they were. I dont' know anything about them you'd have to search for info about them.
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You can also put the high revving 1.3L DOHC 16V engine in there. Makes something like 100hp.

Either way its eternally slow.
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you can put a 4 door sift bottom end(1.6 sohc) and mate it to a GT head (1.3 dohc) use a 2.0 prelude timing belt or a grand vitara belt. i made 153 Whp with that swap...my GT weighed 1300 pound.. you do the math.. ran 13.4's in the quater..at 100ish trap speeds.
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Originally Posted by v8_kllr
you can put a 4 door sift bottom end(1.6 sohc) and mate it to a GT head (1.3 dohc) use a 2.0 prelude timing belt or a grand vitara belt. i made 153 Whp with that swap...my GT weighed 1300 pound.. you do the math.. ran 13.4's in the quater..at 100ish trap speeds.

1300lbs eh? I don't think that's possible.
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i removed all 4 rebars from the car(front/rear/both doors)so thats about 300 pounds..considering the car's curb weight was close to 1900..minus the 300..carbon hood..fiberglass doors...

well regardless...it was 1300 pounds on a truck scale. i have nothing to prove.
how much does your festiva weigh? last i seen you lifted it off the ground at HK.
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My POS weighs about 1940lbs with a completely full tank and a box with 2 10" subs in the back. That's why I didn't think 1300lbs sounded right. I know how my car is constructed, and I know how a Swift is constructed (I helped a buddy pull an engine out of one a few weeks ago). The Swift seems to be better built, it has a more complicated rear suspension. I think the Festivas are lighter then the Swifts, and I think it would be damn near impossible to remove 200lbs, let alone 600lbs from my car without giving it the structural integrity of a box made of aluminum foil.

If it actually weighs 1300lbs, I would serious consider building a steel box out of 1/2" thick steel plate and placing it around the driver
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well you also need to remember a majority of that car is aluminium. that, and high support from australia( swift GT is a Cultus 1.3/Turbo/AWD) i just interchanged parts with that car.....cost a ing fortune.. but yeah..it was close enough to a track car nevermind...all i needed was fiberglass quaters a rollcage..i could have raced in GTC class lol


whatever, all i know is my teg is a fat bitch..i might pull the rebars out of this car too..lose 250 pounds lol
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Originally Posted by v8_kllr
you can put a 4 door sift bottom end(1.6 sohc) and mate it to a GT head (1.3 dohc) use a 2.0 prelude timing belt or a grand vitara belt. i made 153 Whp with that swap...my GT weighed 1300 pound.. you do the math.. ran 13.4's in the quater..at 100ish trap speeds.
Is it even possible to put an dohc head on a sohc block?
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Myself and a friend are dropping a turbo into his firefly. Its a very simple and easy car to work on. Light weight and it has potential to go fast. BTW, its a T25 and the manifold is coming off the 1.3 turbo. We're going to try to do it as cheap as possible and write a full how-to. Should be fun.
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Originally Posted by Midnight Racer
Is it even possible to put an dohc head on a sohc block?
i odnt see why not the "block" section ends before the head gasket and all it is is the crankshaft and piston assembly inside the housing... therefore the head, is a seperate peace with the valves cams and so on. It sould work
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^ Well with some companies, the SOHC and DOHC blocks are different... like Honda and it's D and B series blocks for example. But with Mazda and the Mazda B-series of engines, the block castings themselves are the same between the SOHC and DOHC varients of the engines. If you had a basic Mazda 323 with a SOHC 1.6L, you *could* put a DOHC cylinder head on top. You would need to change the pistons (different valve reliefs), but it could be done.

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Myself and a friend are dropping a turbo into his firefly. Its a very simple and easy car to work on. Light weight and it has potential to go fast. BTW, its a T25 and the manifold is coming off the 1.3 turbo. We're going to try to do it as cheap as possible and write a full how-to. Should be fun.
I challenge him to a duel.
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well you need to remember that suzuki only made those models in specific years..they were interchangeable..from what i can recall very minor machining had to be done..something with dowel alignment maybe?

but with suzuki..there are no d series/b series etc..they were limited production..even more reason for it to bolt up..
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