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brownkaos112 03-17-2005 01:47 PM

Conviction Date or Offence date?
 
hey i was just wondering... does the tickets on your driving abstract get erased 3 years after the offence.. or 3 years after the conviction of that offence

yourmama 03-17-2005 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by brownkaos112
hey i was just wondering... does the tickets on your driving abstract get erased 3 years after the offence.. or 3 years after the conviction of that offence


Abstract usually shows 3 years. Points go for two years from date of conviction.

Insurance company looks at anything in the last 3 years for minor tickets, and 5 to 7 years for accidents and serious convictions such as impaired, dangerous, or racing.

And your overall driving record? Nothing is ever erased from it. The ticket you get at age 16 will still be on your Ministry driving record on the day you die.

Daley 03-17-2005 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by yourmama
And your overall driving record? Nothing is ever erased from it. The ticket you get at age 16 will still be on your Ministry driving record on the day you die.

But most people can't see that - like the abstracts don't show it or the insurance companies don't see it..so its not so bad.

When police officers pull up your information in the car, how far back does their info there go to?

Low-Low 03-17-2005 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Daley
When police officers pull up your information in the car, how far back does their info there go to?

Everything. Driving Record, Criminal Record. Hell, If you pissed your pants in grade 2. They know about it. :smilie_da

Daley 03-17-2005 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Low-Low
Everything. Driving Record, Criminal Record. Hell, If you pissed your pants in grade 2. They know about it. :smilie_da

While they're in their cruiser pulling it up? I'm not talking about a full background check..but what they can see on their monitor in the car.

brownkaos112 03-18-2005 12:06 AM

I was actually talkin about the driver abstract when i started this topic... i found out its 3 years from the conviction date and then your ticket is erased from your DRIVERS ABSTRACT...

the reason i asked is for insurance purposes.... i dont care if cops can see all my tickets from when i first got my license... as long as the insurance companies cant im fine...

yourmama 03-18-2005 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Daley
While they're in their cruiser pulling it up? I'm not talking about a full background check..but what they can see on their monitor in the car.


They can do a full background check from the car.

Moosexing 03-18-2005 08:06 AM

As far as driver history goes, police can see all the way back to the day you were born on the computer.

Superbird281 03-18-2005 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by yourmama
They can do a full background check from the car.

http://www.orwell.ru/bio/gallery/img/_0146w.jpg
"The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed—would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper—the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."

yourmama 03-18-2005 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Superbird281
"The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed—would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper—the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."


Let's see if I get this straight...

you equate traffic laws intended to help safeguard the public from the driving excesses of vehicular morons as being in the same league as laws against "thought crime"?

Give your head a shake, you self-centered self-indulgent little .

This has nothing to do with thought crime. This has to do with you being held to the consequences of your choice to knowingly commit illegal activities that pose direct and adverse risk to the well-being of others.

If you don't want your past history to turn up on that screen in the cruiser, then don't do the illegal acts that will create a history in the first place.

B6T 03-18-2005 06:17 PM

^ How many tickets do you have?

yourmama 03-18-2005 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by B6T
^ How many tickets do you have?


Two.

Both for when the parking meter ran out.

Oh yeah, one more.... didn't have my driver's license on me one day a long time ago.

I've never had my insurance cancelled, never paid an insurance surcharge for tickets, and never seen an insurance increase for putting in an insurance claim (twice in six years) when others have run into me.

I also don't have to cringe about what the cop will see about me on the screen if I get pulled over.

scottyp 03-18-2005 07:56 PM

Are you guys sure it is not from the offence date? I recall them changing the ruling because a lot of people were asking for delays in their trial to avoid having so many points (under the former system which went under conviction date) so they can can avoid suspensions.

Clarification from a government site I beleive is in order.

scott

yourmama 03-18-2005 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by scottyp
Are you guys sure it is not from the offence date? I recall them changing the ruling because a lot of people were asking for delays in their trial to avoid having so many points (under the former system which went under conviction date) so they can can avoid suspensions.

Clarification from a government site I beleive is in order.

scott

It is from date of offence, changed precisely for the reason you state. I mispoke. (and have gone back to edit.)

yourmama 03-18-2005 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by yourmama
Abstract usually shows 3 years. Points go for two years from date of offence edit/, not conviction/edit.

Insurance company looks at anything in the last 3 years for minor tickets, and 5 to 7 years for accidents and serious convictions such as impaired, dangerous, or racing.

And your overall driving record? Nothing is ever erased from it. The ticket you get at age 16 will still be on your Ministry driving record on the day you die.


I can't edit the original post for some reason, so I'll repost....

I mispoke. It is from date of offence, and not conviction. Don't know how I did that, seeing as this question comes up all the time.


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