speeding ticket over the weeknd
 

i got a ticket over the weeknd on the highway in kitchener..for anyone who lives in this area its the cutoff from hwy 8 to hwy 86 going to waterloo...the cop said i was doing 115 on the bend when it was a 90 zone..i didn't dispute that cause i knew i was speeding..i told him i was going with the flow of traffic and he denied that there was any traffic at all. being the dumbass he was he started to bitch and yell right in my ear and i had asked why. he said he was yelling because he couldn't hear his own voice because of all the traffic..anyways he also said that he didn't like my "KIND" of ppl..i'm viet btw..he then came back and gave me a ticket for doing 130 because it was his "professional opinion" that that was the speeding i was actually going that speed...four guys in a maxima going around a bend like that @ 130 km/h would be downright stupid..i'm gonna fight this cause my neighbour is his boss cause he's a sargent in this region...wish me luck

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Fight it ... if I were you i'd look deeper into discrimination laws or whatevevr , and take him to court for saying what he said , and then , based on the fact that u're vietnamese , pumped up your speed ...

If you get to the right ppl you should have a very good change at ing him up , AND getting rid of the ticket

I know that area really well since I live right there. You really have to watch that bend. They also love the area where it goes from 80 to 60 to 50 where the highway ends at King. They love to sit under that overpass. I always get off the highway there, and I make sure I'm only doing 60 there. Pisses everyone off behind me but em. I'm not getting a ticket. The other place you have to watch on the expressway is the bend heading north before brideport. They love to sit on the left side beside the guard rail, and you can't see them until it's too late. You probably got the same who pulled me over a few weeks ago. See the project erase thread. Fight it. :smilie_da

but i wouldn't even worry about fighting the ticket ...

try to sue for discrimination at first ,that will also by default get rid of the ticket ... you will not want to discuss discrimination with a trafic judge .

I was in a housing court a few weeks ago , a tennant sued by his landlord was smart enough to put the landlord on the stand and make him lie , prooving that he lied . Then he asked the stupid judge to take actions required in this case ( i think the landlord was facing jail time ) , and the er refused .

You know it's like the difference from a cop that runs after heavy drug dealers and organised crime , and some fat giving tickets and eating doughuts

descrimination my ass.Just because he said he dosent like you dosent mean he was being racist.People just use that as a tool to get off of faults in life.

well i never really said he was discriminating because of my race..he could of meant he didn't like me cause i'm a young guy who thinks he's invincible..don't really know what he meant but still it should have been said because its still discriminating against a group of people whatever it may be..

This sounds very wierd ...

so he pulls you over tells u u were dooing 115 kmph
then he tells you he doesn't like your kind
then he gives you a ticket for 130 kmph ...

did he show you the radar ? ? did he even have it ?

regardless i think you have a good case of racist discrimination if you take him to court based on those 3 events in that order , and if you were indeed dooing less than 130 kmph ...

doesn't matter which "kind" he was talking about , he ed up by saying it and then bumping the speed ...

so this was next to kitchiner or what ... how's the asian density there , if it's white truck drivers only you might have an extra white ball on your case .

kitchener is full of germans.The recent holocaust denier owned a radio store there and was just deported (ernst zundel).On hitlers b-day the news showed a apartment with a huge nazi flag flapping from the balcony.There is a high activity of white supremists there.Not as much as london ontario tho.

I actually found a street named Swastika Trail around Cambridge somewhere.

You should ask for a court date.

But in the meantime, go to the local OPP detachment that this officer works at and ask to speak to the administration Sgt or Staff Sergeant and ask for an investigation into the remarks made at roadside. This should be relatively quick (couple weeks). If an answer is provided about the officers actions/words that you accept then go forward to court. If NOT proceed to the OACCP site and ask for another investigation, if court date comes up, ask it to be adjourned due to the ongoing investigation.

Now back to other comments:
1) The officer does not have to show any readings etc from laser or radar at roadside. If it is a mobile radar unit, you probably can see it mounted on the dash anyway. A handheld, you would have seen the officer pointing it at you.
2) Sergeant is your neighbour, that makes a difference how? Any officer of any rank that interferes with ANY process of the judicial system can be charged under the Police Services Act "discredible conduct" and criminally "obstruct justice", sure the neighbour wouldn't put their neck out for a simple traffic ticket
3) Traffic collisions resulting in injuries and deaths are a lot higher as compared to any drug problems we have in Ontario. Sure drug users get all messed up and affect their lives, but drugs are taken by and individual person......as compared to anyone driving a motor vehicle and striking another person driving along with their families. I would rather police target more on traffic offences and target bad drivers that "think" they know how to drive. Most druggies only affect themselves or sometimes hurt one another anyway.

Just my 0.02 :)

Just comment on ^, I agree traffic laws needs to be enforced strongly, but speed traps is not the way to go. We need more blitz on drivers changing lanes without signalling, tailgating , cutting people off, etc. I personally don't believe speed traps gets rid of bad drivers. Speed traps are easy to enforce and get an easy conviction. At the end of the day, that's what law enforcement comes down too.

How many doughnuts can you eat while sitting at a speed trap ?

How many doughnuts can you eat while cruising arround very aware of who's an idiot ?

Doughnuts at speed traps would be cheaper.....you can buy them by the dozen, which is better than individually priced.....

However, individually you can keep buying fresh ones off the shelf :)

I see your logic. But targeting traffic should not be limited to speed traps. I would say that speed control should be less then 10% of traffic tickets. The rest should be lane changes, solid lane crossings, etc... Basically anything not involving sitting and waiting with radars or at the red lights.
1. It will teach drivers to obey rules and not just speed limits
2. Drivers will be more alert and obey rules if there is a cop driving around.

I AGREE a well balanced enforcement of traffic is a lot better.

I guess the biggest case in point would be traffic in the GTA.....how many drivers follow at proper distance? and speed? 5% or less

To free congestion on the 400 series hwys, put the chevrons back in place to stay apart, now if everyone would stay at the speed limit, they could all maintain the distance and any users merging into traffic (accelerated to match the speed) would have ample room to merge. But none of this will ever happen.

This works for me.
 

ABSOLUETLY!!!!! :appl:

first of all, cbrige_accord,
you have a good case and i'm sure you'll get off. write down all details so you don't forget. do what others told you to do. you can totally use "your kind" as leverage, whatever he meant. even if it's not what he meant, he's an officer of the law and he should watch his language. he didn't. use it.

secondly, moosexing,
not that this is very important in this case, but you're so wrong. when <whoever it was> said that a cop doing drug busts is doing more work then a cop sitting w/ a radar, he was right. He wasn't talking about going to a park and catching kids smoking weed, foo. He's talking about big drug ops, where there are container of thousands of kilos of E and coke arriving daily. In this case it's much more serious then ppl messing themselves up. "Those" ppl will mess up a small army for this kind of money. I'm sure they have the means.

Do you wanna create a perfect enviroment for senior driving? If this ever happens forget about going on 400/401 ever again. It will be a parking lot 24/7. If you wanna reduce the congestion, you need to increase the speed limit. This will minimise the time of each car on the road, thus minimising congestion.

Thank you for your point of view, but I still disagree

Here are problems that drastically affect traffic flow:

1) HUGE FOLLOWING TOO CLOSE PROBLEM
2) Not enough time (ie people not leaving enough time to get to their destination in time, thus have to drive excessively fast to get there)

This creates:
- collisions (as drivers unable to stop in time for the vehicle in front)
- rubber necking (as drivers "rubberneck" to get view of the crash, they cause another one themselves
- unable to properly merge as driver's following too close, thus traffic is slowed, causing further following too close and irate driver's (as they are now late for wherever they are going) cutting into spots smaller than a vehicle itself

So back to original food for thought:

If drivers left at a earlier time (even 15 min) drove at or near the speed limit and left lots of space between themselves and another vehicle this would prevent congestion. Merging vehicle coming on at the speed limit would not slow down the express lanes, they would have ample room to merge, without "cutting someone off", with the increased space, if there happened to be a vehicle failure and slow, others would have time to react and not cause a collision

OR....here's a combined thought

have the speed limit increased by lane and enforced strictly as well as following too close, this might also prevent the zig-zagging of the lane changer

ie (lanes numbered by left to right)
Lane
1 140km/hr
2 120km/hr
3 100km/hr
4 80km/hr-100km/hr

OR approach all automakers and have a sensor installed in all cars front bumper area, if you are withing "X" number of feet at "Y" speed the vehicle will not allow you to go any faster and follow too close........just a goofy thought :)