cbridge_accord

i got a ticket over the weeknd on the highway in kitchener..for anyone who lives in this area its the cutoff from hwy 8 to hwy 86 going to waterloo...the cop said i was doing 115 on the bend when it was a 90 zone..i didn't dispute that cause i knew i was speeding..i told him i was going with the flow of traffic and he denied that there was any traffic at all. being the dumbass he was he started to bitch and yell right in my ear and i had asked why. he said he was yelling because he couldn't hear his own voice because of all the traffic..anyways he also said that he didn't like my "KIND" of ppl..i'm viet btw..he then came back and gave me a ticket for doing 130 because it was his "professional opinion" that that was the speeding i was actually going that speed...four guys in a maxima going around a bend like that @ 130 km/h would be downright stupid..i'm gonna fight this cause my neighbour is his boss cause he's a sargent in this region...wish me luck

Zapa

Fight it ... if I were you i'd look deeper into discrimination laws or whatevevr , and take him to court for saying what he said , and then , based on the fact that u're vietnamese , pumped up your speed ...

If you get to the right ppl you should have a very good change at ing him up , AND getting rid of the ticket

rabbitman

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I know that area really well since I live right there. You really have to watch that bend. They also love the area where it goes from 80 to 60 to 50 where the highway ends at King. They love to sit under that overpass. I always get off the highway there, and I make sure I'm only doing 60 there. Pisses everyone off behind me but em. I'm not getting a ticket. The other place you have to watch on the expressway is the bend heading north before brideport. They love to sit on the left side beside the guard rail, and you can't see them until it's too late. You probably got the same who pulled me over a few weeks ago. See the project erase thread. Fight it.

Zapa

but i wouldn't even worry about fighting the ticket ...

try to sue for discrimination at first ,that will also by default get rid of the ticket ... you will not want to discuss discrimination with a trafic judge .

I was in a housing court a few weeks ago , a tennant sued by his landlord was smart enough to put the landlord on the stand and make him lie , prooving that he lied . Then he asked the stupid judge to take actions required in this case ( i think the landlord was facing jail time ) , and the er refused .

You know it's like the difference from a cop that runs after heavy drug dealers and organised crime , and some fat giving tickets and eating doughuts

Nastyzed

descrimination my ***.Just because he said he dosent like you dosent mean he was being racist.People just use that as a tool to get off of faults in life.

cbridge_accord

well i never really said he was discriminating because of my race..he could of meant he didn't like me cause i'm a young guy who thinks he's invincible..don't really know what he meant but still it should have been said because its still discriminating against a group of people whatever it may be..

Zapa

This sounds very wierd ...

so he pulls you over tells u u were dooing 115 kmph
then he tells you he doesn't like your kind
then he gives you a ticket for 130 kmph ...

did he show you the radar ? ? did he even have it ?

regardless i think you have a good case of racist discrimination if you take him to court based on those 3 events in that order , and if you were indeed dooing less than 130 kmph ...

doesn't matter which "kind" he was talking about , he ed up by saying it and then bumping the speed ...

so this was next to kitchiner or what ... how's the asian density there , if it's white truck drivers only you might have an extra white ball on your case .

Nastyzed

kitchener is full of germans.The recent holocaust denier owned a radio store there and was just deported (ernst zundel).On hitlers b-day the news showed a apartment with a huge **** flag flapping from the balcony.There is a high activity of white supremists there.Not as much as london ontario tho.

mazdubber

I actually found a street named Swastika Trail around Cambridge somewhere.

Moosexing

You should ask for a court date.

But in the meantime, go to the local OPP detachment that this officer works at and ask to speak to the administration Sgt or Staff Sergeant and ask for an investigation into the remarks made at roadside. This should be relatively quick (couple weeks). If an answer is provided about the officers actions/words that you accept then go forward to court. If NOT proceed to the OACCP site and ask for another investigation, if court date comes up, ask it to be adjourned due to the ongoing investigation.

Now back to other comments:
1) The officer does not have to show any readings etc from laser or radar at roadside. If it is a mobile radar unit, you probably can see it mounted on the dash anyway. A handheld, you would have seen the officer pointing it at you.
2) Sergeant is your neighbour, that makes a difference how? Any officer of any rank that interferes with ANY process of the judicial system can be charged under the Police Services Act "discredible conduct" and criminally "obstruct justice", sure the neighbour wouldn't put their neck out for a simple traffic ticket
3) Traffic collisions resulting in injuries and deaths are a lot higher as compared to any drug problems we have in Ontario. Sure drug users get all messed up and affect their lives, but drugs are taken by and individual person......as compared to anyone driving a motor vehicle and striking another person driving along with their families. I would rather police target more on traffic offences and target bad drivers that "think" they know how to drive. Most druggies only affect themselves or sometimes hurt one another anyway.

Just my 0.02

spawnr

Just comment on ^, I agree traffic laws needs to be enforced strongly, but speed traps is not the way to go. We need more blitz on drivers changing lanes without signalling, tailgating , cutting people off, etc. I personally don't believe speed traps gets rid of bad drivers. Speed traps are easy to enforce and get an easy conviction. At the end of the day, that's what law enforcement comes down too.

Zapa

How many doughnuts can you eat while sitting at a speed trap ?

How many doughnuts can you eat while cruising arround very aware of who's an idiot ?

Moosexing

Doughnuts at speed traps would be cheaper.....you can buy them by the dozen, which is better than individually priced.....

However, individually you can keep buying fresh ones off the shelf

RR-942

I see your logic. But targeting traffic should not be limited to speed traps. I would say that speed control should be less then 10% of traffic tickets. The rest should be lane changes, solid lane crossings, etc... Basically anything not involving sitting and waiting with radars or at the red lights.
1. It will teach drivers to obey rules and not just speed limits
2. Drivers will be more alert and obey rules if there is a cop driving around.

Moosexing

I AGREE a well balanced enforcement of traffic is a lot better.

I guess the biggest case in point would be traffic in the GTA.....how many drivers follow at proper distance? and speed? 5% or less

To free congestion on the 400 series hwys, put the chevrons back in place to stay apart, now if everyone would stay at the speed limit, they could all maintain the distance and any users merging into traffic (accelerated to match the speed) would have ample room to merge. But none of this will ever happen.