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Old 02-03-2005, 05:18 AM
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Hi,

I come from Europe and I'm a new member on your forum.

I hope you've got time for a few questions about V8 Camaro '87:


I must explain some details for you to get the whole picture. I write on this forum on behalf of my boyfriend, who's got a few problems with English language

So far he's been working on european Ford Capri (for the last 10 years). Here are some pictures of his work, I hope you like it:
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap1.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap2.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap3.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap4.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap5.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap6.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap7.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap8.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap9.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap10.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap11.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cap12.jpg

Now he's decided to move on on a new project - Chevrolet Camaro. He bought '87with 5.0 V8 carburated engine and 5-speed manual trans.
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cam1.jpg
- http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/cam2.jpg
Because this engine is in quite poor shape, he intends to buy and import from USA to Europe whole new engine. Curently he is making a list of necessery parts, that he has to order. He doesn't have much experience with such engines, so he's got a few problems completing that list. That's why we turned to you guys. He wishes to make a complete list of parts, so that he can order them in one piece (which takes 5 weeks to arrive to EU) with no need to order again.. So here's the problem - there are some pieces and parts, that he doesn't know what they are for, what is their purpouse, does he really need them... There are very few people in our country with such knowledge that you guys have. Furthermore, he's heaving problems with choosing some known parts from his catalog.. I hope you understand his situation and If you are so kind to give him some answers. Any opinion and advice is welcome.

So here we go - his list of parts:

- 388 Stroker Chevy SB specialty kit (PAW catalog, page 64) long block kit : picture: http://www.zupdesign.com/camaroforum/PAW_narocilo.jpg
->which are better, flat top pistons or dished style pistons?
->which heads are more suitable - 76cc or 64cc?

-Summit 7-quart Oil Pan -> does dipstick come with the packege or do I have to order it?

-Headers: I would like "full length" headers, but there are only "Shorty-style" in catalogs.. Why is that so? My exhaust sistem wil be custom made, so the only thing that's important about headers is that they do not interfere with power-steering or chasis... There will be no catalytic converter in this sistem. Would these be suitable: http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...t=big-11100flt ?

- Edelbrock Performer RPM intake manifold + cam kit

- Holley 650 CFM double pumper

- Holley Blue Electric Fuel Pump + regulator kit

- Summit Chrome plated, full size, Offset Starter for Chevy (anything to be careful about when ordering?)

- Alternator Magnum 80 amp (What does "With Billet Bracket" stand for - what does it mean)

- water pump (what is the difference between short style and long style pump) (anything speceific here?)

- TH 400 transmission (used, not new - bought through yellow pages and used parts catalog. What are approximate prices in your used parts catalogs?

- B&M SuperCooler kit for transmission oil

- Derale Engine Oil Cooler Kit

- K&N performace Gold oil filter

- ARP engine bolt kit - (http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...t=arp-534-9601) Are there any screews needed?

- MR Gasket Quick-Change Timing cover kit

- Valve covers + Wing Nuts + Breather (how many do I need - one or two?)

- Summit Harmonic Damper - Question: How essential is this part for engine's performance? Is there a major difference between OEM Harmonic damper and other more expensive options. What is the difference between "internal balance damper" and "external balance damper"?

- shifter - Which do you recommend? Would it be OK if I installed a used one from original camaro configuration?

-roll-cage


Is that everything I need, am I forgeting anything?

Thank you for your patience reading this essay, but I really need help. If I don't get it from you guys, I'm gonna need something more professional. Mental institution would be nice
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Wow, makes me wish i knew something about engines here. I would love to help you. I do know of a mental institution though if worse comes to worse.
Welcome to the board nonetheless. I'm sure you can find help here just be pacient with us. By the way, the last pic of the Capri, which one of the girls is you? Just curious.
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Originally Posted by MeenZ28
Wow, makes me wish i knew something about engines here. I would love to help you.
Why are you in this forum then?

Anyway, that kit from PAW will work for him. He will want to get the 64cc heads and the flat top pistons. It is a toss up between dished pistons and flat tops. The Flat top pistons allow better flame travel and a more evenly dispursed flame front. However, If you can achieve a good compression ratio with dished pistons, go with a dish piston. This is because the dish piston has a greater surface area because of the "Dish." Since it has more surface area and has the "dish" it has the ability to take more of the compression force and make more power. But unless the compression ratio will be above 10:1, stay with the flat top pistions.

The 64cc would be more suitable because it will allow a higher compression ratio and better power and torque at lower engine speeds. You would not make as much power with 64 cc heads as a 74cc heads though. But it looks like that kit was not made to be a high RPM motor, so stay with the 64cc.

Hooker and Hedman both make long tube headers for the 82-92 F-bodys. I have the Hooker Long Tubes in my Camaro. I will try to get a part number. They are Hooker super competitions though.

Dip stick is not included.

You want a long nose water pump. The cars came with a "Long Nose" water pump. They say long nose because the pulley on the water pump is stuck out further, hence a "Long nose."

You should also get a high torque mini starter.

The stock alternator is 100 amps, so a stock replacement would be sufficient.

I am tired of typing now so I will be back later.
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Why are you in this forum then?

Because maybe he wants to learn? Jeez.



With all the knowledgeable people here, I'm sure you'll get lots of help, and lots of good answers. Wish I could also be of more assistance. Also, welcome to ProjectCamaro!
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I would suggest checking at nastyz28.com they are second gen specific, but have many european members that may know of an easy way to do what you need, the parts you specify are good, but maybe shipping could kill the deal
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