RFF

Yeah I know I'm being cheap but I'm not dropping 1K plus just for some Kooks type headers. I decided to go between these two headers for several reasons, one of course being price and the other being ground clearance. The Pacesetter sit a little lower then the Macs but I have heard they are more forgiving when it comes to ground clearance when compared to Hooker Headers. Shortys are out of the question because the gains are so small, the Macs don't offer the performance of LT's but they come very close. Price wise the Pacestters cost an extra 150+ with the Y-Pipe. Which header would you go with?

NoRiceInside

well i dont think the mac LTs come with a y-pipe...so since the pacesetters have it with the LTs...go for pacesetters.

by the way, do the pacesetter LTs have emissions hook ups and does the y-pipe work with the stock cat?

NoRiceInside

actually i dont think any LTs have y-pipes...these dont have one but they do have egr and air hookups...yay for cali peeps:



http://store.summitracing.com/partde...1&autoview=sku

god **** those are gorgeous...i need my LT1 now!!!!!!!!!

but yeah heres the pacesetter y-pipe...looks like the cat wont be able to fit in with this thing on:



http://store.summitracing.com/partde...4&autoview=sku

RFF

Why would LT's have no Y pipe? Oh and BTW I wouldn't buy those headers from summit, way over priced.

RFF

The Macs come with a Y-Pipe.

NoRiceInside

yeah i saw those but those arent LTs...theyre shorties

RFF

Their actually called mid length headers, MAC doesn't make a shorty for the LT1's.

archemedes

I'd say do the mid length since the gain is similar and a lower price (long tubes hurt the power band anyway that's why you don't see a graph with them just peak power)

RFF

Very interesting point Arch, I remember people on other boards always saying that the LT's give you more power up top when the ST and MT's fall on their face. I'm taking it that LT's basically shift the power band to the upper RPM range correct?

SLPowerZ

i like lts personally but i've heard alot of good stuff about mid lengths toos

RFF

Once you tack in shipping (macs cost a lot to ship for some reason) the Pacesetters cost about $100, however I'm not getting good feed back on the pacesetters for ground clearance it seems they might be just as bad as the hookers.

RFF

Ok the pacesetter come cermanic coated while the Macs come HTS coated, what is the difference?

archemedes

that's what I've always been told, not sure the difference in coatings