V6 Project car in need of some advice
09-25-2006, 04:48 PM
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I think you missed Viper's point. He is saying he could build a 400hp motor for about $5k, but it would blow up very easily.
You could put a 200 shot of nitrous on it for about $600, that'll give you 400hp, but its going to be a ticking time bomb. Same idea as what Viper said. Sure you can do it, but it wont last.
You could put a 200 shot of nitrous on it for about $600, that'll give you 400hp, but its going to be a ticking time bomb. Same idea as what Viper said. Sure you can do it, but it wont last.
09-25-2006, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Shodown
I think you missed Viper's point. He is saying he could build a 400hp motor for about $5k, but it would blow up very easily.
You could put a 200 shot of nitrous on it for about $600, that'll give you 400hp, but its going to be a ticking time bomb. Same idea as what Viper said. Sure you can do it, but it wont last.
You could put a 200 shot of nitrous on it for about $600, that'll give you 400hp, but its going to be a ticking time bomb. Same idea as what Viper said. Sure you can do it, but it wont last.
but the rear and tranny would roast (auto would be fine but the M5 will kill 3rd gear) rear will go with time
FFH turbo kit like mine
~$4000-4500
Walbro fuel pump ~100
65# injecotrs ~400 (or FMU to stay under 5K)
HP TUNERS ~$500
thats 400+ hp at the motor....... but your car will be slow......
09-25-2006, 07:07 PM
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Yeah- Viper is right- making the power can be done for under the 5K, but thats just the start of it.
Stock suspension all you are going to get is wheelspin if you are lucky, more than likely a bunch of tire-hop. So now you are looking at least another $500 to fix the rear suspension. So now you have the tires hooking up- guess whats next? Rear-end and tranny/clutch. Figure at least 2K for a rear-end you won't break with that power. Another $400 for a clutch, and at least another grand to beef the tran to hold the power.
So just a quick est. and you have another 3K in suspension/drivetrain to be able to use your new found power to its potential. Trust me I know- having 400+hp is useless if you can't plant it...
Stock suspension all you are going to get is wheelspin if you are lucky, more than likely a bunch of tire-hop. So now you are looking at least another $500 to fix the rear suspension. So now you have the tires hooking up- guess whats next? Rear-end and tranny/clutch. Figure at least 2K for a rear-end you won't break with that power. Another $400 for a clutch, and at least another grand to beef the tran to hold the power.
So just a quick est. and you have another 3K in suspension/drivetrain to be able to use your new found power to its potential. Trust me I know- having 400+hp is useless if you can't plant it...
09-25-2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
Yeah- Viper is right- making the power can be done for under the 5K, but thats just the start of it.
Stock suspension all you are going to get is wheelspin if you are lucky, more than likely a bunch of tire-hop. So now you are looking at least another $500 to fix the rear suspension. So now you have the tires hooking up- guess whats next? Rear-end and tranny/clutch. Figure at least 2K for a rear-end you won't break with that power. Another $400 for a clutch, and at least another grand to beef the tran to hold the power.
So just a quick est. and you have another 3K in suspension/drivetrain to be able to use your new found power to its potential. Trust me I know- having 400+hp is useless if you can't plant it...
Stock suspension all you are going to get is wheelspin if you are lucky, more than likely a bunch of tire-hop. So now you are looking at least another $500 to fix the rear suspension. So now you have the tires hooking up- guess whats next? Rear-end and tranny/clutch. Figure at least 2K for a rear-end you won't break with that power. Another $400 for a clutch, and at least another grand to beef the tran to hold the power.
So just a quick est. and you have another 3K in suspension/drivetrain to be able to use your new found power to its potential. Trust me I know- having 400+hp is useless if you can't plant it...
09-26-2006, 10:53 AM
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Ohhh okay I see now. Thats wassup. So basically I need to build the car first, before I start hooking up the engine to that high level. Plus I would need to get a all new transmission that can handle that much power, huh. I was online & I saw Chassis & Suspension upgrades by UMI Performance which reduces weight as well. Thanks alot u all, if it wasnt for this info, my chevy would of been obsolete lol. Hey Im new to the race customize game, so dont be suprise if I ask dumb questions lol. But I do know a good amount about performance. I watch horsepower TV yall 
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Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
Yeah- Viper is right- making the power can be done for under the 5K, but thats just the start of it.
Stock suspension all you are going to get is wheelspin if you are lucky, more than likely a bunch of tire-hop. So now you are looking at least another $500 to fix the rear suspension. So now you have the tires hooking up- guess whats next? Rear-end and tranny/clutch. Figure at least 2K for a rear-end you won't break with that power. Another $400 for a clutch, and at least another grand to beef the tran to hold the power.
So just a quick est. and you have another 3K in suspension/drivetrain to be able to use your new found power to its potential. Trust me I know- having 400+hp is useless if you can't plant it...
Stock suspension all you are going to get is wheelspin if you are lucky, more than likely a bunch of tire-hop. So now you are looking at least another $500 to fix the rear suspension. So now you have the tires hooking up- guess whats next? Rear-end and tranny/clutch. Figure at least 2K for a rear-end you won't break with that power. Another $400 for a clutch, and at least another grand to beef the tran to hold the power.
So just a quick est. and you have another 3K in suspension/drivetrain to be able to use your new found power to its potential. Trust me I know- having 400+hp is useless if you can't plant it...
09-26-2006, 04:37 PM
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ive been doing research for years on how to get some real power into my 3.8 and its an insane amount of work and with me the problem isnt doing the work but getting the money to buy the parts its just really really involved thats why i plan on swaping with a Ls1 when i get the money and still even that takes more work than most think
09-26-2006, 05:35 PM
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Well, personally, I like having a v6. Im in an all f-body car club, and out of 60+ cars, one of 3 v6's, people are more interested in what I do to my car, than they are to the typical v8, because its new, most of it hasnt been seen before. I get asked all the time why I would do so much to a v6, but I just say "Because its different, and when I run your v8, if I win, you'll never live it down 
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And btw, 2000v6cam, good luck with the swap. When I spun a rod bearing, I had an ls1 with harness, tranny, everything ready to swap in. I looked at the amount of fabrication involved... it will blow your mind. I'd rather sell the 6 and buy an 8 than go through that trouble, but of course i'll never sell the 6'r.
".And btw, 2000v6cam, good luck with the swap. When I spun a rod bearing, I had an ls1 with harness, tranny, everything ready to swap in. I looked at the amount of fabrication involved... it will blow your mind. I'd rather sell the 6 and buy an 8 than go through that trouble, but of course i'll never sell the 6'r.
09-26-2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Phate
Well, personally, I like having a v6. Im in an all f-body car club, and out of 60+ cars, one of 3 v6's, people are more interested in what I do to my car, than they are to the typical v8, because its new, most of it hasnt been seen before. I get asked all the time why I would do so much to a v6, but I just say "Because its different, and when I run your v8, if I win, you'll never live it down ".
And btw, 2000v6cam, good luck with the swap. When I spun a rod bearing, I had an ls1 with harness, tranny, everything ready to swap in. I looked at the amount of fabrication involved... it will blow your mind. I'd rather sell the 6 and buy an 8 than go through that trouble, but of course i'll never sell the 6'r.
".And btw, 2000v6cam, good luck with the swap. When I spun a rod bearing, I had an ls1 with harness, tranny, everything ready to swap in. I looked at the amount of fabrication involved... it will blow your mind. I'd rather sell the 6 and buy an 8 than go through that trouble, but of course i'll never sell the 6'r.
09-26-2006, 08:28 PM
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I haven't done a swap, but I do know someone who did and it wasn't that bad for him. He did it in a 95 so it wasn't OBDII, other than a couple harness issues it was pretty straightforward.
I will admit that the power that guys are gettin our of the 3.8 are impressive, but I'm a V8 at heart. You can put all the boost and juice to a 3800 motor, but you can't beat the V8 growl.
I will admit that the power that guys are gettin our of the 3.8 are impressive, but I'm a V8 at heart. You can put all the boost and juice to a 3800 motor, but you can't beat the V8 growl.
09-26-2006, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
I haven't done a swap, but I do know someone who did and it wasn't that bad for him. He did it in a 95 so it wasn't OBDII, other than a couple harness issues it was pretty straightforward.
I will admit that the power that guys are gettin our of the 3.8 are impressive, but I'm a V8 at heart. You can put all the boost and juice to a 3800 motor, but you can't beat the V8 growl.
I will admit that the power that guys are gettin our of the 3.8 are impressive, but I'm a V8 at heart. You can put all the boost and juice to a 3800 motor, but you can't beat the V8 growl.
do i win?
