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08-18-2005, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by voltar
An LT4 is a slightly refined and improved LT1 which appeared in 1996 and was put into corvettes and very few F-bodies. It was a slightly more powerful on the top end.
as for the LS1..ALL 01 and 02 f-bodies recieved LS6 blocks and Intake Manifolds....heads r not the same nor is the cam....98 being the odd ball LS1 it had bigger injectors than all the other years and on a well tuned one will handle a 200dry shot of nitrous all day long....
The Gen III SBC's r technical marvels...
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08-18-2005, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
LT4's r quite a bit more powerful actually...they made 345HP stock...
as for the LS1..ALL 01 and 02 f-bodies recieved LS6 blocks and Intake Manifolds....heads r not the same nor is the cam....98 being the odd ball LS1 it had bigger injectors than all the other years and on a well tuned one will handle a 200dry shot of nitrous all day long....
The Gen III SBC's r technical marvels...
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as for the LS1..ALL 01 and 02 f-bodies recieved LS6 blocks and Intake Manifolds....heads r not the same nor is the cam....98 being the odd ball LS1 it had bigger injectors than all the other years and on a well tuned one will handle a 200dry shot of nitrous all day long....
The Gen III SBC's r technical marvels...
-Jay
So is there a big difference between the LS1 and the LT4 ? or are they similar?
08-18-2005, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by brianb
So is there a big difference between the LS1 and the LT4 ? or are they similar?
the only things they have in common is there both fuel injected pushrod'd small block chevy V8's...of different generations though..
the allmighty SBC is Generation 1, the LT1/LT4 is Generation 2, and the LS1/LS2/LS6/LS7 is Generation 3...
The LS1 is 346Cu. inches, is ALL ALUMINUM and has a bore design on a small block...all geberation III small blocks are completely interchangeable...
from the all iron 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0L's used in other trucks and SUV's etc...every part is swappable..
wanna make a REAL strong monster?? grab a 6.0L block (which just about ALL of them came with LS6 heads!! and just swap the cam and put the LS6 intake on it, and uve got close to 500HP just using stock parts...)
Anyways...ya..
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08-18-2005, 03:29 PM
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Dude your way off only like 25% of 02 received the LS6 block, even less in 01.
All 01-02 came with LS6 intake.
Also not to be argumentative but I thought LS2/LS7 were officially Gen IV ??
All 01-02 came with LS6 intake.
Also not to be argumentative but I thought LS2/LS7 were officially Gen IV ??
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08-19-2005, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
Completely different...
the only things they have in common is there both fuel injected pushrod'd small block chevy V8's...of different generations though..
the allmighty SBC is Generation 1, the LT1/LT4 is Generation 2, and the LS1/LS2/LS6/LS7 is Generation 3...
The LS1 is 346Cu. inches, is ALL ALUMINUM and has a bore design on a small block...all geberation III small blocks are completely interchangeable...
from the all iron 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0L's used in other trucks and SUV's etc...every part is swappable..
wanna make a REAL strong monster?? grab a 6.0L block (which just about ALL of them came with LS6 heads!! and just swap the cam and put the LS6 intake on it, and uve got close to 500HP just using stock parts...)
Anyways...ya..
anything else u wanna know just ask...
-Jay
the only things they have in common is there both fuel injected pushrod'd small block chevy V8's...of different generations though..
the allmighty SBC is Generation 1, the LT1/LT4 is Generation 2, and the LS1/LS2/LS6/LS7 is Generation 3...
The LS1 is 346Cu. inches, is ALL ALUMINUM and has a bore design on a small block...all geberation III small blocks are completely interchangeable...
from the all iron 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0L's used in other trucks and SUV's etc...every part is swappable..
wanna make a REAL strong monster?? grab a 6.0L block (which just about ALL of them came with LS6 heads!! and just swap the cam and put the LS6 intake on it, and uve got close to 500HP just using stock parts...)
Anyways...ya..
anything else u wanna know just ask...
-Jay
08-19-2005, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by voltar
Dude your way off only like 25% of 02 received the LS6 block, even less in 01.
All 01-02 came with LS6 intake.
Also not to be argumentative but I thought LS2/LS7 were officially Gen IV ??
All 01-02 came with LS6 intake.
Also not to be argumentative but I thought LS2/LS7 were officially Gen IV ??
and the ls2/ls7 r not gen IV...as parts r interchangeable between the LS1 and LS2 and LS6 and LS7 still...same design....but i guess u could say there more like an unofficial Gen IV SBC...just a revised/updated version....
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08-19-2005, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
im not way off....maybe not ALL but a good portion of them did...go check it out on www.ls1tech.com...
and the ls2/ls7 r not gen IV...as parts r interchangeable between the LS1 and LS2 and LS6 and LS7 still...same design....but i guess u could say there more like an unofficial Gen IV SBC...just a revised/updated version....
-Jay
and the ls2/ls7 r not gen IV...as parts r interchangeable between the LS1 and LS2 and LS6 and LS7 still...same design....but i guess u could say there more like an unofficial Gen IV SBC...just a revised/updated version....
-Jay
I really hate to disapoint you both, but its still a small block 350 engine. Call it what you want, but you can still swap any parts onto this engine.Wake up and smell the coffee. The power it makes has more to do with engine management . They used this motor in the Buick roadmaster, the differences was, the ECM, cam and fuel injectors. you can take all that other crap and throw it on a block from 1968 and vise versa. If you also check back in the 60', they did have an aluminium block in the corvettes.
08-19-2005, 04:29 PM
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1. A small percentage of 2001 and 2002 LS1s actually had LS6 blocks which had a different part number and a darker metal cast
1. A small percentage of 2001 and 2002 LS1s actually had LS6 blocks which had a different part number and a darker metal cast
15% of 01s and 25% of 02's got the LS6 Block.
I took your advice dude :-)
08-21-2005, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by voltar
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpo...80&postcount=2
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpo...86&postcount=8
I took your advice dude :-)
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpo...86&postcount=8
I took your advice dude :-)
Originally Posted by Strokerace
I really hate to disapoint you both, but its still a small block 350 engine. Call it what you want, but you can still swap any parts onto this engine.Wake up and smell the coffee. The power it makes has more to do with engine management . They used this motor in the Buick roadmaster, the differences was, the ECM, cam and fuel injectors. you can take all that other crap and throw it on a block from 1968 and vise versa. If you also check back in the 60', they did have an aluminium block in the corvettes.
If you really think an LS1 or Gen 3 small block chevy is for one a 350 and for 2 interchangable in any way with any other SBC in ANYYYY way give ur head a shake, do sum reasearch and than retract ur statement...
1) The LS1 is the engine suffix code for the 346 Cu. 5.7L All Aluminum Generation III Small Block Chevy, found in ONLY 1997 - 2004 non Z06 Corvette's and 1998 - 2002 Camaro Z28/SS's & Formula Firebirds/Trans-Am's/Trans-Am WS6's
2) The Generation III SBC including the all aluminum LS1 is the latest and greatest push-rod V8 ever produced, PERIOD.
3) The Gen. III's SBC shares NOTHING in common with ANY other small block chevy other than the fact that its of a push-rod design. Gen. II (LT1/LT4) DOES share things with the first generation of small block chevy's...same Cubes/displacement, its the same blocks really, but the heads are different design and as far as i know they r reverse cooling flow and different intake setup and e-managemebt compared to Gen. I say the ever so popular L98 TPI.
Here's some good reading for u......
If u wanna doubt the credibility check out the webaddress
That not only includes the LS1 but the new LS2 aswell..which is a revised Gen. III that GM calls a Gen. IV...Read it, dont think u already know everything there is to know man...i still cant believe u think the LS1 is the same since the original 350...
Infact technically speaking the LS1 is a 5.6L engine but SOLEY for marketing reasons they displayed it as a 5.7L and in the small fine print ull see a 346Cu. figure...therefore its not a 350...
a 350 is a 4.000" Bore with a 3.480" Stroke....thats Gen I & II...
LS1 is 3.900" Bore and 3.620" Stroke i believe....as for the aluminum corvette small blocks...yes, im very aware they existed...there still built off the original design though...
GM took there knowledge of V8's and wanted to make a more powerful, lighter, even MORE reliable, much improved gas mileage and a HUGE improvement in emissions with the Generation III SBC Design...and they did that and passed with FLYING colours...
There u go...I really do hope u read that article...or anyone else who never knew this stuff too for that matter...
-Jay
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10-30-2005, 10:05 AM
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This is 2 mondokyle or monkeycrap or monkeywithnobrain or whatever u want 2 call urself i drive an 89 mustang 5.oL and i think ur manking all of us v8 drivers look bad.
I think the only reason u take plublic transportation is because u can't afford a car.
And the only reason u bought a $5000 computer is because ur a nerd and sit around that computer all day long jerkingoff 2 it.
So do us all v8 drivers a favour and until u buy a car don't post up anymore stupid comments u loser.
I think the only reason u take plublic transportation is because u can't afford a car.
And the only reason u bought a $5000 computer is because ur a nerd and sit around that computer all day long jerkingoff 2 it.
So do us all v8 drivers a favour and until u buy a car don't post up anymore stupid comments u loser.
10-30-2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sandbager2
This is 2 mondokyle or monkeycrap or monkeywithnobrain or whatever u want 2 call urself i drive an 89 mustang 5.oL and i think ur manking all of us v8 drivers look bad.
I think the only reason u take plublic transportation is because u can't afford a car.
And the only reason u bought a $5000 computer is because ur a nerd and sit around that computer all day long jerkingoff 2 it.
So do us all v8 drivers a favour and until u buy a car don't post up anymore stupid comments u loser.
I think the only reason u take plublic transportation is because u can't afford a car.
And the only reason u bought a $5000 computer is because ur a nerd and sit around that computer all day long jerkingoff 2 it.
So do us all v8 drivers a favour and until u buy a car don't post up anymore stupid comments u loser.
11-01-2005, 12:22 AM
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you don't even drive what the are you doing on this website you summet parts ordering mullet wearing ***
11-01-2005, 10:26 PM
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I'm putting up with sucking **** like u who don't know when 2 mind their business u
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Originally Posted by mondokyle
Why buy a $5000 pc? because I can. I could buy a $2000 computer.. but I have the money to spend.. I can afford to drop 2x$1300
11-13-2005, 11:16 PM
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get a life
I can't believe you guys are arguing over this stupid stuff. There are 3 types of people on this board. Mullet boy rednecks, Vin Diesel ricers and normal people who like all cars. The first two groups need to get a life and a girlfriend get laid and stop arguing over this stuff.