Challenger set to hit the streets in 2007-08'!!
01-08-2006, 04:41 PM
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Challenger set to hit the streets in 2007-08'!!
http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html
Looks like the decade of rice may come to an end... yeah!
01-08-2006, 05:23 PM
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Decades of rice may come to an end? Don't be a dummy. It's more like "decades of domestic automakers being pussies and producing low performance cars" coming to an end. It's not the Japanese automakers fault that they had the ***** to produce "rice". And by rice, do you mean the Supra Turbo (capable of making 1000hp on a stock block), the FD RX7, the 300ZX, 3000GT, etc?
It's a shame that all domestic fan boys care about is 1/4 mile times, or else you'd be disappointed when this new Challenger still can't top the skidpad, braking, slalom, etc performance figures of those 10+ year old "rice" cars.
Is it just me or has there been a substantial increase in ignorant domestic owners over the last few days...
It's a shame that all domestic fan boys care about is 1/4 mile times, or else you'd be disappointed when this new Challenger still can't top the skidpad, braking, slalom, etc performance figures of those 10+ year old "rice" cars.
Is it just me or has there been a substantial increase in ignorant domestic owners over the last few days...
01-08-2006, 07:46 PM
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well, the big three are making some nice cars lately (among a bunch of really shitty ones), so i guess domestic owners may finally have something to be proud about.
that challanger does look pretty sick.
that challanger does look pretty sick.
01-08-2006, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by B6T
Decades of rice may come to an end? Don't be a dummy. It's more like "decades of domestic automakers being pussies and producing low performance cars" coming to an end. It's not the Japanese automakers fault that they had the ***** to produce "rice". And by rice, do you mean the Supra Turbo (capable of making 1000hp on a stock block), the FD RX7, the 300ZX, 3000GT, etc?
It's a shame that all domestic fan boys care about is 1/4 mile times, or else you'd be disappointed when this new Challenger still can't top the skidpad, braking, slalom, etc performance figures of those 10+ year old "rice" cars.
Is it just me or has there been a substantial increase in ignorant domestic owners over the last few days...
It's a shame that all domestic fan boys care about is 1/4 mile times, or else you'd be disappointed when this new Challenger still can't top the skidpad, braking, slalom, etc performance figures of those 10+ year old "rice" cars.
Is it just me or has there been a substantial increase in ignorant domestic owners over the last few days...
japan had been putting out low powered cars for the last 30 years whats your point? your average honda rolls out a 19sec 1/4 mile.. a v6 grand am GT pulls high 15s... You saying a SBC cant produce 1000hp on a stock block? think again .. RX7????? don't make me laugh the dead end design of rotary..oh wow so much exitement to rave about.. Theres performace out there and the japanese market isint the place to start.
01-09-2006, 03:53 PM
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Wow... a Pontiac Grand Am GT can pull a high 15 stock. That's pathetic, considering thats supposed to be a performance car. Isn't Pontiac GM's performace oriented brand? As with most domestics of that era, it's 1/4 mile time is usually its best aspect of its performance... we all know how amazing a Grand Am must handle and brake... haha. Imagine how well the car would perform on a *gasp* race track with turns! But then again, who cares about other areas of performance when you're an ignorant domestic driver, right?
Do you have anything to back up your claim of a Honda's average 1/4 mile time being 19 seconds, or is that just something you made up because you have no other way of proving your point?
Funny how those low powered Japanese cars still pull better times then most high powered GM vehicles. Take the turbo Supra for example... ran low 13's with only ~300hp. Did you ever think that the reason Japanese cars don't make that much power is because the engineers focused on the car as a whole and spent some time developing the chassis, not just what's under the hood... as what seems to be the trend with American auto makers?
And please, I'd LOVE to hear what your genius self has to say about the rotary engine. Let me guess... apex seals, overheating, bad gas milage, right?
Do you have anything to back up your claim of a Honda's average 1/4 mile time being 19 seconds, or is that just something you made up because you have no other way of proving your point?
Funny how those low powered Japanese cars still pull better times then most high powered GM vehicles. Take the turbo Supra for example... ran low 13's with only ~300hp. Did you ever think that the reason Japanese cars don't make that much power is because the engineers focused on the car as a whole and spent some time developing the chassis, not just what's under the hood... as what seems to be the trend with American auto makers?
And please, I'd LOVE to hear what your genius self has to say about the rotary engine. Let me guess... apex seals, overheating, bad gas milage, right?
01-09-2006, 04:34 PM
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not bad at all 
01-09-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by B6T
Wow... a Pontiac Grand Am GT can pull a high 15 stock. That's pathetic, considering thats supposed to be a performance car. Isn't Pontiac GM's performace oriented brand? As with most domestics of that era ?
hahahahah pontiac was never gm's performace car of that era .....what were the chevelles novas camaros those were the GM performance of that era sure pontiac had the gto but that was never a throughbred
lets see a street honda like this
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....D0275DC7D8&p=0
01-09-2006, 08:57 PM
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^ What the hell are you talking about man? Was the Grand Am GT around when the Chevelle, Nova, and Camaro was in production? Did you even read what I wrote? Are you high?
I'm not saying that domestics are slow. Did I say anywhere that they were slow? You're just further proving my point that the only thing that the majority of domestic owners seem to care about is 1/4 mile times... not a cars performance as a whole, which is what Japanese sports cars manufacturers care about.
Lets see a street domestic 2.6L do this:
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....8FE5&kw=11&p=0
I'm not saying that domestics are slow. Did I say anywhere that they were slow? You're just further proving my point that the only thing that the majority of domestic owners seem to care about is 1/4 mile times... not a cars performance as a whole, which is what Japanese sports cars manufacturers care about.
Lets see a street domestic 2.6L do this:
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....8FE5&kw=11&p=0
01-09-2006, 09:56 PM
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Oh here we go again import owners and there dyno sheets..
"whats a 800hp supra and a 1200hp supra have in common? they both run 12s.."
The grand am is not a performace car. You should probibly compare the tubro supra to 4th gen f-body. Which is more reliable ,requires less maintence and runs 13s bone stock N/A. Probibly gets better gas mileage too.
A quick example of a domestic tuner car is the Grand national/GNX.. has the darth vader look ,seats 5 without any complaints. Gets over 20mpg can run 11s with less then 2k in mods. Also packing the 3.8l one of the best built engines on the planet.
GM was also quite innovative in the past. Making some of the first all aluminum engines as well as others to boot
Quad 4 H.O 2.2 180hp (with a decent aftermarket headgasket this engine is killer)
3.4 DOHC factory detuned from 275hp to 210. A great motor with a few flaws such as leaking o ring seal which reqire the heads to be pulled to change.
N* need i say more?
Bash domestics all you want but what has japan mass produced in the last 15 years that was so much better? Not includeing interior quality...
"whats a 800hp supra and a 1200hp supra have in common? they both run 12s.."
The grand am is not a performace car. You should probibly compare the tubro supra to 4th gen f-body. Which is more reliable ,requires less maintence and runs 13s bone stock N/A. Probibly gets better gas mileage too.
A quick example of a domestic tuner car is the Grand national/GNX.. has the darth vader look ,seats 5 without any complaints. Gets over 20mpg can run 11s with less then 2k in mods. Also packing the 3.8l one of the best built engines on the planet.
GM was also quite innovative in the past. Making some of the first all aluminum engines as well as others to boot
Quad 4 H.O 2.2 180hp (with a decent aftermarket headgasket this engine is killer)
3.4 DOHC factory detuned from 275hp to 210. A great motor with a few flaws such as leaking o ring seal which reqire the heads to be pulled to change.
N* need i say more?
Bash domestics all you want but what has japan mass produced in the last 15 years that was so much better? Not includeing interior quality...
01-10-2006, 01:43 PM
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Grand ams are a 3.5 altima will destroy it. has anyone else noticed how all imports are producing much more torque now and are actually ahead of domestics in some catagories. I cant wait to see imports put diesels in there trucks.
01-10-2006, 02:14 PM
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I like DCX products, but that is ugly
01-10-2006, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by the vanilla gorilla
Grand ams are a 3.5 altima will destroy it. has anyone else noticed how all imports are producing much more torque now and are actually ahead of domestics in some catagories. I cant wait to see imports put diesels in there trucks.
really??
1993 Nissan Altima SE 8.2 16.4
1993 Nissan Altima GXE (auto) 9.6 17.2
1994 Nissan Altima GXE 9.4 16.9
1998 Nissan Altima 8.2 16.4
1990 Pontiac Grand Am Quad 4 7.3 15.8
1992 Pontiac Grand Am GT 7.5 15.9
1994 Pontiac Grand Am SE 11.5 18.2
1996 Pontiac Grand Am SE 8.6 16.5
1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT 7.7 15.9
stop talking smack and go park daddies nissan back in the garage.
01-11-2006, 01:29 AM
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He said the 3.5L Altima you illiterate retard. And he's right. Taken from the Car and Driver website:
"Our five-speed SE test car hit 60 mph in 6.3 seconds, a full second quicker than the automatic, and gobbled up the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 96 mph." They then go on to say: "More recently (November 1998), an SLP Pontiac Grand Prix GTX Ram Air (260 horsepower, 295 pound-feet from a supercharged 3.8-liter pushrod V-6) hit those same marks in 6.7 seconds and 15.1 seconds at 93 mph"
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1859
Stupid slow jap cars, eh?
"Our five-speed SE test car hit 60 mph in 6.3 seconds, a full second quicker than the automatic, and gobbled up the quarter-mile in 14.8 seconds at 96 mph." They then go on to say: "More recently (November 1998), an SLP Pontiac Grand Prix GTX Ram Air (260 horsepower, 295 pound-feet from a supercharged 3.8-liter pushrod V-6) hit those same marks in 6.7 seconds and 15.1 seconds at 93 mph"
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1859
Stupid slow jap cars, eh?
01-11-2006, 09:01 AM
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Okay it's the big bad NastyZed again. Are you insecure about your car? Why is it that everytime there is someone bashing imports or arguing if imports are better or domestics, I see your name. Just a typical ignorant thing I would expect from you. It's the internet, why must you argue with anyone and justify to them that what you drive isn't a piece of . Ohhhh I get it must make you ***** feel a bit larger. 
01-11-2006, 07:03 PM
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I dont drive a grand am LOL... used it as an example.. Oh here we gow ith car and driver reports..
Funny how car craft ( a major un biased magazine) ticked off a 14.9 et with a 1997 grand prix gtp and a 6.6 sec 0-60..B6T you want to talk about slow jap cars lets start off with what you drive in stock condition LMFAO.
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Funny how car craft ( a major un biased magazine) ticked off a 14.9 et with a 1997 grand prix gtp and a 6.6 sec 0-60..B6T you want to talk about slow jap cars lets start off with what you drive in stock condition LMFAO.
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