Take it to the Track! Vette crash on 427
06-19-2006, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
And the drivers of the other two Corvettes involved are now looking at upgraded criminal charges in relation to that death, as well as having had their two Corvettes seized by police.
i wonder if the police have decided to try and find the guy who threw his garbage onto a busy hwy and caused a crash!
06-19-2006, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 6Msentra
i wonder if the police have decided to try and find the guy who threw his garbage onto a busy hwy and caused a crash!
06-20-2006, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
And the drivers of the other two Corvettes involved are now looking at upgraded criminal charges in relation to that death, as well as having had their two Corvettes seized by police.
06-20-2006, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by B6T
Since they are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, shouldn't they be allowed to keep their cars until they are found to be guilty of the charge?
Would you give a burglar his B&E tools back while waiting for his trial to render a verdict?
06-20-2006, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
Costs money to disassemble a car if you want to reuse the parts. Administrative costs involved in cataloging, listing, selling, collecting and disbursing teh proceeds could be huge. Liability issues also arise from selling parts of unknown origin, unknown quality, unknown condition.
they manage to catalog, re-vin and sell off the cars at auctions of monitored audience...
06-20-2006, 12:47 AM
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No...
06-20-2006, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by B6T
Since they are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, shouldn't they be allowed to keep their cars until they are found to be guilty of the charge?
nope... the authorities have to feed something to the media in order to divert attention from those 17 that are on trial in bramladesh for you know what...
what I wanna know is, did the porsche and amg get seized from the crash a few weeks ago?
06-20-2006, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
Would you give a burglar his B&E tools back while waiting for his trial to render a verdict?
Won't they have all kinds of limitations, perhaps house arrest?
Comparing B&E tools to a car is comparing apples and oranges.
However, the vehicle should be allowed to be stored, maybe at the owners expense and if found innocent all costs should be directed to the Police.
Remember, Police also need policing now and then. They are also human and can make mistakes. . .You do realize a large garbage bag was found at the scene with tread marks all over it?
06-20-2006, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by snoopy
what I wanna know is, did the porsche and amg get seized from the crash a few weeks ago?
06-20-2006, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 1cam8valves
You do realize a large garbage bag was found at the scene with tread marks all over it?
Of course, a confession of racing by one of the participants always helps...
06-20-2006, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 1cam8valves
You do realize a large garbage bag was found at the scene with tread marks all over it?
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06-20-2006, 01:04 AM
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Now Victor, the reason why this happened is not because you were street racing, because you weren't, at least not by my definition. Street racing, in my eyes, is a carefully constructed race, done at night, with no passengers, in the middle of no where, typically a commercial or industrial area with 0 traffic, with little or no observers, spotters in place, an exact starting and stopping point and a sense of what is and isn't lunacy when it comes to how far I will take it. That is street racing.
You on the other hand....Let me break it down for you. You did it at a moments notice, in the middle of traffic, on a major road, with a tonne of people around, no one spotting, because hey you have no sense of where the race ends and of course you had passengers. All of which makes you a dumbshit.
So essentially you got what you deserved. Bon appetite.
You on the other hand....Let me break it down for you. You did it at a moments notice, in the middle of traffic, on a major road, with a tonne of people around, no one spotting, because hey you have no sense of where the race ends and of course you had passengers. All of which makes you a dumbshit.
So essentially you got what you deserved. Bon appetite.
Originally Posted by zoomin
At 17 i had an 89 5.0L stang that i was retarded with raced all over the place, never got one speeding ticket over the year i owned it, then one day after comming back to scarboro from the rona parking lot, a m3 wanted to race me, took it to 170 and shutdown cuz traffic was comming, but my buddy in his 99cobra still wanted to take him so they race through traffic, next thing i know the beemer tries goin inbetween 2 cars (middle of a lane) realizes he cant make it, locks up his tires and spins into a car next to him, that car spins a out a durango and next thing i know im goin 120 in 4th strait towards a trucks headlights, i swerve out of the way, break the rear loose, fishtail for a bit an get the car back strait, then outa nowhere the bimmer rolls infront o me (he wanted to get to the shoulder) so i t-bone him @ round 100. i got charged with dangerous driving causing bodily harm x2 and criminal neglegance causing bodily harm x2, i am 20 now and what resulted from this:
- 2 girls in my car (part of the reason i only took it to 170, i know i was stupid still), my girl ripped tendons, sliced ear, and constant back problems, second girl broke her femur. now this is what i feel the worse about as it mas my moves that brought harm to these people...and that kills me inside.
-my car (a mint 89 5.0L with some boltons) that was my pride and joy, got totalled and turned into an oversized paperweight.
- family problems for a while (european parents...nuff said)
- $30,000 on lawyer
- parents insurance went up to $12,000/yr on 2 cars.
- 1.5 years of being on $10,000 bail with a 9:00 curfew, no license, and restrictions on my freedom.
- after 1.5 years of court i took a plea bargian and ended it with 1 dangerous driving causing bodily harm charge.
- after 1.5 years of court i recieved an extra 1.5 year license suspension, and 1.5 years of probation, along with another 6 months of 9:00 curfew, then another 6 months of 11:00 curfew
- there is now a civil lawsuit pending against me and my father
- the lowest quote for insurance i have found was $17,000 on a 4dr golf..wtf?
- i now have a charge on my record so i cant ever travell to the states
- 2 girls in my car (part of the reason i only took it to 170, i know i was stupid still), my girl ripped tendons, sliced ear, and constant back problems, second girl broke her femur. now this is what i feel the worse about as it mas my moves that brought harm to these people...and that kills me inside.
-my car (a mint 89 5.0L with some boltons) that was my pride and joy, got totalled and turned into an oversized paperweight.
- family problems for a while (european parents...nuff said)
- $30,000 on lawyer
- parents insurance went up to $12,000/yr on 2 cars.
- 1.5 years of being on $10,000 bail with a 9:00 curfew, no license, and restrictions on my freedom.
- after 1.5 years of court i took a plea bargian and ended it with 1 dangerous driving causing bodily harm charge.
- after 1.5 years of court i recieved an extra 1.5 year license suspension, and 1.5 years of probation, along with another 6 months of 9:00 curfew, then another 6 months of 11:00 curfew
- there is now a civil lawsuit pending against me and my father
- the lowest quote for insurance i have found was $17,000 on a 4dr golf..wtf?
- i now have a charge on my record so i cant ever travell to the states
06-20-2006, 09:35 AM
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Low - Low: say what u say but by a legal definition (which is what truly matters) a street race is a contest of speed between two or more vehicles on ANY public road under the highway traffic act. try telling the judge your definition of a streetrace...hell laugh in ur face...laws are inplace for a reason, what if ur racing down a nice empty industrial road, a racoon runs onto the road and startles you u jerk your wheel hit your buddy he flips his car and dies...does the fact that this was a carefully constructed race, done at night, with no passengers, in the middle of no where, typically a commercial or industrial area with 0 traffic, with little or no observers, spotters in place, an exact starting and stopping point and a sense of what is and isn't lunacy when it comes to how far you will take it justify him dying cause this was a "safe" in your perspective race, **** no, accidents do happen...thats why they are called accidents, why cany ppl just keep it to the track? also have you ever been 170kph with a passenger, if so that makes you a dumb as i was, like i said i didnt push the car to its potential, but i was still speeding and that makes what i did wrong, and i never said i didnt deserve the punishment...i said i wish others would learn from them as i have. Also at 17 have you ever made any stupid decisions, im sure everyone has, thats what life is about, learning.
and thanks but im not eating.
R.I.P. to the vette driver and my condolences to his family, some people dont even have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes cuz its too late.
a fool learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from others mistakes.
and thanks but im not eating.
R.I.P. to the vette driver and my condolences to his family, some people dont even have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes cuz its too late.
a fool learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from others mistakes.
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06-20-2006, 10:12 AM
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I wasn't talking about the legal definition, but since you brought it up, they'll both be seen the same way. But in a strict sense of the term by people who do it as a hobby versus people with dipshititis. You weren't street racing, you were out to kill someone.
If a raccoon runs out in front of me I don't swerve, I speed up. Try me, I've killed 4 raccoons in my life. Just another notch in my belt. You never swerve at highspeed, you brake.
Given I am where I am right now at 26 and you are where you are at 20, I'd have to say quite obviously I haven't done anything stupid when I was 17, because my insurance is milk money.
Of course you're not eatting, after 3 years I expect you're already full.
If a raccoon runs out in front of me I don't swerve, I speed up. Try me, I've killed 4 raccoons in my life. Just another notch in my belt. You never swerve at highspeed, you brake.
Given I am where I am right now at 26 and you are where you are at 20, I'd have to say quite obviously I haven't done anything stupid when I was 17, because my insurance is milk money.
Of course you're not eatting, after 3 years I expect you're already full.
Originally Posted by zoomin
Low - Low: say what u say but by a legal definition (which is what truly matters) a street race is a contest of speed between two or more vehicles on ANY public road under the highway traffic act. try telling the judge your definition of a streetrace...hell laugh in ur face...laws are inplace for a reason, what if ur racing down a nice empty industrial road, a racoon runs onto the road and startles you u jerk your wheel hit your buddy he flips his car and dies...does the fact that this was a carefully constructed race, done at night, with no passengers, in the middle of no where, typically a commercial or industrial area with 0 traffic, with little or no observers, spotters in place, an exact starting and stopping point and a sense of what is and isn't lunacy when it comes to how far you will take it justify him dying cause this was a "safe" in your perspective race, **** no, accidents do happen...thats why they are called accidents, why cany ppl just keep it to the track? also have you ever been 170kph with a passenger, if so that makes you a dumb as i was, like i said i didnt push the car to its potential, but i was still speeding and that makes what i did wrong, and i never said i didnt deserve the punishment...i said i wish others would learn from them as i have. Also at 17 have you ever made any stupid decisions, im sure everyone has, thats what life is about, learning.
and thanks but im not eating.
R.I.P. to the vette driver and my condolences to his family, some people dont even have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes cuz its too late.
a fool learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from others mistakes.
and thanks but im not eating.
R.I.P. to the vette driver and my condolences to his family, some people dont even have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes cuz its too late.
a fool learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from others mistakes.
06-20-2006, 10:34 AM
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i didnt come here to argue retard, were both saying the same thing when i was 17 i made wrong decisions and was a dumbass, i said it myself in my first post, you just seem to like to repeat things. i wasnt out to kill anyone as my mustang was capable of hitting much higher speeds then 170, the bimmer who didnt back off and the cobra who took off in traffic mabye they were, i wasnt, i didnt even want to race, the girls wanted it, so i teased the bimmer to 170 and ****ed off.
and no matter how contrlolled you think the environment, a street that is on a street open to the general public and is covered under the HTA is NOT SAFE to race on, one day when you do realize happens, you will feel like a ****in fool for thinking your invincible and cuz u think its safe it makes it ok.
As for doing stupid things i wasnt talking strictly from a driving standpiont i meant anything involving consequences for a wrong doing, and if you havent then all the pwoer to u and ur lame *** life, but 99% of the people out there have.
and yeah i am full
and no matter how contrlolled you think the environment, a street that is on a street open to the general public and is covered under the HTA is NOT SAFE to race on, one day when you do realize happens, you will feel like a ****in fool for thinking your invincible and cuz u think its safe it makes it ok.
As for doing stupid things i wasnt talking strictly from a driving standpiont i meant anything involving consequences for a wrong doing, and if you havent then all the pwoer to u and ur lame *** life, but 99% of the people out there have.
and yeah i am full