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Old 03-30-2008, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by judgez24
ill agree with you there. i rememebr racing till the sun came up at the same spot on many nights. now its not worth racing although people still do.

let me ask you this, assuming zlatko sold the scene out, do you really think hed tell anyone about it and risk having his teeth kicked out on a curb once it got leaked? obviously not. im not saying he did, but im not saying he didnt
Yea, i remember going home @ 6:30am without a hint of bacon in the air and the only reason was because everyone had already ran each other at some point and being tired took over.


And yes, Zlatko would tell me.
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:44 PM
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youd think so. everyone has secrets.


racing used to be great, its a shame its done with and that even going to the track is risky
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I didnt read much of the thread(sorry its late) but this new law is really having an effect(unfortunately). We all know its a cash grab bs and they are catching more regular citizens than "Street racers" (which makes sense since majority of people make up way more of the driving population than "tuners"). ... I use to take part in some fun from time to time(nothing crazy, and did it as safe as I could) but with this new law it really isnt worth it. I cant afford to get f00ked by this, and I think many feel the same way. Before you could deal with a $500 fine or whatever, but automatic roadside suspension/siezure + 2k+ fine etc.

ick, I just stick to having fun on my own (but have to be even more careful now) .

the law is complete bs since "tunerz" and street racing/ accidents make up less than 1% of overall road accidents... and like cell phone usage and drunk driving cause WAY more accidents its not even worth trying to compare data. .but fawk its made me worry about having some fun with the dude next to me more. Maybe im just getting older though ???
sucks cause when done "responsibly" its no big deal imo. I need to move out of province.
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Zlatko was a mod on TSR just like me when the other owner / admins brought it to everyones attention, they removed him. I was only a mod then too but it was the same crap i had heard.

So, don't blame judge or myself for his removal. Your boy Z just didn't leave on his own, people running TSR evicted him. Then months down the road TSR got chopped.

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Completely false rumour. And its rumours like these that helped give a bad name to a lot of people.
What other people have had this rumor associated with them ?

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There was a Rumor going around that Jesse narced to the cops and thats why he sold out GTASR. What happened after that?
What happened ? Nothing, people went seperate ways, TSR was started.

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Exactly, all the GTA based forum communities went down the *******. This place is only alive because of the buy & sell for example.
Riiiight, i hardly think that is the case. The buy and sell is good here and i am guessig that is why you lurk on the site, i can think of others who come here for event pictures or just to read crap like this.
With quality members like you though, this place is bound to turn into GTASR!!!


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Rumours are nothing more than that, rumours. You believe what you want i could care less, but ill tell you, Zlatko had nothing to do with selling anyone out,
There are people who think otherwise. I don't know myself as i was only a moderator when they booted him off for narcing to the Toronto Police.
I am giving it a 50/50 chance that he ratted on people.

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he got out of this hole because he didnt wanna be like you and Rick in there 30's still on a shitty forum talking to a bunch of punk kids who think they own the streets.

'Nuff said.
Wow, what does being 30 have to do with being on the largest site in Ontario about cars ?
Where should we go, XDR ? LMAO, or wait, maybe OSR ?
If you want to talk about sites, atleast talk about your failed one(s). The one(s) that tried to ride on the coat tails of what others (me) had built before.

Who knows, maybe you were in the ratting too.

LOL

Anyways, i don't think anyone is hating on the guy anymore, that narcing crap took place a long time ago.
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i just gotta ask, so according to what your saying, when i hit 30 ive gotta get out of the car scene, sell my car and not talk about cars with people ive become friends with throughout the years? man lots of losers out there with some real nice cars.

speaking of cars, rick i gotta find you on msn and talk to you about some cobra r brakes or soemthing similar for my stang
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Yea man, i could talk to you but I'm over 30. Life is over and i suck now.

Z28 MeTaL HeAd, what if you're over 19 and you hang out at Tim Hortons once in a while, what are you then ?
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man i hang out at timmies here with my car friends quite a bit, **** i hope this answer isnt a bad one, haha.
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I still chill at Tim's fairly often.

I've met quite a few good friends there.
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Originally Posted by 2TONE_93GT
Zlatko was a mod on TSR just like me when the other owner / admins brought it to everyones attention, they removed him. I was only a mod then too but it was the same crap i had heard.
So what? Do you believe everything you hear?

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So, don't blame judge or myself for his removal. Your boy Z just didn't leave on his own, people running TSR evicted him. Then months down the road TSR got chopped.
Wrong again. Zlatko was never evicted ROFL! He did leave on his own, thats a fact.


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What other people have had this rumor associated with them ?
Jesse did, except his was a much more serious case. And its funny how you guys mention this "rumour" about Zlatko, but somehow none of the REGULARS who actually went to the meets and not just stayed on the boards have never heard of this rumour before, but only now have?


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What happened ? Nothing, people went seperate ways, TSR was started.
Ugh...no. TSR was the Originator. It was always here. It expanded from the days of the original EZ Board (Which i was on too, were you even around than Rick, hell have you ever even raced anyone before?) and than once they went to the new board, the 2 owners split it into TSR & GTASR. You forgot already?



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Riiiight, i hardly think that is the case. The buy and sell is good here and i am guessig that is why you lurk on the site, i can think of others who come here for event pictures or just to read crap like this.
With quality members like you though, this place is bound to turn into GTASR!!!
Newsflash Rick. I already said the buy & sell is good, its the ONLY thing keeping this place up. Look how theres rarely ever new posts in ANY section, with the exception to the buy & sell or Honda sub-section...i wonder why that is?

As for quality members like me, shut up man. Maybe we should all be more like you though, such an inspirational "leader" you are, right?


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There are people who think otherwise. I don't know myself as i was only a moderator when they booted him off for narcing to the Toronto Police.
I am giving it a 50/50 chance that he ratted on people.
Again with the BS. Zlatko was never booted off, and he never narced to the Police. People think of the wildest things when one of the "icons" leaves the scene.


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Wow, what does being 30 have to do with being on the largest site in Ontario about cars ?
Where should we go, XDR ? LMAO, or wait, maybe OSR ?
If you want to talk about sites, atleast talk about your failed one(s). The one(s) that tried to ride on the coat tails of what others (me) had built before.
This place is only the largest site in Ontario about cars because of its OWN "coat tail" so who are you trying to kid? And like i mentioned before, Zlatko didnt want to be a part of this 'scene' anymore, he grew up. He realized the car 'scene' (if you want to call it that anymore here) went right down the gutter and wanted to part of IT. Not the people, otherwise people like me and a few others who still come onto this site wouldnt STILL TO THIS DAY be friends with him and talk to him on a daily basis.

BTW, XDR had nothing to do with me. **** Steve (the owner of XDR) as he really IS a rat, but you should know that already, it was a big thing all over GTASR and GTAMC at the time. As for OSR, you can laugh all you want, but thats where everyone went after GTASR died. I never made any other sites and i seldom rarely lurk here. Come on, you're the webmaster, why dont you look up my login stats.

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Who knows, maybe you were in the ratting too.
Yea ok Rick. I guess i Narced on myself than right? Are you retarded? One of your own damn videos shows me racing 5+ times alone AFTER Zlatko had already left and decided not to come back, but you must be right



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Anyways, i don't think anyone is hating on the guy anymore, that narcing crap took place a long time ago.
Uchi clearly showed hatred toward him by saying Zlatko would get his teeth kicked in if people knew who he was and what he did. like that FALSE rumours and people end up hating on someone for the wrong reasons.
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Originally Posted by judgez24
i just gotta ask, so according to what your saying, when i hit 30 ive gotta get out of the car scene, sell my car and not talk about cars with people ive become friends with throughout the years? man lots of losers out there with some real nice cars.

speaking of cars, rick i gotta find you on msn and talk to you about some cobra r brakes or soemthing similar for my stang
I didnt say that. Ill be in my 60s and still into the car scene, i dont personally give a about peoples age. If you have a nice car and you still go out to meets and run your car and not just your mouth than you've got my respect.

A lot of people have nice cars, but even more people that used to be regulars at the meets/runs DONT anymore. I know guys who've gone from nice fox-bodys to stock BMW's. Full bolt-ons 6-speed LS1's to stock d-series beaters. Built turbo Civics to pick-up trucks. They dont come on these sites anymore and they dont race anymore, but does that mean they narced to the cops? No i didnt think so. Some peoples lives change and they have much different goals in life.


As for your Brakes, you can pickup a set of 03-04 cobra fronts for cheap off e-bay. Ive seen a few on Kijiji and Craigslist too.
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Originally Posted by 2TONE_93GT
Yea man, i could talk to you but I'm over 30. Life is over and i suck now.

Z28 MeTaL HeAd, what if you're over 19 and you hang out at Tim Hortons once in a while, what are you then ?
Rick, you know im older than 19, and i still hang out at tims. I saw you at 403 & dundas with Stu what? 4 years ago? Havent seen you out since.


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Old 04-05-2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by judgez24
man i hang out at timmies here with my car friends quite a bit, **** i hope this answer isnt a bad one, haha.
Most people still into cars do. Theres no where else to really go anymore without being harassed, and even than people still get harassed just hanging out drinking coffees at a Tims.
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Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
Most people still into cars do. Theres no where else to really go anymore without being harassed, and even than people still get harassed just hanging out drinking coffees at a Tims.
This is true.

And this thread got alot bigger than I thought it was going to.

I heard the rumours about Zlatko, and, not knowing him, believed them. However that doesn't mean I still do.

I just think the whole scene went downhill in about 04, early 05. Everyone stopped running and hardparkers took over. And now, racing is just about impossible (and STUPID) unless you head out to Cayuga.

Its too bad, I had alot of REALLY good friends who've just disappeared because they got out of the car scene.
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Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
So what? Do you believe everything you hear?
Well, it acts like a rat, smells like a rat; it's likely far worse than just a rat

But, in his defense, i don't know if its true or not, it's just what some people have said.

People do desperate things to make a quick buck. And when other(s) who were at the time old schoolers around here thought he was a rat, why should we question them? It was different back then, it was about street racing.

I may not "believe" everything I hear, but its going to make me wonder whats going on.

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Wrong again. Zlatko was never evicted ROFL! He did leave on his own, thats a fact.
Zlatko was 100% kicked off the site. His ban may have been lifted at some time, and I know he still comes here. Despite what you claim, he was here (03-30-2008); and that is totally cool too.

Life is too short for people to be net hating.

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Jesse did, except his was a much more serious case. And its funny how you guys mention this "rumour" about Zlatko, but somehow none of the REGULARS who actually went to the meets and not just stayed on the boards have never heard of this rumour before, but only now have?
I've been to the meets, hell, even you acknowledge i recorded some street races. I used to go out a lot back in the day to the Islington meets, even W.B. , but it started to get lame, so i just stayed local.

Who wants to deal with the cops all the time ? Can't even go to Timmies without the police profiling you these days. Other priorities in life right

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Ugh...no. TSR was the Originator. It was always here. It expanded from the days of the original EZ Board (Which i was on too, were you even around than Rick, hell have you ever even raced anyone before?) and than once they went to the new board, the 2 owners split it into TSR & GTASR. You forgot already?
Nope, i was not around in the ez board days. I met Mark just before him and Jesse split and I started helping out on the forum with him and Sascha.

Yes, i have raced before, totally retarded too now that i look back.

Times change, street racing doesn't interest me, i have far too much to loose. If you want to race, by all means, go ahead. Being a street racer means jack all here these days.

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Newsflash Rick. I already said the buy & sell is good, its the ONLY thing keeping this place up. Look how theres rarely ever new posts in ANY section, with the exception to the buy & sell or Honda sub-section...i wonder why that is?
Forum seems to be doing fine. Events get covered, people chat, hell, even you are making conversation in here.

Keep up the good work

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As for quality members like me, shut up man. Maybe we should all be more like you though, such an inspirational "leader" you are, right?
If you put 10% of what i have into this site, imagine.

I will continue to put my money and efforts into the site (with the help of the staff) and WONT sell out in the end. , i had to buy this site back to save it.

We should really all be like you :thumbsup:

But, for argument sake, what would make me a better leader ?

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Again with the BS. Zlatko was never booted off, and he never narced to the Police. People think of the wildest things when one of the "icons" leaves the scene.
Zlatko was 100% banned, booted off. Suspicions of being a rat.

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This place is only the largest site in Ontario about cars because of its OWN "coat tail" so who are you trying to kid?
This is the biggest forum in Ontario for a reason. Because of the users and the staff.
Don't blame me

Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
And like i mentioned before, Zlatko didnt want to be a part of this 'scene' anymore, he grew up. He realized the car 'scene' (if you want to call it that anymore here) went right down the gutter and wanted to part of IT. Not the people, otherwise people like me and a few others who still come onto this site wouldnt STILL TO THIS DAY be friends with him and talk to him on a daily basis.
I am guessing Zlatko got black listed from the scene for being a "snitch". Again, working off rumors and all that took place way back then.
Maybe he did grow up, most everyone does.
Who cares, you make it seem like Zlatko was the scene. LOL. Maybe in your eyes man

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BTW, XDR had nothing to do with me. **** Steve (the owner of XDR) as he really IS a rat, but you should know that already, it was a big thing all over GTASR and GTAMC at the time.
Yes, Steve Arbuckle is a scammer, i know first hand. Him and his Number 9 scammerprises. LOL


Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
As for OSR, you can laugh all you want, but thats where everyone went after GTASR died. I never made any other sites and i seldom rarely lurk here. Come on, you're the webmaster, why dont you look up my login stats.
OSR, interesting site. Whatever the case, too bad it's gone. I don't have much else to say about it all really. Just for someone to have all this criticism towards a site whos trying to stay positive and promote the scene and he has failed himself, just kind of ghey

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Yea ok Rick. I guess i Narced on myself than right? Are you retarded? One of your own damn videos shows me racing 5+ times alone AFTER Zlatko had already left and decided not to come back, but you must be right
Listen, i have no idea what the time lines are of when Zlakto got banned vs when you race vs when he says he quit the scene.


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Uchi clearly showed hatred toward him by saying Zlatko would get his teeth kicked in if people knew who he was and what he did. like that FALSE rumours and people end up hating on someone for the wrong reasons.
Well, people don't like rats. What do you expect? People 'generally' don't wake up and say "hey, lets call so and so a rat".

Who knows the real story, sure as hell not me. It was a big deal years ago but it didn't affect me so i am not as upset about the rat talk

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I didnt say that. Ill be in my 60s and still into the car scene, i dont personally give a about peoples age. If you have a nice car and you still go out to meets and run your car and not just your mouth than you've got my respect.

A lot of people have nice cars, but even more people that used to be regulars at the meets/runs DONT anymore. I know guys who've gone from nice fox-bodys to stock BMW's. Full bolt-ons 6-speed LS1's to stock d-series beaters. Built turbo Civics to pick-up trucks. They dont come on these sites anymore and they dont race anymore, but does that mean they narced to the cops? No i didnt think so. Some peoples lives change and they have much different goals in life.


As for your Brakes, you can pickup a set of 03-04 cobra fronts for cheap off e-bay. Ive seen a few on Kijiji and Craigslist too.
I agree with with you, peoples lives change. Street Racing, is not what it was back in the day. That’s over. And even if it weren’t, I don’t know how many people will risk it these days.

With people growing up, priorities change. I’ve only heard of two people from the TSR days being narcs. If it is true or not, who knows. Again, for me, it doesn’t really affect me in anyway and I really have no hard feelings towards those 2 guys, but I wasn’t affected.

As for a Cobra R brake kit, you’re looking at almost 4k by the time you buy it all and pay to have it installed.

Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
Rick, you know im older than 19, and i still hang out at tims. I saw you at 403 & dundas with Stu what? 4 years ago? Havent seen you out since.


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Damn, 4 years ago? I was out maybe 4 times last year at that Timmies. I actually cruised my stang once to another tims to hangout and it was a decent time, went earlier in the night. Just car enthusiasts, even hit up Applewood.

But, over the last few years, 2 different jobs and well, hours were gay!

I doubt I will be out at 403 this year too, but I will still be hitting up events and hopefully my CAA card wont be in full affect. LOL

DB errors, I seen 1 error come in for some reason when you posted, I will look into it.
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This is true.

And this thread got alot bigger than I thought it was going to.

I heard the rumours about Zlatko, and, not knowing him, believed them. However that doesn't mean I still do.
I know for me, it has never really mattered. Back then the site was different, the staff made a decision, he was removed for a reason.

I don't want to harp on him or continually use his name because you are right, he may be 100% innocent.

Originally Posted by 95ProbeGT_Cory
I just think the whole scene went downhill in about 04, early 05. Everyone stopped running and hardparkers took over. And now, racing is just about impossible (and STUPID) unless you head out to Cayuga.

Its too bad, I had alot of REALLY good friends who've just disappeared because they got out of the car scene.
The street racing scene is dead. Penalties are stiff making it not worth it.
I met a lot of great people too from the scene and more than enough people that were not so great. There are far too many haters out there.
I don’t mind show and shines or meets, or even track days, I love the scene.
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