BBK SSI Intake Fuel Leak Problems.
04-14-2007, 09:46 PM
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Well, Nick from Nicks Automotive has fixed my car and the leaking fuel rail issue. I am happy this BBK SSI ordeal is over with, the additional $300 cost made the intake a $1000+ dollar intake! BBK, that was my new Shifter + !!!!!!! 
Car is now done right and i am happy about that, i will be able to sleep at night. Ive continued to post up pictures here on Stangfan.
1 thing i will add, i love the look of the intake, i am pleased it is all worked out (with exception of the additional cost). I missed my audio deadline, so what, car is all good now and it'll be in later for the audio goodies.
Some pics
Orings they shipped
The cross over tube that kept leaking unless 4 o-rings were put in place
Taping the BBK SSI fuel rail
Completed job
BBK did provide some instructions on how to do this. I will leave it for them to publish, but feel free to use my Pics or even Contact Nick himself if you need a quick hand.
Heres a camera phone video of the car running, no leaks
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Car is now done right and i am happy about that, i will be able to sleep at night. Ive continued to post up pictures here on Stangfan.
1 thing i will add, i love the look of the intake, i am pleased it is all worked out (with exception of the additional cost). I missed my audio deadline, so what, car is all good now and it'll be in later for the audio goodies.
Some pics
Orings they shipped
The cross over tube that kept leaking unless 4 o-rings were put in place
Taping the BBK SSI fuel rail
Completed job
BBK did provide some instructions on how to do this. I will leave it for them to publish, but feel free to use my Pics or even Contact Nick himself if you need a quick hand.
Heres a camera phone video of the car running, no leaks
Right Click Save As
04-18-2007, 09:23 PM
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Sounds good, i like it, nick did a great job! Those clowns at BBK are well, just clowns. I essentially got stuck with some dodgey product they created, then i had to pay to have it fixed.
They should be footing the bill.
They have indirectly threatened sue me for slander because i posted about how the BBK SSI intake leaks fuel on a few sites.
If i was in their position, i would start making a product that wasn't dangerous for the average mustang enthusiast. I mean, i cant believe these guys to be honest. But now i know.
They should be footing the bill.
They have indirectly threatened sue me for slander because i posted about how the BBK SSI intake leaks fuel on a few sites.
If i was in their position, i would start making a product that wasn't dangerous for the average mustang enthusiast. I mean, i cant believe these guys to be honest. But now i know.
04-19-2007, 11:07 AM
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BBK Leaking Fuel Rail
I was lucky enough that when i had called Summit Racing, they were willing to take the BBK SSI intake back, offer a full refund and or i could take any other intake.
Summit Racing was VERY stand up about the situation. They in fact went to the stangnet thread before it was altered by the BBK staff. I am sure nothing will come of it, but had i known before i started having this intake re & re'd and all this mucking around, i would have sent it back. It was only 1 week ago i had spoken with Summit and had already been knee deep into this leaking bbk ssi intake drama.
As for BBK, I think the worst thing about them so far is their attempt to discredit me in the StangNet thread, yet, they miss the fact there are others complaining about the same fuel leak. They went and modified their previous posts which was pretty cowardly. I understand their need to look right and or save face, doesn’t make it right.
They could have gone the extra mile and made right on this whole issue. They could have easily said to Nicks Automotive “how much to fix this, send us the bill and issue will go away”. Instead, Bryan Rogers replies to the stangnet thread with “custom labor is expensive”. Well no kidding, I’m fixing a dangerous leaky fuel rail you designed.
Not only did MPW and Nicks agree this fuel rail was dangerous, the minute the Manager (team leader) at summit racing looked at it, he was like “not a very good design”.
Now I know Bryan will likely chime in again and tell us how he tested this design up to 75 psi of fuel pressure or something along those lines. Maybe he did, maybe it worked perfect for him. I know for myself, and others it has not worked perfect. And judging by everyone’s comments on stangnet, there seems to be some quality issues with BBKs products.
I will say, other than the BBK SSI gas leak from the fuel rails, I like their stuff. In fact, had they gone the extra mile and taken cared of this whole mess I would be praising them rather then keeping everyone updated on their lack of sealing the deal on their customer care.
As for Nicks Automotive. This is the first time I have ever dealt with Nicks. This was the 2nd time dealing with MPW.
Nick has looked after me and has done a great job on the car, I will be a returning customer for sure. It did get pricey to fix, and even though im broke, it was reasonable for the amount of tasks he had. So again, I’m grateful he treated my car the way he did, like his own.
MPW, Mike was pretty good to me. This o-ring issue seems to be iffy, did he forget the rings, did he not… I don’t know. As I said, they did tell me the intake was horrible and would leak fuel, I should have taken their advice, rookie mistake on my part I suppose; but to my defense I really like the intake.
Summit Racing, amazing. I have bought so much stuff from those guys its unreal. Return policy is amazing and they take care of their customers, even when its NOT their fault.
As for BBK Performance. I have a number of their products on my car, enough that people coined the car “the BBK car”. I don’t believe there is anything else I will purchase that is BBK. I did have my eye on a few more BBK items but I will go with someone else more than likely, its not a guarantee, I mean, I sincerely like their products. Feeling like I got the shitty end of the stick turns me off from them. At least there’s a story to tell on the show circuit, I mean, everyone does ask about the intake.
Crap happens, what can you do?
04-19-2007, 04:18 PM
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I work at BBK. Here's my side of this whole thing.
If there is anyone wants to read the WHOLE story, and not just Ricks side of it, go ahead and check it out
BBK SSI Intake Fuel Leak Problems. SAVE YOURSELF! - Mustang Forums at StangNet
That "big paragraph" is still there unedited
I believe you are refering to the post (which has not been edited) where I said "Anytime you need to ask us a question or get some help with our products we will do our best for you, But we will not take internet flaming lightly, especially when it's due to something like O-rings not being installed AT ALL. How is that our fault?"
When I said "we will not take internet flaming lightly" I meant that from that point on, I will be monitoring your thread(s) and that I will respond with accurate information whenever you post something that is just not true.
You say that you were indirectly threatened with legal action and that my posts were edited to hide this. The posts that I edited were done so for spelling.
You too have posts that were edited in that thread.
You made up the whole legal action thing to make yourself look like you were about to be victimized.
I work in the R&D dept. and Doug works in tech. He started working here the week you called here.
Why the hell would I/we want to sue you? We don't own this company. I get a paycheck and that's it. No bonuses for recommending product (or sticking it to the customer like you say)
The truth is, YOU refused to use the Summit return/exchange policy, and YOU decided to have a shop try and fix the issue at your cost.
THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
And now you realize that you should've/could've got a new intake from Summit without spending any money and you are angry. It shows.
Do you honestly believe that good customer service consists of you bypassing the warranty process and taking your car to a shop to fix something and then you send the manufacturer the labor/ repair bill because you didn't follow the warranty guidelines?
And now we have to go through all of this because YOU decided to handle it this way?
BBK gladly accepts returns as clearly stated on our website.
Here it is-
Warranty Guidelines
All BBK products are warranteed against any defect in materials or crafmanship for a period of one year from the date of purchase. These terms apply as long as it has been determined that the product in question was installed and used in accordance to all guidelines set forth by BBK.
If a product is found defective, it can be returned to the location of purchase or you may contact our warranty department at (951) 296-1771 M-F 8:00-5:00 PST to obtain a return authorization number. The return authorization number (RGA) must be clearly marked on the return package in order for our warranty department to process the item.
An original receipt showing the date of purchase must also be supplied or the warranty is null and void. If a defect is determined, the item will be immediately fixed or replaced at no cost to the consumer. However, BBK will not reimburse any person(s) for cost of labor or any other costs incurred by the item in question.
EVERYONE? Funny, when I read that thread, there were more people saying good things about the intake. One guy said he'd never installed an intake before the SSI and that it's been on for a year with no issues.
Once again, you are exaggerating.
And now you have your friend from Mississauga with 0 posts come in and say he's seen the SSI leak too? Now you are really stretching it.
Obviously you are a person who exaggerates the truth and twists things around to make yourself look good at the expense of others.(Just to be clear I'm calling you a liar here) There are many things you have posted here and on Stangnet that prove this.
Looking at your proflies on these forums for example, you have yourself listed as a 22 year old on one forum, and a 30 year old on another. Why would you lie about your age?
Trivial I know, but it shows me and everyone else what kind of person I'm dealing with here.
The bottom line from my point of view is-
There still has been no determination as to why the tube was leaking.
I still have not heard from Nick's regarding the length of the crossover tube.
For all I know, when MPW installed the tube with no O-rings, they might have damaged the ends of the tube which would cause it to leak.
I guess I'll never know why your fuel rail crossover tube leaked.
To answer your final question in the Stangnet thread.
No.
No warranty on modified parts.
BBK SSI Intake Fuel Leak Problems. SAVE YOURSELF! - Mustang Forums at StangNet
I believe you are refering to the post (which has not been edited) where I said "Anytime you need to ask us a question or get some help with our products we will do our best for you, But we will not take internet flaming lightly, especially when it's due to something like O-rings not being installed AT ALL. How is that our fault?"
When I said "we will not take internet flaming lightly" I meant that from that point on, I will be monitoring your thread(s) and that I will respond with accurate information whenever you post something that is just not true.
You say that you were indirectly threatened with legal action and that my posts were edited to hide this. The posts that I edited were done so for spelling.
You too have posts that were edited in that thread.
You made up the whole legal action thing to make yourself look like you were about to be victimized.
I work in the R&D dept. and Doug works in tech. He started working here the week you called here.
Why the hell would I/we want to sue you? We don't own this company. I get a paycheck and that's it. No bonuses for recommending product (or sticking it to the customer like you say)
I was lucky enough that when i had called Summit Racing, they were willing to take the BBK SSI intake back, offer a full refund and or i could take any other intake.
Summit Racing was VERY stand up about the situation. They in fact went to the stangnet thread before it was altered by the BBK staff. I am sure nothing will come of it, but had i known before i started having this intake re & re'd and all this mucking around, i would have sent it back. It was only 1 week ago i had spoken with Summit and had already been knee deep into this leaking bbk ssi intake drama.
As for BBK, I think the worst thing about them so far is their attempt to discredit me in the StangNet thread, yet, they miss the fact there are others complaining about the same fuel leak. They went and modified their previous posts which was pretty cowardly. I understand their need to look right and or save face, doesn’t make it right.
They could have gone the extra mile and made right on this whole issue. They could have easily said to Nicks Automotive “how much to fix this, send us the bill and issue will go away”. Instead, Bryan Rogers replies to the stangnet thread with “custom labor is expensive”. Well no kidding, I’m fixing a dangerous leaky fuel rail you designed.
Summit Racing was VERY stand up about the situation. They in fact went to the stangnet thread before it was altered by the BBK staff. I am sure nothing will come of it, but had i known before i started having this intake re & re'd and all this mucking around, i would have sent it back. It was only 1 week ago i had spoken with Summit and had already been knee deep into this leaking bbk ssi intake drama.
As for BBK, I think the worst thing about them so far is their attempt to discredit me in the StangNet thread, yet, they miss the fact there are others complaining about the same fuel leak. They went and modified their previous posts which was pretty cowardly. I understand their need to look right and or save face, doesn’t make it right.
They could have gone the extra mile and made right on this whole issue. They could have easily said to Nicks Automotive “how much to fix this, send us the bill and issue will go away”. Instead, Bryan Rogers replies to the stangnet thread with “custom labor is expensive”. Well no kidding, I’m fixing a dangerous leaky fuel rail you designed.
THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
And now you realize that you should've/could've got a new intake from Summit without spending any money and you are angry. It shows.
Do you honestly believe that good customer service consists of you bypassing the warranty process and taking your car to a shop to fix something and then you send the manufacturer the labor/ repair bill because you didn't follow the warranty guidelines?
And now we have to go through all of this because YOU decided to handle it this way?
BBK gladly accepts returns as clearly stated on our website.
Here it is-
Warranty Guidelines
All BBK products are warranteed against any defect in materials or crafmanship for a period of one year from the date of purchase. These terms apply as long as it has been determined that the product in question was installed and used in accordance to all guidelines set forth by BBK.
If a product is found defective, it can be returned to the location of purchase or you may contact our warranty department at (951) 296-1771 M-F 8:00-5:00 PST to obtain a return authorization number. The return authorization number (RGA) must be clearly marked on the return package in order for our warranty department to process the item.
An original receipt showing the date of purchase must also be supplied or the warranty is null and void. If a defect is determined, the item will be immediately fixed or replaced at no cost to the consumer. However, BBK will not reimburse any person(s) for cost of labor or any other costs incurred by the item in question.
Not only did MPW and Nicks agree this fuel rail was dangerous, the minute the Manager (team leader) at summit racing looked at it, he was like “not a very good design”.
Now I know Bryan will likely chime in again and tell us how he tested this design up to 75 psi of fuel pressure or something along those lines. Maybe he did, maybe it worked perfect for him. I know for myself, and others it has not worked perfect. And judging by everyone’s comments on stangnet, there seems to be some quality issues with BBKs products.
Now I know Bryan will likely chime in again and tell us how he tested this design up to 75 psi of fuel pressure or something along those lines. Maybe he did, maybe it worked perfect for him. I know for myself, and others it has not worked perfect. And judging by everyone’s comments on stangnet, there seems to be some quality issues with BBKs products.
Once again, you are exaggerating.
And now you have your friend from Mississauga with 0 posts come in and say he's seen the SSI leak too? Now you are really stretching it.
Obviously you are a person who exaggerates the truth and twists things around to make yourself look good at the expense of others.(Just to be clear I'm calling you a liar here) There are many things you have posted here and on Stangnet that prove this.
Looking at your proflies on these forums for example, you have yourself listed as a 22 year old on one forum, and a 30 year old on another. Why would you lie about your age?
Trivial I know, but it shows me and everyone else what kind of person I'm dealing with here.
The bottom line from my point of view is-
There still has been no determination as to why the tube was leaking.
I still have not heard from Nick's regarding the length of the crossover tube.
For all I know, when MPW installed the tube with no O-rings, they might have damaged the ends of the tube which would cause it to leak.
I guess I'll never know why your fuel rail crossover tube leaked.
To answer your final question in the Stangnet thread.
No.
No warranty on modified parts.
04-19-2007, 05:19 PM
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LOL, yes, i made it all up just to waste my time *sarcasm*
You should spend more fixing the leaky fuel rails you sell than trying to save face on line. :thumbsup:
Yes, this is the link where it all started
BBK SSI FUEL LEAK :thumbsup:
So tell me whats not true ? Stop worrying about what my age says on some forum i joined up on years ago (stangnet) and start worrying about all the damage your design is doing out there.
Again, if you could read, i said summit was only in touch with me last week on the evening i sent the final email saying your o-ring design was a fire hazard and i would NEVER EVER live with that. Get over it man, you designed a product that leaks fuel.
I had already had that intake off a few times and Nicks time and energy was already into it. Sure, we could have boxed it up, sent it back, and what, get another BBK intake that leaked fuel. Stupid design.
And you think you're going through a lot now because of a couple posts i made outing your dangerous fuel rail setup.. lol, thats awesome. Keep replying, and i'll keep repeating how your
BBK SSI INTAKE IS A POTENTIAL DEATH TRAP
Done, i provided a receipt. In fact, its posted in the original thread. Defect was determined, item was not fixed or replaced at no cost to me. :thumbsup:
And now, the BBK r&d guru instructed how to resolve it, and now theres no warranty. Ducking again eh, cant stand behind it.
I am just happy that it works now and i dont have to worry about my car catching fire cause of you fuel rail design.
Oh, and again for your eyes. Maybe you didnt see it the first 3 times it was posted around the net (since you dont use the internet but are on every site i'm on so far *cough, who's the liar*)
But hey, im the liar. LOL.. hey man, whatever you believe works for you and BBK.
Your product is flawed , its a completely retarded design !!!! :thumbsup:
Chime in again so i can repeat myself some more. :thumbsup:
Better yet, lets get Bryan Murphy in on this. Too bad you edited MANY of your posts on stangnet :thumbsup: My story is still the same.
YOUR BBK SSI INTAKE FUEL RAIL LEAKS FUEL
and in my situation was a complete FIRE HAZARD :thumbsup:
Let me know if you wanna go through that again.
You should spend more fixing the leaky fuel rails you sell than trying to save face on line. :thumbsup:
Yes, this is the link where it all started
BBK SSI FUEL LEAK :thumbsup:
So tell me whats not true ? Stop worrying about what my age says on some forum i joined up on years ago (stangnet) and start worrying about all the damage your design is doing out there.
Again, if you could read, i said summit was only in touch with me last week on the evening i sent the final email saying your o-ring design was a fire hazard and i would NEVER EVER live with that. Get over it man, you designed a product that leaks fuel.
I had already had that intake off a few times and Nicks time and energy was already into it. Sure, we could have boxed it up, sent it back, and what, get another BBK intake that leaked fuel. Stupid design.
And you think you're going through a lot now because of a couple posts i made outing your dangerous fuel rail setup.. lol, thats awesome. Keep replying, and i'll keep repeating how your
BBK SSI INTAKE IS A POTENTIAL DEATH TRAP
An original receipt showing the date of purchase must also be supplied or the warranty is null and void. If a defect is determined, the item will be immediately fixed or replaced at no cost to the consumer.
And now, the BBK r&d guru instructed how to resolve it, and now theres no warranty. Ducking again eh, cant stand behind it.
I am just happy that it works now and i dont have to worry about my car catching fire cause of you fuel rail design.
Oh, and again for your eyes. Maybe you didnt see it the first 3 times it was posted around the net (since you dont use the internet but are on every site i'm on so far *cough, who's the liar*)
But hey, im the liar. LOL.. hey man, whatever you believe works for you and BBK.
Your product is flawed , its a completely retarded design !!!! :thumbsup:
Chime in again so i can repeat myself some more. :thumbsup:
Better yet, lets get Bryan Murphy in on this. Too bad you edited MANY of your posts on stangnet :thumbsup: My story is still the same.
YOUR BBK SSI INTAKE FUEL RAIL LEAKS FUEL
and in my situation was a complete FIRE HAZARD :thumbsup:
Let me know if you wanna go through that again.
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I NEVER said I don't go on the internet.
I have over 2,000 posts on Corral.net. Which interestingly enough, started out as a response to someone who was talking negativley about a product that had not even been been released yet.
DOUG doesn't go to forums as he's not much of a hardcore Mustang guy.
YOURS leaked until you got them fixed.
You got them fixed even though you didn't go about it in the easiest/affordable way.
The only other person who said they had seen a set of rails leak is your imaginary friend there with 1 post from Mississauga
Stop complaining.
04-19-2007, 06:15 PM
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From stangnet
http://forums.stangnet.com/showpost.php?p=6776833&postcount=4
http://forums.stangnet.com/showpost.php?p=6778172&postcount=12
http://forums.stangnet.com/showpost.php?p=6779282&postcount=29
http://forums.stangnet.com/showpost.php?p=6809680&postcount=49
Sounds like a bunch of happy customers you got there!! :thumbsup:
I guess they're liars too ?
You guys really need to step up the quality control on your work. That alone is from just 1 thread on Stangnet!
Not to say some people arent happy. I mean, i would have been happy too had a professional not pointed out that i had a fire hazard under my hood :thumbsup:
Maybe you should go read that thread again, better yet. Dont. Seriously, dont do it. Go back to your r&d table and start working on a commercial fix for this BBK SSI intake you developed.
Im glad my efforts have set you on your way to refining your product.
Since you claim theres no warranty on the parts now, would there have been warranty if my car caught fire and burned to the ground.
Let me know! :thumbsup:
And as i said, keep posting, it fuels the fire that burns inside (and not under the hood of my car). We need to the good word about this intake and its quality issues.
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03-18-07, 12:08 AM
I don't buy BBK stuff anymore after all the problems I've had. I would recommend potential buyers beware of their questionable quality.
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I don't buy BBK stuff anymore after all the problems I've had. I would recommend potential buyers beware of their questionable quality.
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03-18-07, 10:49 PM
Had the exact problem with fuel leaks you describe. Had the damn thing apart about 15 times with numerous guage o-rings before it finally sealed. The fuel crossover tube is a crappy design with shoddy tolerances! BBK now offers a different flexible crossover tube that is plumbed at the rear of the rails, supposedly in order to work with other lowers on the market. It does offer more compatibility, but I think they finally threw in the towel on the POS hardline design.
Looking back, it would have been a simpler, and quicker fix to just plug the crossover holes, tap the rear holes, and install AN fittings with some braided SS line.
Would also have been nice if all of the parts had been supplied in the kit. 45 minutes of driving to the machine shop for the alignment dowels was not fun.
Also had the oil consumption issue, but most of that turned out to be that the bottom plate was put on backwards. User error for sure, but it came packaged that way, and it appeared to be installed correctly. Only a call to BBK and a re-read of the small print in the instructions revealed the problem.
Also had hood clearance issues and ended up grinding some of the inner structure away to make it fit.
The SSI does look different, and cool, ....and it runs strong above 3500, but it ain't worth it IM(veryhumble)HO.
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Had the exact problem with fuel leaks you describe. Had the damn thing apart about 15 times with numerous guage o-rings before it finally sealed. The fuel crossover tube is a crappy design with shoddy tolerances! BBK now offers a different flexible crossover tube that is plumbed at the rear of the rails, supposedly in order to work with other lowers on the market. It does offer more compatibility, but I think they finally threw in the towel on the POS hardline design.
Looking back, it would have been a simpler, and quicker fix to just plug the crossover holes, tap the rear holes, and install AN fittings with some braided SS line.
Would also have been nice if all of the parts had been supplied in the kit. 45 minutes of driving to the machine shop for the alignment dowels was not fun.
Also had the oil consumption issue, but most of that turned out to be that the bottom plate was put on backwards. User error for sure, but it came packaged that way, and it appeared to be installed correctly. Only a call to BBK and a re-read of the small print in the instructions revealed the problem.
Also had hood clearance issues and ended up grinding some of the inner structure away to make it fit.
The SSI does look different, and cool, ....and it runs strong above 3500, but it ain't worth it IM(veryhumble)HO.
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First off, thank you for this thread. I receieved my BBK Fuel Rails last week from Summit. I ordered the fuel rail exclusivley becuase of the color and the fact they would mate up with my BBK fuel pressure regulator. Upon initial inspection I noticed fish eyes down the fuel rails where holes were drilled for the injectors. Obviously this was a quality control issue and could only imagine that eventually they would more than likely clog an injector. After hearing this horror stroy I am going to call Summit and return them and either keep the stock rails or go with a reputable fuel rail manufactuer like Aeromotive.
Thanks again for such an informational post.
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First off, thank you for this thread. I receieved my BBK Fuel Rails last week from Summit. I ordered the fuel rail exclusivley becuase of the color and the fact they would mate up with my BBK fuel pressure regulator. Upon initial inspection I noticed fish eyes down the fuel rails where holes were drilled for the injectors. Obviously this was a quality control issue and could only imagine that eventually they would more than likely clog an injector. After hearing this horror stroy I am going to call Summit and return them and either keep the stock rails or go with a reputable fuel rail manufactuer like Aeromotive.
Thanks again for such an informational post.
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Wow i can't believe they are still having issues with this hmmm maybe the cross over tube maybe cut alittle short or the spacing where the bolt goes to the lower intake is too thick. What i did was grinded down the spacers so it would close tighter against the crossover tube they may want to try that.
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Wow i can't believe they are still having issues with this hmmm maybe the cross over tube maybe cut alittle short or the spacing where the bolt goes to the lower intake is too thick. What i did was grinded down the spacers so it would close tighter against the crossover tube they may want to try that.
Sounds like a bunch of happy customers you got there!! :thumbsup:
I guess they're liars too ?
You guys really need to step up the quality control on your work. That alone is from just 1 thread on Stangnet!
Not to say some people arent happy. I mean, i would have been happy too had a professional not pointed out that i had a fire hazard under my hood :thumbsup:
Maybe you should go read that thread again, better yet. Dont. Seriously, dont do it. Go back to your r&d table and start working on a commercial fix for this BBK SSI intake you developed.
Im glad my efforts have set you on your way to refining your product.
Since you claim theres no warranty on the parts now, would there have been warranty if my car caught fire and burned to the ground.
Let me know! :thumbsup:
And as i said, keep posting, it fuels the fire that burns inside (and not under the hood of my car). We need to the good word about this intake and its quality issues.
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One guy there ACTUALLY mentioned a leak, that he fixed with different O-rings.
The other said he wasn't happy with the finish.
Another said he ground down the spacers to make it seal tighter. Never actually said he had a leak.
The other guy never metioned the rails at all, but instead said he just didn't like our products.
It is very possible that the crossover tube gouged the insides of the rails when MPW installed it the first time with no O-rings. That would aslo cause the O-rings to not seal when you eventually got them.
This is still installer error in my opinion. I mean c'mon, I have nearly a full page in the instructions on testing the rail kit for leaks BEFORE installing the upper.
It's not our fault that they didn't read the instructions. It's not our fault they put it together with no O-rings. It's not our fault.
We've shipped well over 500 SSI intakes.
If those are all of the negative comments, then I'd say that's not too bad.
You better make sure you inform your insurance agent (or whoever is controlling insurance in Canada) of all the mods you've got done to the car before you go burning it down. Otherwise you'll end up with a check for a 93 GT and none of the extras.
What are they going for these days $1,500-$4,500?
The other said he wasn't happy with the finish.
Another said he ground down the spacers to make it seal tighter. Never actually said he had a leak.
The other guy never metioned the rails at all, but instead said he just didn't like our products.
It is very possible that the crossover tube gouged the insides of the rails when MPW installed it the first time with no O-rings. That would aslo cause the O-rings to not seal when you eventually got them.
This is still installer error in my opinion. I mean c'mon, I have nearly a full page in the instructions on testing the rail kit for leaks BEFORE installing the upper.
It's not our fault that they didn't read the instructions. It's not our fault they put it together with no O-rings. It's not our fault.
We've shipped well over 500 SSI intakes.
If those are all of the negative comments, then I'd say that's not too bad.
You better make sure you inform your insurance agent (or whoever is controlling insurance in Canada) of all the mods you've got done to the car before you go burning it down. Otherwise you'll end up with a check for a 93 GT and none of the extras.
What are they going for these days $1,500-$4,500?
04-19-2007, 07:53 PM
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Don't think me unkind...
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Rep Power: 789 One guy there ACTUALLY mentioned a leak, that he fixed with different O-rings.
The other said he wasn't happy with the finish.
Another said he ground down the spacers to make it seal tighter. Never actually said he had a leak.
The other guy never metioned the rails at all, but instead said he just didn't like our products.
It is very possible that the crossover tube gouged the insides of the rails when MPW installed it the first time with no O-rings. That would aslo cause the O-rings to not seal when you eventually got them.
This is still installer error in my opinion. I mean c'mon, I have nearly a full page in the instructions on testing the rail kit for leaks BEFORE installing the upper.
It's not our fault that they didn't read the instructions. It's not our fault they put it together with no O-rings. It's not our fault.
We've shipped well over 500 SSI intakes.
If those are all of the negative comments, then I'd say that's not too bad.
You better make sure you inform your insurance agent (or whoever is controlling insurance in Canada) of all the mods you've got done to the car before you go burning it down. Otherwise you'll end up with a check for a 93 GT and none of the extras.
What are they going for these days $1,500-$4,500?
The other said he wasn't happy with the finish.
Another said he ground down the spacers to make it seal tighter. Never actually said he had a leak.
The other guy never metioned the rails at all, but instead said he just didn't like our products.
It is very possible that the crossover tube gouged the insides of the rails when MPW installed it the first time with no O-rings. That would aslo cause the O-rings to not seal when you eventually got them.
This is still installer error in my opinion. I mean c'mon, I have nearly a full page in the instructions on testing the rail kit for leaks BEFORE installing the upper.
It's not our fault that they didn't read the instructions. It's not our fault they put it together with no O-rings. It's not our fault.
We've shipped well over 500 SSI intakes.
If those are all of the negative comments, then I'd say that's not too bad.
You better make sure you inform your insurance agent (or whoever is controlling insurance in Canada) of all the mods you've got done to the car before you go burning it down. Otherwise you'll end up with a check for a 93 GT and none of the extras.
What are they going for these days $1,500-$4,500?
Id be interested to see out of 500 intakes shipped how many leak vs dont. I would hope that 99.9% are perfect.
So, MPW installed it wrong, Nicks installed it wrong ? Remember, even with your instructions on how to shim and the NEW o-rings your fuel rails still leaked!!!
Its possible many things happened to make me have to go through all this. I just think your attitude to the additional costs the consumer (me) was wrong.
Your unprofessional comment to this:
Originally Posted by t.o.93_GT View Post
No one seems to care it cost me an extra $300 bucks to fix this.
No one seems to care it cost me an extra $300 bucks to fix this.
Originally Posted by BRYAN ROGERS View Post
Custom labor can be expensive.
Custom labor can be expensive.
That was a big SCREW YOU to the customer (me again). I didn't install this kit.
But you're right, custom work is expensive to repair, especially for this improperly designed intake, but it pails in comparison to me having to replace the full cost of my car.
Ive already contacted my insurance company. I don't believe it will burn down now that i've spent the $300 repairing the faulty fuel rails your company provided.
I don't believe with my appraisal and current coverage would they have looked after me knowing that the cause of the fire was a BBK Performance product.
They may have paid me if my car caught on fire cause of your faulty fuel rails, but in all likely hood would have investigated the cause of the fire and went after BBK for damages.
Thats not the type of press i would want. I don't think i would want this internet press either. But hey, you're enjoying it, i paid $300 more of the intake, so im going to enjoy it. Its a huge party.
Anyhow...
A decent 93 gt with black interior, low km is going for $10,000+ .
Thanks for being concerned about my car burning down, its about time
BBK IS THE BEST, providing you don't buy their BBK SSI intake with leaky fuel rails.
