How Many Turbo Cars on TSR????
 

So, who is running a turbo on their car and what is your setup? I'm just curious to see who bought a kit or fabbed their own...... Speak up, and let's dream of some races in the springtime.
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I've got a VR6 GTI, that is going to be a full race car, with turbo. Garret T04, full headers, with 3 inch exhaust.
I had a 1984 Rabbit LS with a 2l 16v with a Garret T03, and a GN intercooler. My new street project is a 1983 Rabbit GTI that I got from BC. It's going to get a 2l 16v with a td04 turbo. Just a nice quick little car to drive.

Interesting.... I would love to get my hands on an 83-84 Rabbit GTI. I've been kinda-sorta looking for the last several years to find something with solid floors/decent body for dirt cheap. I wanted to build a mild 16v 1.8 and eventually slap a turbo on it.
I was part of a TV show this summer called War of The Wheels, it's been delayed but apparently is scheduled to go on air in January sometime. I was episode 4, and I believe episode 3 was Veedubs. One of their team members apparently had a Single Turbo VR6 Cabrio putting down about 570 wheel HP or so. Your car should boogie with the right fuel system and engine management. Any pics of the Rabbit?
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I've got what was emailed to me, but they are kind of dark. I'll get some better ones when I get my custom plates on it next month. I'm going to do up a new sig with the car and my plates. If you're going to do a swap into a rabbit, don't waste your time on the 1.8l 16v. The 1.8l 8v is a way better engine for torque and driveability. If you're going to swap, go the extra mile and get a 2l 16v out of a passat or gti. The 2l has over 135 hp and 145 ftlbs stock. And that's before you remove the power steering, a/c. After that you get over 150 on both. That's an excellent start in a 1900 lb car.

did you make your own manifold? i've been thinkin of a mk2 turbo 2L 16v setup, what kind of injectors? how much boost? dd?

If you're handy with welding and creative with piping it wouldnt cost you much to build a DIY setup. There are several places that sell cheap cast iron turbo manifolds for T3 turbos. You can source a .48/.63 T3 turbo from a 2.3 Ford with built in wastegate for dirt cheap. Make your own downpipe and cold side piping. I dunno how Veedubs are for fuel systems and how the flap/air sensor reacts to all the extra volume, but if someone can help you with that aspect of it the rest is pretty simple. I also think it best to not intercool the setup, too pricey. Only reason I added an IC is because it was free :D. I'm sure with 7-8lbs of boost, good fuel system, and 3" exhaust you should see 60-80hp increase.
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at this stage of the game, after blowers, turbos and a few shops i can only recomend one guy, and he works out of his own shop. Amazing work, results to boot. No cutting corner like many other places.
I personallywouldnt go elsewhere now.

If you can weld, and your work is quality, by all means do it and save a ton! :veryhappy

Some of us arent fortunate with that trade skill......

Actually the blue Cabrio was a stock swapped 1.8T with a bigger turbo and Revo tuning and was putting down over 300WHP.

It ran a best of 12.9 with an open diff and semi-slipping clutch. Which is really good for a Cabrio which is really heavy and has a lot of drag because of the roof.

The owner of the car is actually of the owners of SEM (Vdub shop).

Nuespeed used to sell injectors. Various psi, and flow rates. I'll have to have a look at what I used. I did not make my own manifold, as I can't weld. At the track I ran up to 25 psi. The engine internals were not even close to stock, with a P and P'ed head, and bracing, and knifedgeing, and balancing done to the bottom end. I ran a 278/288 cam set. 2.5" exhaust with Hooker street performance muffler. I had a GN intercooler, and it's worth it to run an intercooler if you're over 10 psi of boost. I also had a windage tray, but I think that was just a weak moment with a Nuespeed catalog. I don't think it actually did anything. I also had the VW oil pan from Nuespeed, that has cooling fins.

track car? was it actually 1900lb with full interior? or gutted? what about suspension?...thinkin of a cheap grassroots project..

It had 4 race seats, with lightweight carpet, and no underliner. The car and engine was built to run IDRC super street, but they changed the rules on me. Nothing older than 1988. So I threw the 3 extra seats in it, and had the cage modded so people could get in the back. Then I drove it on the street for 4 years. It was pretty much undriveable in any weather other than a nice clear sunny, dry day. Any moisture, and I was better off walking. I beleive the actual weight was 1974 lbs. But that's what you get when you strip a Rabbit, and use light seats and no underliner.
Neuspeed used to offer a rabbit suspension package. I didn't bother with the entire kit, as it came with a front sway bar. Front sway bars on track cars are a waste of time. Anyone who autocrosses, pulls it off. I ran Sofsports, and Bilstein adjustables. Good combo for street, strip and autocross. BTW, if you decide on a rabbit project, don't waste your money on a rear sway bar. Just have someone weld a pipe between the rear wheels. It conects the U sections of the rear axle to create a square, and will work way better than a sway bar, and only costs you $20 vs 200 for the sway bar.

were you running race gas? or just pump? would the motor build itself be more than $5k? what ecu/ mapping?

94 octane with booster. The engine only had a 8.5 to 1 compression ratio, due to the turbo. As for ECU, I used a stock CIS-e system from a 1994 passat, along with a boost adjustable FPR. The entire engine build cost me about $9000. Maybe a little more than that, but I got alot of parts second hand, and the turbo came from a junkyard. Most of the cash went into the block and head, because I can't machine stuff myself. Oh and holley high volume fuel pump, with bigger lines. I'll be honest that I don't remember what size the lines were, but I still have the scars from bending them and installing them.

what kind of work needs to be done to the motor to get it prepped for slapping on a turbo? what are the approx. costs to put down 250whp reliably less than 10psi. where you get your injectors?

Nuespeed sells good sets of high flow injectors. If you're only looking for about 250 hp, I wouldn't bother with the bottom end, just get the head ported and polished for flow. And just for a little extra, get an intercooler. It's worth it. You can generally find a GN intercooler, or a 80's Regal turbo, they are the same, in a junkyard for $50. Finding one can be a pain, but they are way cheaper than a custom one. And the flow through them is good. As for cams, for 250 hp street, i wouldn't go much bigger than 270/276, with a 396 lift. That combo will keep your idle, and your gas mileage fairly decent, and allow for lots of flow through the head. The biggest improvement you can do to a turbo engine is a BIG exhaust. I don't mean a fart can POS muffler, I'm talking about minimum 2 inch full exhaust, and if your car came with a cat, get a high flow cat, so it is still legal. The cat isn't going to make any kind of noticable difference, and will save you getting a huge ticket for not having it. For muffler, I recommend Hooker street performance, with 2" inlet and outlet. This muffler is more than quiet enough with a turbo motor.

1998 pontic sunfire GT. T3/04e turbo setup, completely custom. 14psi run in 2005.

20psi in 2006 on a fully built motor.

If you have any questions, just ask. :)

-Chris-

My questions are:
Do you have any pics?
And how fast is it? :)
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Here's a quick picture:

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As for how fast - the car never ran to its full potential this year, (Never had a chance, had a bit of bad luck), and I never got it on a dyno which really ticks me off.

Next year on 20psi she should be in the range of 375 or so WHP.

And yeah the turbo's on the back of the engine you just can't see it really. I have pics of it when I was installing it. :)

-Chris-

b16 turbo
 

hey guys,

Im running a second gen b16 with a t3/t4 turbo, 550 injectors with custom intercooler piping and intercooler from metalex. This kit was custom fabricated for my car. The car is currently running at 9psi everyday. Only brought the car to 12psi a couple times and thats about it for now. I currently have a Gsr block thats being sleeved and having new rods and pistons putting in it. To mate with the gsr block I have a second gen b16 head thats being fully ported, and a pair of comp turbo cams and crower valve springs and retainer set put in it. As for fuel management. Not sure what i am gonna run yet.. still shopping around for some quality stuff. I'm looking to make somewhere between 325-375whp. The margin is soo big because i want to see how bad the traction is going to be. haha If you guys have any suggestions on what kinda managment i should use, i'm all ears!!

have a good one!!

Damn man, that is one clean engine bay. :thumbsup

no offense but its gotta suck when you get smoked by a sunfire haha

Anythings better than losing to a Honda.

^^ Yes, because Honda's are such bad vehicles.

Dude, joke.

Exactly why I've built it... nobody expects it... and nobody wants to admit to losing to it. No matter HOW much power I put into this car I will always be the underdog because of the body and frame around the engine.

And I'm ok with that. :D

-Chris-

3.0L I6
Garrett GT4082
Custom tubular T4 manifold
50mm HK$ replica ext. wastegate
4"diaX9" K&n air filter
Denso 680cc inj.
255lph walbro
Custom fuel lines with Earls filter
24"X12"X3" IC
Custom cold/hot IC piping
Custom 3" turbo back exhaust
ZT-2 wideband datalog
MAFT-PRO with map/iat sensor
Lots more...

Those are the important mods I suppose.
Custom = made by me.

Shooting for 500whp on pump gas and god knows how much on race gas and 30psi... :veryhappy

I like the sunfire, more pics? I want to show my brother. Thanks.

Ok, sorry about that then.

cool. i have always wanted to throw a 2.2L turbo from a daytona into a k car and boost the outta it for that same purpose.

I've got a 93 Civic Si Hatch with a boosted GSR...

nothing special...
-t3/t04 turbo
-440cc injectors
-custom shorty exhaust manifold
-3" exhaust
-turbosmart wastegate & BOV
-custom piping
-30x12x3.5" IC
-walboro 255lph fuel pump
-custom chip by allmotormark for tuning...
-etc etc etc (the typical b-series setup...)

...all on a stock block (blah)...

made 256whp at 7 psi... goin for a number closer to 300whp for spring...


Stephanie <3

sweetpsi, is it black :dunno:

yup... with a (stupid) body kit... lol...

Oh please... talk about being the underdog when you're driving a Festiva, the only car on the earth that is worse then a J-body (when stock). Mine has one of those spinning exhaust things (which is getting larger over the winter) and is riding on 22-way adjustable race coil overs... it has a bunch of other too but I won't go into detail. I'm going to be installing the stand alone engine computer in the next few weeks and beginning fabrication of the new stainless steel tubular manifold for the new turbo soon after that. I plan to run well into the 16's. :knock_tee

i own a 98 honda civic si..

i have my kit lying in my room.. so far is a t25, hf mani, 26x7x3 IC, tuned with uberdata. Gunning for 220whp at 12psi on my stock d16y8.. but I am soon to be purchasing a gt28r that i will swap into place of the t25 (same housings) and build the block and attempt to hit the 300whp mark

Turbo from factory. 1987 toyota supra turbo. proud owner here.

Subaru Legacy GT, stock turbo bumped to 18 psi

97' integra GSR, 14b turbo, gonna tune it with an SAFC and EGT (nothing fancy), gonna be ready next month, probably only gonna run about 7-8 pounds since its a stock block. still should be pretyy nice, the IC isnt as big as the other guy's but still alright. as long as i beat G35's (and i know i will) i'm happy.

Turbo owner checking in

:O :thumbsup:
We definately have to go cruising.

Sure man im up for a cruise. You going to the tsr meet this friday?

Turbo Daytona here!

:fing02:

2005 pictures 192.mpg