If you could have any new car, what would it be?
#46
Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
too bad the M5 would make it look like a Fiat 500 on a track
it is what it is, but chrysler has come a long way
#49
Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
what a
(yes, 90% of track cars in most series are rwd, and i have nothing against them....just a preference )
#50
Originally Posted by ricernoob
...i want to do more than go straight with my car. and as for the rwd oversteer on track, well, not everybody wants it.
(yes, 90% of track cars in most series are rwd, and i have nothing against them....just a preference )
(yes, 90% of track cars in most series are rwd, and i have nothing against them....just a preference )
and not only are 90% of the track cars in most series RWD, ALL true sports cars are RWD or AWD.
I'm not trying to make u change your mind, but good lord to choose FWD over RWD/AWD u'd have to be a
#51
Originally Posted by ricernoob
...i want to do more than go straight with my car. and as for the rwd oversteer on track, well, not everybody wants it.
(yes, 90% of track cars in most series are rwd, and i have nothing against them....just a preference )
(yes, 90% of track cars in most series are rwd, and i have nothing against them....just a preference )
But curiosity strikes me here, where did you get 2200 lbs? I was under the impression they're about 2800 lbs stock. That's a lot of weight savings :P
#52
Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
I'd get the 330i w/ the M package
i built this car on bmw.ca:
Exterior:
Interior:
Pretty much fully loaded:
Total MSRP $59,585 (CDN)
Colours & Wheels
Anthracite w/Cloth Laser Anthracite - Alcantara Combination
Black Alu Cube Trim
18" M Double Spoke Alloy Wheels - 135 M
Packages & Options
6-Speed Manual Transmission STD
Front seats, 6-way manually adjustable STD
Navigation Package $2,900
Electric Rear Sunshade $325
Through Load w/Ski Bag $660
Park Distance Control (rear) $450
Harman Kardon Sound System $950
Standard Features
Interior
Anthracite roof liner
Armrest, centre front (with storage)
Armrest, centre rear
Automatic air conditioning with microfilter
Automatic air recirculation function
Auto Dimming Mirror
BMW Ambiance lighting
Central lock switch
Door entry sills with chrome inserts
Front seatback storage nets
Front seats, 8-way manually adjustable
Fully finished trunk with drop-down tool kit
Glass sunroof, electrically adjustable
Heated front seats, 3 stage
Interior electric trunk release
Leather steering wheel (3 spoke) & shift ****
Locking illuminated glovebox with take-out flashlight
M Multi-function Alcantara Sport steering wheel incl. cruise control
Multi-purpose centre console storage with cupholders
Prewiring for integrated universal garage door opener
Sport seats
Sun visors with vanity mirrors, incl. slide cover
Tilt/telescopic steering wheel column
Window lifts electric, anti-trap and comfort open/close/close
Technical
Inline 6-cylinder engine, 24 valves, 3.0 L, 235hp
6-speed manual transmission
Double VANOS "steplessly" variable valve timing
Dual resonance intake system
Electronically controlled engine cooling
Front and rear anti-roll (stabilizer) bars
Fully electronic "drive-by-wire" throttle system
Inner vented disc brakes, front & rear
Engine-speed sensitive power steering
Self-adjusting clutch (SAC)
Sport suspension II calibration
Electronic brake force distribution (EBD)
Warranty
New Car Limited Warranty 4 years or 80,000 km
Limited Emission Control Warranty Component 4 years or 80,000 km
Specific Control Devices 8 years or 130,000 km
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 12 years / Unlimited kms
Roadside Assistance Service 4 years / Unlimited kms
No-charge Scheduled Maintenance 3 years or 60,000km
Performance
Top speed, electronically limited (km/h) 210
Acceleration 0-100 km/h (sec.) 6.4
Active Safety
Adaptive brakelights
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Automatic Headlamps
Automatic Stability Control + Traction (ASC+T)
Cornering Brake Control (CBC)
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC III)
Dynamic Brake Control (DBC), included in DSC III
Halogen free-form foglights
Headlight high-pressure washer system
Exterior mirrors, electrically adjustable
Heated windshield washer jets and exterior mirrors
Windshield wipers, speed sensitive with rain sensor
Xenon headlights, low and high-beam (Bi-xenon)
Car/Key Memory with follow-me-home function
Passive Safety
Battery Safety Terminal (BST)
Collapsible tube crash technology
Crash sensor (incl. fuel cutoff, lights on, door unlock)
Front airbags for driver and front passenger
Side thorax airbags for driver and front passenger
HPS head airbag system driver and front passenger
SMART airbag deployment system
Front seatbelt height adjustment
Fully integrated road safety technology (FIRST)
Interlocking door anchoring system
Rear headrests (3), outer positions adjustable
Rear centre 3-point safety belt
Safety belt force limiters
Safety belt pyrotechnical tensioning system front
Side impact protection door reinforcements
Third brakelight integrated into rear window
i built this car on bmw.ca:
Exterior:
Interior:
Pretty much fully loaded:
Total MSRP $59,585 (CDN)
Colours & Wheels
Anthracite w/Cloth Laser Anthracite - Alcantara Combination
Black Alu Cube Trim
18" M Double Spoke Alloy Wheels - 135 M
Packages & Options
6-Speed Manual Transmission STD
Front seats, 6-way manually adjustable STD
Navigation Package $2,900
Electric Rear Sunshade $325
Through Load w/Ski Bag $660
Park Distance Control (rear) $450
Harman Kardon Sound System $950
Standard Features
Interior
Anthracite roof liner
Armrest, centre front (with storage)
Armrest, centre rear
Automatic air conditioning with microfilter
Automatic air recirculation function
Auto Dimming Mirror
BMW Ambiance lighting
Central lock switch
Door entry sills with chrome inserts
Front seatback storage nets
Front seats, 8-way manually adjustable
Fully finished trunk with drop-down tool kit
Glass sunroof, electrically adjustable
Heated front seats, 3 stage
Interior electric trunk release
Leather steering wheel (3 spoke) & shift ****
Locking illuminated glovebox with take-out flashlight
M Multi-function Alcantara Sport steering wheel incl. cruise control
Multi-purpose centre console storage with cupholders
Prewiring for integrated universal garage door opener
Sport seats
Sun visors with vanity mirrors, incl. slide cover
Tilt/telescopic steering wheel column
Window lifts electric, anti-trap and comfort open/close/close
Technical
Inline 6-cylinder engine, 24 valves, 3.0 L, 235hp
6-speed manual transmission
Double VANOS "steplessly" variable valve timing
Dual resonance intake system
Electronically controlled engine cooling
Front and rear anti-roll (stabilizer) bars
Fully electronic "drive-by-wire" throttle system
Inner vented disc brakes, front & rear
Engine-speed sensitive power steering
Self-adjusting clutch (SAC)
Sport suspension II calibration
Electronic brake force distribution (EBD)
Warranty
New Car Limited Warranty 4 years or 80,000 km
Limited Emission Control Warranty Component 4 years or 80,000 km
Specific Control Devices 8 years or 130,000 km
Limited Rust Perforation Warranty 12 years / Unlimited kms
Roadside Assistance Service 4 years / Unlimited kms
No-charge Scheduled Maintenance 3 years or 60,000km
Performance
Top speed, electronically limited (km/h) 210
Acceleration 0-100 km/h (sec.) 6.4
Active Safety
Adaptive brakelights
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Automatic Headlamps
Automatic Stability Control + Traction (ASC+T)
Cornering Brake Control (CBC)
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC III)
Dynamic Brake Control (DBC), included in DSC III
Halogen free-form foglights
Headlight high-pressure washer system
Exterior mirrors, electrically adjustable
Heated windshield washer jets and exterior mirrors
Windshield wipers, speed sensitive with rain sensor
Xenon headlights, low and high-beam (Bi-xenon)
Car/Key Memory with follow-me-home function
Passive Safety
Battery Safety Terminal (BST)
Collapsible tube crash technology
Crash sensor (incl. fuel cutoff, lights on, door unlock)
Front airbags for driver and front passenger
Side thorax airbags for driver and front passenger
HPS head airbag system driver and front passenger
SMART airbag deployment system
Front seatbelt height adjustment
Fully integrated road safety technology (FIRST)
Interlocking door anchoring system
Rear headrests (3), outer positions adjustable
Rear centre 3-point safety belt
Safety belt force limiters
Safety belt pyrotechnical tensioning system front
Side impact protection door reinforcements
Third brakelight integrated into rear window
NOTORIOUS VR all i can say is that it isnt worth the money. My friend got that car exactly, black on black, M package, M rims and fully loaded. A G35 is a definatly better buy for the money. Im my mind for the money i would buy spomething else
#54
Originally Posted by midnighter
I dunno, with 280 hp and FWD you'd have slight traction issues in a straight line, I wouldn't even think of putting that thing around a corner.
But curiosity strikes me here, where did you get 2200 lbs? I was under the impression they're about 2800 lbs stock. That's a lot of weight savings :P
But curiosity strikes me here, where did you get 2200 lbs? I was under the impression they're about 2800 lbs stock. That's a lot of weight savings :P
as for traction, we're not talking about insane torque here and even the hp numbers come up later...
also, come to think of it, a 330ci is a pretty good idea too. i absolutely love those cars
#55
Originally Posted by General
NOTORIOUS VR all i can say is that it isnt worth the money. My friend got that car exactly, black on black, M package, M rims and fully loaded. A G35 is a definatly better buy for the money. Im my mind for the money i would buy spomething else
And personally I think so as well... I've had the chance to drive my buddies G35 coupe for a while... 6 spd, brembo's, 18's, etc... didn't like the way it drove. It was a nice car styling wise, but it had quite a few problems with in a very short period of time.
Although I'd like to hear why you think the G35 is better then the 330? Please don't mention the price difference, that shouldn't be an issue since we all know Euro cars are more then others even if you think it's not worth it.
#56
Originally Posted by tom240
i stick with my choice of 350z, but i'll be more specific: 35th Anniversary Edition. its a mix of the performance of the track pack (brembos, zero-lift Aerodynamics, ect..) with the luxuries of the touring model (leather, navigation, ect..) into one package... its available in canada and under 60k cdn after taxes and all.... oh and i'd get it in the yellow which is only available on hte 35th anniversary edition. :thumbsup
#58
Originally Posted by ricernoob
you're absolutely right. they're around 2700lbs stock. i think 500 can be lost (or close enough) fairly easily and the car still be driveable...
as for traction, we're not talking about insane torque here and even the hp numbers come up later...
also, come to think of it, a 330ci is a pretty good idea too. i absolutely love those cars
as for traction, we're not talking about insane torque here and even the hp numbers come up later...
also, come to think of it, a 330ci is a pretty good idea too. i absolutely love those cars
lol so let me get this straight. you would buy a brand new rsx, because you "like fwd", and now youre saying you would gut it and do some significant weight savings...? i dont get it!? the point of having 60k is so you can stop being a cheap in ricer that needs to cut everything out his 200hp car to stay quick, and buy a proper in car right out of the dealer, enjoying all the comforts of a daily driver, like an interior, heating, and still be fast enough to put a smile on your face.
is that how you would use the 60k? lol!
wow, in ricers, even if theyre given a lump sum of cash, they still in pick rice over a proper in car, and think about doing it up.. :supergay:
Last edited by dj_jake; 04-15-2005 at 10:21 AM.
#60
Originally Posted by goneinsixtyseconds
i'm not a big fan of the 35th anniversary edition, it's essentially the track pack 350z (what i have) but with a leather interior, but in order for them to put in that leather interior, they got rid of the rays engineering rims and replaced them with some no name 18's. everyone knows that rays rims are probably 10x better than regular aluminum rims, so i think the trade off isn't worth it ... as for engine work, a +13 hp improvement is nothing significant, all they did was some minor cam adjustments or something and rebadge it as a "35th anniversary" edition
i know, i love those rays rims :thumbsup but i really like the 35th AE rims too, even if they are no name. i think they match the styling of the car, and i like them enough that i wouldnt mind the trade off for leather, navigation, and all the small little extras with the 35th anniversary edition (over the track). plus i think it looks so nice in yellow which is only available on hte 35th AE.
Last edited by tom240; 04-15-2005 at 06:37 PM.