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Spam Trap Account 12-06-2003 02:10 PM

03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
I
can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
and
is pretty annoying.


'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 02:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Spam Trap Account wrote:
>
> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
> I
> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
> and
> is pretty annoying.

---------------------------------
Mr. Trap,

It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.

If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(

'Curly'

---------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 02:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Spam Trap Account wrote:
>
> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
> I
> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
> and
> is pretty annoying.

---------------------------------
Mr. Trap,

It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.

If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(

'Curly'

---------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 02:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Spam Trap Account wrote:
>
> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
> I
> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
> and
> is pretty annoying.

---------------------------------
Mr. Trap,

It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.

If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(

'Curly'

---------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 02:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Spam Trap Account wrote:
>
> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
> I
> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
> and
> is pretty annoying.

---------------------------------
Mr. Trap,

It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.

If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(

'Curly'

---------------

Dave Kelsen 12-06-2003 06:36 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:

> Spam Trap Account wrote:
>>
>> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
>> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
>> I
>> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
>> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
>> and
>> is pretty annoying.

> ---------------------------------
> Mr. Trap,
>
> It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
> warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
> what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.
>
> If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
> see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
> lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ---------------


Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
something?


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


Dave Kelsen 12-06-2003 06:36 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:

> Spam Trap Account wrote:
>>
>> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
>> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
>> I
>> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
>> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
>> and
>> is pretty annoying.

> ---------------------------------
> Mr. Trap,
>
> It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
> warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
> what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.
>
> If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
> see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
> lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ---------------


Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
something?


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


Dave Kelsen 12-06-2003 06:36 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:

> Spam Trap Account wrote:
>>
>> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
>> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
>> I
>> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
>> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
>> and
>> is pretty annoying.

> ---------------------------------
> Mr. Trap,
>
> It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
> warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
> what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.
>
> If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
> see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
> lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ---------------


Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
something?


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


Dave Kelsen 12-06-2003 06:36 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:

> Spam Trap Account wrote:
>>
>> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
>> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing
>> I
>> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it
>> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time
>> and
>> is pretty annoying.

> ---------------------------------
> Mr. Trap,
>
> It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your
> warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do
> what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around.
>
> If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and
> see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a
> lame thing in their owner's manual. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ---------------


Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
something?


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 09:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
> something?
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


-----------------------
Dave,

As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank
is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty
cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it
on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then
start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to
mention an unsound environmental practice.

Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole
cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to
be on the evening news.

I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't
know anything about that part.

I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil
our fun, really. :-(

'Curly'

P.S. Love your sig file
--------------------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 09:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
> something?
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


-----------------------
Dave,

As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank
is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty
cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it
on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then
start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to
mention an unsound environmental practice.

Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole
cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to
be on the evening news.

I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't
know anything about that part.

I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil
our fun, really. :-(

'Curly'

P.S. Love your sig file
--------------------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 09:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
> something?
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


-----------------------
Dave,

As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank
is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty
cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it
on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then
start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to
mention an unsound environmental practice.

Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole
cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to
be on the evening news.

I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't
know anything about that part.

I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil
our fun, really. :-(

'Curly'

P.S. Love your sig file
--------------------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-06-2003 09:44 PM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the
> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding
> something?
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen
> --
> All things being equal, fat people use more soap.


-----------------------
Dave,

As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank
is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty
cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it
on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then
start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to
mention an unsound environmental practice.

Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole
cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to
be on the evening news.

I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't
know anything about that part.

I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil
our fun, really. :-(

'Curly'

P.S. Love your sig file
--------------------------

Brian Smith 12-07-2003 06:20 AM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FD2941A.67431959@interbaun.com...
>
> As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank
> is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty
> cold.


This is true, except on a cold day, when the product coming out of the
ground is actually warmer than the above ground temperature.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion




Brian Smith 12-07-2003 06:20 AM

Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FD2941A.67431959@interbaun.com...
>
> As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank
> is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty
> cold.


This is true, except on a cold day, when the product coming out of the
ground is actually warmer than the above ground temperature.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion





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