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'03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
I just had my first oil change at the dealer. I had looked at the factory
filter before the work was done. The new filter is blue like the old one, but the diameter looks much smaller...this sound right? Anyone have the part # it should be? |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
Nobody wrote:
> > I just had my first oil change at the dealer. I had looked at the factory > filter before the work was done. The new filter is blue like the old one, > but the diameter looks much smaller...this sound right? > Yes, according to a dealer parts tech I spoke with recently, Honda has superseded the old filters with the newer smaller ones. The mounting flange is the same. However, this parts tech was uncertain if the filter media had changed or just the size of the can. It's likely that both have changed. One thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer. Eric |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
Nobody wrote:
> > I just had my first oil change at the dealer. I had looked at the factory > filter before the work was done. The new filter is blue like the old one, > but the diameter looks much smaller...this sound right? > Yes, according to a dealer parts tech I spoke with recently, Honda has superseded the old filters with the newer smaller ones. The mounting flange is the same. However, this parts tech was uncertain if the filter media had changed or just the size of the can. It's likely that both have changed. One thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer. Eric |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F53E0C2.2B4D497C@spam.now>...
> Nobody wrote: One > thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new > smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in > USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that > the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer. I've suspected this for some time. The much superior filter will be phased out in favor of the cardboard specials. Thanks, but I'd use a Hastings LF-402 instead. --- Bror Jace |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F53E0C2.2B4D497C@spam.now>...
> Nobody wrote: One > thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new > smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in > USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that > the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer. I've suspected this for some time. The much superior filter will be phased out in favor of the cardboard specials. Thanks, but I'd use a Hastings LF-402 instead. --- Bror Jace |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
If you want ..
to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine problems. to make your engine oil cleaner. to reduce engine wear and friction. to extend your engine and transmission life. then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. http://www.turbo-mag.ca "Bror Jace" <brorjace@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d1373663.0309021836.6fe0fa44@posting.google.c om... > Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F53E0C2.2B4D497C@spam.now>... > > Nobody wrote: > One > > thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new > > smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in > > USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that > > the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer. > > > I've suspected this for some time. The much superior filter will be > phased out in favor of the cardboard specials. > > Thanks, but I'd use a Hastings LF-402 instead. > > --- Bror Jace |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
If you want ..
to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine problems. to make your engine oil cleaner. to reduce engine wear and friction. to extend your engine and transmission life. then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. http://www.turbo-mag.ca "Bror Jace" <brorjace@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d1373663.0309021836.6fe0fa44@posting.google.c om... > Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F53E0C2.2B4D497C@spam.now>... > > Nobody wrote: > One > > thing of interest that he did mention to me was that the supplier for the new > > smaller filters was Fram (made in Canada) and that the Filtech filters (made in > > USA) will not be available in the smaller size. He also seemed doubtful that > > the older style Filtech filters would continue to be available for much longer. > > > I've suspected this for some time. The much superior filter will be > phased out in favor of the cardboard specials. > > Thanks, but I'd use a Hastings LF-402 instead. > > --- Bror Jace |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
Yes this is normal. Honda jsut changed oil filters and went to the smaller
one acros the models. Dont be alarmed, it ahs the same quality as the other filter but in a smaller package. "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Xns93E71C31EB00XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167 ... > I just had my first oil change at the dealer. I had looked at the factory > filter before the work was done. The new filter is blue like the old one, > but the diameter looks much smaller...this sound right? > > Anyone have the part # it should be? |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
Yes this is normal. Honda jsut changed oil filters and went to the smaller
one acros the models. Dont be alarmed, it ahs the same quality as the other filter but in a smaller package. "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Xns93E71C31EB00XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167 ... > I just had my first oil change at the dealer. I had looked at the factory > filter before the work was done. The new filter is blue like the old one, > but the diameter looks much smaller...this sound right? > > Anyone have the part # it should be? |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>...
> If you want .. > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > problems. > to make your engine oil cleaner. > to reduce engine wear and friction. > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth it. Chip |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>...
> If you want .. > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > problems. > to make your engine oil cleaner. > to reduce engine wear and friction. > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth it. Chip |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>...
> If you want .. > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > problems. > to make your engine oil cleaner. > to reduce engine wear and friction. > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth it. Chip |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>...
> If you want .. > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > problems. > to make your engine oil cleaner. > to reduce engine wear and friction. > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth it. Chip |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > If you want .. > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > problems. > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth it. > > Chip Thank you for your opinoins... Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, stuck/broken piston rings etc... Let's see some of the used oil analysis; ----------------------------------------- 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... 80% city/20% highway driving Miles on engine, 26000 miles on oil, 7200 No makeup oil added OEM paper air filter SDF-57 oil filter Wear Metals Fe, 21 ppm Cr, 0 ppm Pb, 4 ppm Cu, 8 ppm Sn, 1 ppm Al, 9 ppm Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm ------------------------------------------ 1999 Honda Civic 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual 0w30 Castrol Syntec 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine No fuel or oil additives NAPA Gold oil filter OEM air filter Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) Average of 366 miles per week No top up oil Oil capacity is 4.2 qts This car is driven mostly on the highway (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 8000 miles 5500 miles .. Iron 19 14 Lead 10 4.5 Aluminum 5.2 2.5 Copper 3.8 3.0 Silicon 8 11 Nickel 0.1 0 Chromium 3 0.8 Titanium 0.1 0 Tin 0.2 0 Silver 0.4 0.2 Vanadium 0.2 0 Potassium 0 0 ------------------------------------------ Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine parts. Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy don't have enough strength, also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength with high temperature from engine block and oil. Try to use the oil filter magnet after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, then you'll see what is in it for sure. Simply, It works. BE. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > If you want .. > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > problems. > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth it. > > Chip Thank you for your opinoins... Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, stuck/broken piston rings etc... Let's see some of the used oil analysis; ----------------------------------------- 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... 80% city/20% highway driving Miles on engine, 26000 miles on oil, 7200 No makeup oil added OEM paper air filter SDF-57 oil filter Wear Metals Fe, 21 ppm Cr, 0 ppm Pb, 4 ppm Cu, 8 ppm Sn, 1 ppm Al, 9 ppm Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm ------------------------------------------ 1999 Honda Civic 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual 0w30 Castrol Syntec 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine No fuel or oil additives NAPA Gold oil filter OEM air filter Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) Average of 366 miles per week No top up oil Oil capacity is 4.2 qts This car is driven mostly on the highway (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 8000 miles 5500 miles .. Iron 19 14 Lead 10 4.5 Aluminum 5.2 2.5 Copper 3.8 3.0 Silicon 8 11 Nickel 0.1 0 Chromium 3 0.8 Titanium 0.1 0 Tin 0.2 0 Silver 0.4 0.2 Vanadium 0.2 0 Potassium 0 0 ------------------------------------------ Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine parts. Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy don't have enough strength, also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength with high temperature from engine block and oil. Try to use the oil filter magnet after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, then you'll see what is in it for sure. Simply, It works. BE. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<qqydnbZLxOC1x8WiU-KYgw@magma.ca>...
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > What are the > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To quote your words, Let's see some of the used oil analysisis with the Magnet as a comparison. Are you saying the filter normally passes microscopic iron particles? Most probably the iron particles will be trapped in the filter. Is your analysis sample from the oil pan or the filter? |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<qqydnbZLxOC1x8WiU-KYgw@magma.ca>...
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > What are the > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To quote your words, Let's see some of the used oil analysisis with the Magnet as a comparison. Are you saying the filter normally passes microscopic iron particles? Most probably the iron particles will be trapped in the filter. Is your analysis sample from the oil pan or the filter? |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Hi,
My understanding is engine wear mostly occurs when you start engine (particularly in COLD) There is such a thing like oil primer. You install an electric driven pump which will circulate oil before you start engine. The first few seconds until the oil starts circulating after engine starts running is the damaging time. But no matter what, regualr oil/filter change will go a long way. Tony BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > >>"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > >>>If you want .. >>>to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine >>>problems. >>>to make your engine oil cleaner. >>>to reduce engine wear and friction. >>>to extend your engine and transmission life. >>> >>>then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. >>>http://www.turbo-mag.ca >>> >> >> >> 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > >> Chip > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Hi,
My understanding is engine wear mostly occurs when you start engine (particularly in COLD) There is such a thing like oil primer. You install an electric driven pump which will circulate oil before you start engine. The first few seconds until the oil starts circulating after engine starts running is the damaging time. But no matter what, regualr oil/filter change will go a long way. Tony BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > >>"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > >>>If you want .. >>>to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine >>>problems. >>>to make your engine oil cleaner. >>>to reduce engine wear and friction. >>>to extend your engine and transmission life. >>> >>>then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. >>>http://www.turbo-mag.ca >>> >> >> >> 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > >> Chip > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"marvin shostack" <marvinshos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bea09189.0309050747.77be72f3@posting.google.c om... > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<qqydnbZLxOC1x8WiU-KYgw@magma.ca>... > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > What are the > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To quote your words, Let's see some of the used oil analysisis with > the Magnet as a comparison. Are you saying the filter normally passes > microscopic iron particles? Most probably the iron particles will be > trapped in the filter. Is your analysis sample from the oil pan or the > filter? Thanks for your opinion. Those used oil analyses I mentioned was found at an internet forum talking about their oil analysis result without any oil filter magnets. I quoted them in order to say that engines generate plenty of magnetic metal, not only Aluminium 99%. People send their oil samples from the oil pan to the analysis laboratory. Pass? Yes, it does. Filters let microscopic particles pass naturally. Oil filters are made to catch particles normally larger than 10 ~ 40 microns range depending on the model and make. Oil filter manufacturers certainly CAN make finer paper filter to catch all the micro particles. But they DON'T and CAN'T. Because making those filter will severely restrict the engine's oil flow and pressure and will make another big problems (oil starvation and engine failure). Therefore micro abrasive particles continue its circulation with the oil, passing between piston rings and cylinder walls as well as through all the softer materials of bearings, valve train, timing gears and oil pump. They scratch and grind into the parts and generate more particles, thereby causing major engine wear result in Excessive oil consumption, Abnormal engine noise, Performance problems, Oil pressure, Abnormal operating temperatures or Stuck/broken piston rings. Finally, a couple of hundreds to thousands will be payable to rebuilt. BE. www.turbo-mag.ca |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"marvin shostack" <marvinshos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bea09189.0309050747.77be72f3@posting.google.c om... > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message news:<qqydnbZLxOC1x8WiU-KYgw@magma.ca>... > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > What are the > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To quote your words, Let's see some of the used oil analysisis with > the Magnet as a comparison. Are you saying the filter normally passes > microscopic iron particles? Most probably the iron particles will be > trapped in the filter. Is your analysis sample from the oil pan or the > filter? Thanks for your opinion. Those used oil analyses I mentioned was found at an internet forum talking about their oil analysis result without any oil filter magnets. I quoted them in order to say that engines generate plenty of magnetic metal, not only Aluminium 99%. People send their oil samples from the oil pan to the analysis laboratory. Pass? Yes, it does. Filters let microscopic particles pass naturally. Oil filters are made to catch particles normally larger than 10 ~ 40 microns range depending on the model and make. Oil filter manufacturers certainly CAN make finer paper filter to catch all the micro particles. But they DON'T and CAN'T. Because making those filter will severely restrict the engine's oil flow and pressure and will make another big problems (oil starvation and engine failure). Therefore micro abrasive particles continue its circulation with the oil, passing between piston rings and cylinder walls as well as through all the softer materials of bearings, valve train, timing gears and oil pump. They scratch and grind into the parts and generate more particles, thereby causing major engine wear result in Excessive oil consumption, Abnormal engine noise, Performance problems, Oil pressure, Abnormal operating temperatures or Stuck/broken piston rings. Finally, a couple of hundreds to thousands will be payable to rebuilt. BE. www.turbo-mag.ca |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Yes, Engine wear happens when engine runs
without oil pressure(dry/cold start) but, also with contaminated oil. The preoiler would be a good idea for a pleasure driven car that might only get driven on weekends in cold weather, However, preoiler costs $500 easy. and, installation and maintenance are another costs and hassles. and, it's not portable to a new car. Regular oil/filter change will go a long way for some, but not for the others. BE. "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1Wa6b.4586$J6.4055@pd7tw3no... > Hi, > My understanding is engine wear mostly occurs when you start engine > (particularly in COLD) There is such a thing like oil primer. > You install an electric driven pump which will circulate oil before > you start engine. The first few seconds until the oil starts circulating > after engine starts running is the damaging time. > But no matter what, regualr oil/filter change will go a long way. > Tony > > BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > >>"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > >>>If you want .. > >>>to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > >>>problems. > >>>to make your engine oil cleaner. > >>>to reduce engine wear and friction. > >>>to extend your engine and transmission life. > >>> > >>>then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > >>>http://www.turbo-mag.ca > >>> > >> > >> > >> 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > > > it. > > > >> Chip > > > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
Yes, Engine wear happens when engine runs
without oil pressure(dry/cold start) but, also with contaminated oil. The preoiler would be a good idea for a pleasure driven car that might only get driven on weekends in cold weather, However, preoiler costs $500 easy. and, installation and maintenance are another costs and hassles. and, it's not portable to a new car. Regular oil/filter change will go a long way for some, but not for the others. BE. "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1Wa6b.4586$J6.4055@pd7tw3no... > Hi, > My understanding is engine wear mostly occurs when you start engine > (particularly in COLD) There is such a thing like oil primer. > You install an electric driven pump which will circulate oil before > you start engine. The first few seconds until the oil starts circulating > after engine starts running is the damaging time. > But no matter what, regualr oil/filter change will go a long way. > Tony > > BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > >>"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > >>>If you want .. > >>>to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > >>>problems. > >>>to make your engine oil cleaner. > >>>to reduce engine wear and friction. > >>>to extend your engine and transmission life. > >>> > >>>then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > >>>http://www.turbo-mag.ca > >>> > >> > >> > >> 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > > > it. > > > >> Chip > > > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in news:TFadnZgm_cTN2cSiXTWJiQ@magma.ca:
--------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To quote your words, Let's see some of the used oil analysisis with >> the Magnet as a comparison. Are you saying the filter normally passes >> microscopic iron particles? Most probably the iron particles will be >> trapped in the filter. Is your analysis sample from the oil pan or >> the filter? > > Thanks for your opinion. > > Those used oil analyses I mentioned was found at an internet forum > talking about their oil analysis result without any oil filter > magnets. > > I quoted them in order to say that engines generate > plenty of magnetic metal, not only Aluminium 99%. > People send their oil samples from the oil pan to the analysis > laboratory. > > Pass? Yes, it does. > Filters let microscopic particles pass naturally. > Oil filters are made to catch particles normally larger than > 10 ~ 40 microns range depending on the model and make. > Oil filter manufacturers certainly CAN make finer paper filter > to catch all the micro particles. But they DON'T and CAN'T. > Because making those filter will severely restrict > the engine's oil flow and pressure and will make another big problems > (oil starvation and engine failure). > > Therefore micro abrasive particles continue its circulation with the > oil, passing between piston rings and cylinder walls as well as > through all the softer materials of bearings, valve train, timing > gears and oil pump. > They scratch and grind into the parts and generate more particles, > thereby causing major engine wear result in > Excessive oil consumption, Abnormal engine noise, > Performance problems, Oil pressure, Abnormal operating temperatures > or Stuck/broken piston rings. > > Finally, a couple of hundreds to thousands will be payable to rebuilt. > > BE. > www.turbo-mag.ca > > You still avoid giving a straight answer to the poster. Please give an oil analysis from an engine which has had your magnet installed, and compare it to an oil analysis from an engine that has not had one installed. Thank you |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in news:TFadnZgm_cTN2cSiXTWJiQ@magma.ca:
--------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To quote your words, Let's see some of the used oil analysisis with >> the Magnet as a comparison. Are you saying the filter normally passes >> microscopic iron particles? Most probably the iron particles will be >> trapped in the filter. Is your analysis sample from the oil pan or >> the filter? > > Thanks for your opinion. > > Those used oil analyses I mentioned was found at an internet forum > talking about their oil analysis result without any oil filter > magnets. > > I quoted them in order to say that engines generate > plenty of magnetic metal, not only Aluminium 99%. > People send their oil samples from the oil pan to the analysis > laboratory. > > Pass? Yes, it does. > Filters let microscopic particles pass naturally. > Oil filters are made to catch particles normally larger than > 10 ~ 40 microns range depending on the model and make. > Oil filter manufacturers certainly CAN make finer paper filter > to catch all the micro particles. But they DON'T and CAN'T. > Because making those filter will severely restrict > the engine's oil flow and pressure and will make another big problems > (oil starvation and engine failure). > > Therefore micro abrasive particles continue its circulation with the > oil, passing between piston rings and cylinder walls as well as > through all the softer materials of bearings, valve train, timing > gears and oil pump. > They scratch and grind into the parts and generate more particles, > thereby causing major engine wear result in > Excessive oil consumption, Abnormal engine noise, > Performance problems, Oil pressure, Abnormal operating temperatures > or Stuck/broken piston rings. > > Finally, a couple of hundreds to thousands will be payable to rebuilt. > > BE. > www.turbo-mag.ca > > You still avoid giving a straight answer to the poster. Please give an oil analysis from an engine which has had your magnet installed, and compare it to an oil analysis from an engine that has not had one installed. Thank you |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in news:TFadnZgm_cTN2cSiXTWJiQ@magma.ca:
--------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To quote your words, Let's see some of the used oil analysisis with >> the Magnet as a comparison. Are you saying the filter normally passes >> microscopic iron particles? Most probably the iron particles will be >> trapped in the filter. Is your analysis sample from the oil pan or >> the filter? > > Thanks for your opinion. > > Those used oil analyses I mentioned was found at an internet forum > talking about their oil analysis result without any oil filter > magnets. > > I quoted them in order to say that engines generate > plenty of magnetic metal, not only Aluminium 99%. > People send their oil samples from the oil pan to the analysis > laboratory. > > Pass? Yes, it does. > Filters let microscopic particles pass naturally. > Oil filters are made to catch particles normally larger than > 10 ~ 40 microns range depending on the model and make. > Oil filter manufacturers certainly CAN make finer paper filter > to catch all the micro particles. But they DON'T and CAN'T. > Because making those filter will severely restrict > the engine's oil flow and pressure and will make another big problems > (oil starvation and engine failure). > > Therefore micro abrasive particles continue its circulation with the > oil, passing between piston rings and cylinder walls as well as > through all the softer materials of bearings, valve train, timing > gears and oil pump. > They scratch and grind into the parts and generate more particles, > thereby causing major engine wear result in > Excessive oil consumption, Abnormal engine noise, > Performance problems, Oil pressure, Abnormal operating temperatures > or Stuck/broken piston rings. > > Finally, a couple of hundreds to thousands will be payable to rebuilt. > > BE. > www.turbo-mag.ca > > You still avoid giving a straight answer to the poster. Please give an oil analysis from an engine which has had your magnet installed, and compare it to an oil analysis from an engine that has not had one installed. Thank you |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
> Please give an oil analysis from an engine which has had your magnet > installed, and compare it to an oil analysis from an engine that has not > had one installed. if the pan is steel, just sticking a speaker magnet on the outside should do the trick. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
> Please give an oil analysis from an engine which has had your magnet > installed, and compare it to an oil analysis from an engine that has not > had one installed. if the pan is steel, just sticking a speaker magnet on the outside should do the trick. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
> Please give an oil analysis from an engine which has had your magnet > installed, and compare it to an oil analysis from an engine that has not > had one installed. if the pan is steel, just sticking a speaker magnet on the outside should do the trick. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few
gauss and pretty useless. Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet cap. even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is made of. aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic or reg is better. i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). my 2 cents. =) On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few
gauss and pretty useless. Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet cap. even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is made of. aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic or reg is better. i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). my 2 cents. =) On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few
gauss and pretty useless. Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet cap. even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is made of. aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic or reg is better. i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). my 2 cents. =) On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few
gauss and pretty useless. Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet cap. even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is made of. aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic or reg is better. i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). my 2 cents. =) On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > If you want .. > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > problems. > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > it. > > > > Chip > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > ----------------------------------------- > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > 80% city/20% highway driving > Miles on engine, 26000 > miles on oil, 7200 > No makeup oil added > OEM paper air filter > SDF-57 oil filter > > Wear Metals > > Fe, 21 ppm > Cr, 0 ppm > Pb, 4 ppm > Cu, 8 ppm > Sn, 1 ppm > Al, 9 ppm > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > ------------------------------------------ > 1999 Honda Civic > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > No fuel or oil additives > NAPA Gold oil filter > OEM air filter > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > Average of 366 miles per week > No top up oil > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > This car is driven mostly on the highway > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > 8000 miles 5500 miles > . > Iron 19 14 > Lead 10 4.5 > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > Copper 3.8 3.0 > Silicon 8 11 > Nickel 0.1 0 > Chromium 3 0.8 > Titanium 0.1 0 > Tin 0.2 0 > Silver 0.4 0.2 > Vanadium 0.2 0 > Potassium 0 0 > ------------------------------------------ > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > parts. > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > don't have enough strength, > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > Simply, It works. > > BE. > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
I don't know if a magnet would hold metal particles against the flow of oil
within a filter, however I have had a couple of cars that had magnets fastened to the oil drain plug, which is an excellent way to see if your engine is making metal. "Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > you know that magnetic force from a permanent ferrous magnet is only a few > gauss and pretty useless. > > Went to the website and it claims 'rare earth' metal magnets. Although new > rare earth permanent magnets are in the order of 2000+ gauss, and indeed > have the bonding strength to trap a few particles. > > http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/A...,11504,00.html > > However I don't think these magnets are cheap enough to mass produce, > because theyre mostly cooked up in materials labs (in the order of > hundreds of thousands of dollars). Secondly, the internal pressure and > force inside a engine is pretty high; with the viscosity in the oil, and > high rate of flow from the pressure, i doubt more than a few > micro particles will cling to the inside of the filter with the magnet > cap. > > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. > > A solution would be to have a few capacitors store charge form the > electrical system of the car, and discharge a high voltage current to a > electromagnet device on the oil filter. Of course the forces involved > would definately trap contaminents, however i believe the EMF and other > fields geenrated by sucha high powered magnet, would distrupt teh > alternator, and otehr electronic parts of your car. > > in other words... . . . I doubt this device works. > > your better off changing your oil regularly, and using oil that doesnt > become too acidic when it chemically reacts to the metal yoru engine is > made of. > > aluminum becomes really acidic with reg dino oil. Good to use synthetic. > Iron reacts differently.. I dont remember on top of my head if synthetic > or reg is better. > > i personally use cheap oil, and change regularly (~2500-3000) miles to > prevent drastic changes in oil ph, and to keep contaminents low. > > you know microparticles do float around in your oil and settle to the > bottom of your oil pan, and the best way to get rid of them is to > change your oil regularly (its like cleaning out a fish tank). > > my 2 cents. =) > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, BE wrote: > > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message > > news:5ddcea74.0309041546.609ca0a0@posting.google.c om... > > > "BE" <spam@scare.me> wrote in message > > news:<CPKcncGBMJY34MqiU-KYvA@magma.ca>... > > > > If you want .. > > > > to protect your vehicle from the wear, friction, noise and costly engine > > > > problems. > > > > to make your engine oil cleaner. > > > > to reduce engine wear and friction. > > > > to extend your engine and transmission life. > > > > > > > > then, check this out, and put it on your oil filter. > > > > http://www.turbo-mag.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > 99% of what wears in this engine is aluminum. those magnets aren't worth > > it. > > > > > > Chip > > > > Thank you for your opinoins... > > > > Iron (magnetic) and steel alloy is being used in many engine parts. > > Even aluminum blocks use iron cylinder sleeves. > > The wear of these cylinder liner, valve and gear train, oil pump etc... > > can cause excessive oil consumption, abnormal engine noise, > > performance problems, oil pressure, abnormal operating temperatures, > > stuck/broken piston rings etc... > > > > Let's see some of the used oil analysis; > > ----------------------------------------- > > 2001 Camry, V-6 engine .... > > 80% city/20% highway driving > > Miles on engine, 26000 > > miles on oil, 7200 > > No makeup oil added > > OEM paper air filter > > SDF-57 oil filter > > > > Wear Metals > > > > Fe, 21 ppm > > Cr, 0 ppm > > Pb, 4 ppm > > Cu, 8 ppm > > Sn, 1 ppm > > Al, 9 ppm > > Ni/Ag/Mn, 0 ppm > > ------------------------------------------ > > 1999 Honda Civic > > 106hp, 1.6L engine, 5 speed manual > > 0w30 Castrol Syntec > > 5500 miles on oil/47,000 miles on engine > > No fuel or oil additives > > NAPA Gold oil filter > > OEM air filter > > Oil was run from March 23 to July 3 (15 weeks) > > Average of 366 miles per week > > No top up oil > > Oil capacity is 4.2 qts > > This car is driven mostly on the highway > > (but with lots of stop and go/heavy traffic) > > This was the first interval with this oil, previous oil was SL formula > > TriSynthetic Mobil 1 5w30 > > > > Mobil 1 5w30 Castrol 0w30 > > 8000 miles 5500 miles > > . > > Iron 19 14 > > Lead 10 4.5 > > Aluminum 5.2 2.5 > > Copper 3.8 3.0 > > Silicon 8 11 > > Nickel 0.1 0 > > Chromium 3 0.8 > > Titanium 0.1 0 > > Tin 0.2 0 > > Silver 0.4 0.2 > > Vanadium 0.2 0 > > Potassium 0 0 > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Fe(iron) is magnetic and the most wear in thses casees. > > Unfortunatly, Iron can cause more wear of non-magnetic metal > > such as Cu(Copper) and Al(Aluminuim), > > since iron and steel is harder than them and circulating in the engine > > parts. > > > > Regular magnets from computer hard drive or toy > > don't have enough strength, > > also, they lose a great deal of magnetic strength > > with high temperature from engine block and oil. > > > > Try to use the oil filter magnet > > after thousands miles driving, cut and open your oil filter, > > then you'll see what is in it for sure. > > Simply, It works. > > > > BE. > > > > > > |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. Wrong. Try a magnetic drain plug. They *work*. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. Wrong. Try a magnetic drain plug. They *work*. |
Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...want to support filtering of engine oil?
"Jin Lee" <jinlee@ic.sunysb.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.58.0310240844400.12564@sparky.ic.s unysb.edu... > even if you put a high powered speaker magnet to the bottom of your oil > pan, the magnet is not strong enough to bond particles, esp when the > horizontal force of pressure and flow prevents particles from sticking. Wrong. Try a magnetic drain plug. They *work*. |
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