1991 civic won't start...
01-05-2005, 06:54 AM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
If it is not the main relay, it could be the solenoid inside the
distributor, not the coil, but the other pack.
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in message
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> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > this site also has data and pix on the ignitor;
> > http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> thanx...
>
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>
distributor, not the coil, but the other pack.
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in message
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> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > this site also has data and pix on the ignitor;
> > http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> thanx...
>
> --
> - prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
>
>
01-05-2005, 10:20 AM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
Is there a solenoid inside the distributor? There isn't on our integra
but that's a 95 so maybe things are different on older cars.
Or do you mean that assembly with four wires mounted on a plate? If so,
that is the ignitor.
Or do you mean that black unit sitting next to what looks like a cam?
If so, that is a hall sensor pick up.
Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
but that's a 95 so maybe things are different on older cars.
Or do you mean that assembly with four wires mounted on a plate? If so,
that is the ignitor.
Or do you mean that black unit sitting next to what looks like a cam?
If so, that is a hall sensor pick up.
Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
01-05-2005, 10:20 AM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
Is there a solenoid inside the distributor? There isn't on our integra
but that's a 95 so maybe things are different on older cars.
Or do you mean that assembly with four wires mounted on a plate? If so,
that is the ignitor.
Or do you mean that black unit sitting next to what looks like a cam?
If so, that is a hall sensor pick up.
Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
but that's a 95 so maybe things are different on older cars.
Or do you mean that assembly with four wires mounted on a plate? If so,
that is the ignitor.
Or do you mean that black unit sitting next to what looks like a cam?
If so, that is a hall sensor pick up.
Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
01-05-2005, 05:24 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
Remco wrote:
> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
thanx
here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
US or UK newsgroup? ) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must
be in order too.
the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
messed up the head on one bolt
((
btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
distributor?
i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
thanx
here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
US or UK newsgroup?
) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories mustbe in order too.
the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
messed up the head on one bolt
((btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
distributor?
i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
01-05-2005, 05:24 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
Remco wrote:
> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
thanx
here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
US or UK newsgroup? ) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must
be in order too.
the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
messed up the head on one bolt((
btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
distributor?
i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
thanx
here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
US or UK newsgroup?
) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories mustbe in order too.
the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
messed up the head on one bolt
((btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
distributor?
i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
01-05-2005, 06:31 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in
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> Remco wrote:
>> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems
> with the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with
> german aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this
> original ignitor was not completely "dead", but it had some problems
> every now and then. today i tried to put it back in, instead of this
> HUCO, but nothing changed, so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when
> the engine is cranked, the rotor spins, so it's not that either. i can
> smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this US or UK newsgroup? ) in the
> exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried
> to dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition
> coil, but i messed up the head on one bolt((
>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on
> the distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
>
Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura products
are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:crhpee$ifc$1@bagan.srce.hr:
> Remco wrote:
>> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems
> with the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with
> german aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this
> original ignitor was not completely "dead", but it had some problems
> every now and then. today i tried to put it back in, instead of this
> HUCO, but nothing changed, so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when
> the engine is cranked, the rotor spins, so it's not that either. i can
> smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this US or UK newsgroup?
) in the> exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried
> to dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition
> coil, but i messed up the head on one bolt
((>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on
> the distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
>
Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura products
are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
01-05-2005, 06:31 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in
news:crhpee$ifc$1@bagan.srce.hr:
> Remco wrote:
>> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems
> with the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with
> german aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this
> original ignitor was not completely "dead", but it had some problems
> every now and then. today i tried to put it back in, instead of this
> HUCO, but nothing changed, so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when
> the engine is cranked, the rotor spins, so it's not that either. i can
> smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this US or UK newsgroup? ) in the
> exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried
> to dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition
> coil, but i messed up the head on one bolt((
>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on
> the distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
>
Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura products
are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:crhpee$ifc$1@bagan.srce.hr:
> Remco wrote:
>> Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems
> with the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with
> german aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this
> original ignitor was not completely "dead", but it had some problems
> every now and then. today i tried to put it back in, instead of this
> HUCO, but nothing changed, so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when
> the engine is cranked, the rotor spins, so it's not that either. i can
> smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this US or UK newsgroup?
) in the> exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried
> to dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition
> coil, but i messed up the head on one bolt
((>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on
> the distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
>
Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura products
are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
01-05-2005, 06:53 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
djo wrote:
> Remco wrote:
>
>>Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
> the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
> aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
> was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
> today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
> so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
> spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
> US or UK newsgroup? ) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must
> be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
> dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
> messed up the head on one bolt((
>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
> distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
--------------------
If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the floor
for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
Have you tried that one yet?
'Curly'
> Remco wrote:
>
>>Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
> the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
> aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
> was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
> today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
> so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
> spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
> US or UK newsgroup?
) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must> be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
> dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
> messed up the head on one bolt
((>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
> distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
--------------------
If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the floor
for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
Have you tried that one yet?
'Curly'
01-05-2005, 06:53 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
djo wrote:
> Remco wrote:
>
>>Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
> the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
> aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
> was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
> today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
> so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
> spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
> US or UK newsgroup? ) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must
> be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
> dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
> messed up the head on one bolt((
>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
> distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
--------------------
If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the floor
for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
Have you tried that one yet?
'Curly'
> Remco wrote:
>
>>Just making sure we don't confuse djo.
>
>
> thanx
>
> here's the deal... it's definitely not the ignitor. i had sam problems with
> the ignitor last year, and had changed original NEC ignitor with german
> aftermarket HUCO ignitor, or something like that... this original ignitor
> was not completely "dead", but it had some problems every now and then.
> today i tried to put it back in, instead of this HUCO, but nothing changed,
> so i'm guessing it's not the ignitor. when the engine is cranked, the rotor
> spins, so it's not that either. i can smell gas/petrol (by the way, is this
> US or UK newsgroup?
) in the exhaust, so the fuel pump&accessories must> be in order too.
>
> the only thing left that could be wrong is the ignition coil. i tried to
> dissassemble the distributor, in order to pull out the ignition coil, but i
> messed up the head on one bolt
((>
> btw. can someone please explain how to disconnect those two jacks on the
> distributor?
> i managed to pull one out, but the other one just wont go...
>
--------------------
If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the floor
for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
Have you tried that one yet?
'Curly'
01-05-2005, 07:28 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ wrote:
> If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
> flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the
> floor for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
>
> Have you tried that one yet?
no, will try. but still, i don't think that's the problem. i pulled out one
of the spark-plugs, and tried cranking the engine (with body of the
spark-plug grounded, of course), but there was no spark at the top of the
spark-plug...
so it's gotta be something with the ignition then...
--
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> If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
> flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the
> floor for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
>
> Have you tried that one yet?
no, will try. but still, i don't think that's the problem. i pulled out one
of the spark-plugs, and tried cranking the engine (with body of the
spark-plug grounded, of course), but there was no spark at the top of the
spark-plug...
so it's gotta be something with the ignition then...
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
01-05-2005, 07:28 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ wrote:
> If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
> flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the
> floor for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
>
> Have you tried that one yet?
no, will try. but still, i don't think that's the problem. i pulled out one
of the spark-plugs, and tried cranking the engine (with body of the
spark-plug grounded, of course), but there was no spark at the top of the
spark-plug...
so it's gotta be something with the ignition then...
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
> If you can smell gas, you're flooded. Your Owner's manual says that a
> flooded Honda has to be cranked with the pedal all the way to the
> floor for up to 15 seconds, and then it will start.
>
> Have you tried that one yet?
no, will try. but still, i don't think that's the problem. i pulled out one
of the spark-plugs, and tried cranking the engine (with body of the
spark-plug grounded, of course), but there was no spark at the top of the
spark-plug...
so it's gotta be something with the ignition then...
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
01-05-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
Jim Yanik wrote:
> Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura
> products are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
unfortunately not
the coil is right under the distibutor-cap. but i will have to dismantle the
whole distibutor, if
i want to take the coil out...
> Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
couldn't find reasonable price for shipping to croatia
--
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> Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura
> products are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
unfortunately not
the coil is right under the distibutor-cap. but i will have to dismantle the
whole distibutor, if
i want to take the coil out...
> Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
couldn't find reasonable price for shipping to croatia
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
01-05-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
Jim Yanik wrote:
> Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura
> products are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
unfortunately not
the coil is right under the distibutor-cap. but i will have to dismantle the
whole distibutor, if
i want to take the coil out...
> Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
couldn't find reasonable price for shipping to croatia
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
> Is the coil separate from the distributor cap? Some Honda/Acura
> products are integrated coil/cap,IIRC.
unfortunately not
the coil is right under the distibutor-cap. but i will have to dismantle the
whole distibutor, if
i want to take the coil out...
> Ever think about buying a Haynes manual?
couldn't find reasonable price for shipping to croatia
--
- prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
01-07-2005, 01:34 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
i had the same problemon a 1990 civic at christmas. i changed the main
relay, the distributor and the cap and rotor and that didnt fix it. as it
turned out it was the injectors. they were not getting enough fuel. i
changed trottle body and it now runs like a new car
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in message
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> the car turned back on me on NY's eve((
> here's the problem, i started it, and it just stopped aftert approx. 15
> seconds idling. after that, every attempt of starting it was useless. i
> inspected the sparkplugs, and apparently they are not getting fire. i'm
not
> getting any error codes...
>
> distributor cap and wires are ok.
> could it be the ignition coil?
>
> --
> - prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
>
>
relay, the distributor and the cap and rotor and that didnt fix it. as it
turned out it was the injectors. they were not getting enough fuel. i
changed trottle body and it now runs like a new car
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in message
news:cref41$cbo$1@bagan.srce.hr...
> the car turned back on me on NY's eve
((> here's the problem, i started it, and it just stopped aftert approx. 15
> seconds idling. after that, every attempt of starting it was useless. i
> inspected the sparkplugs, and apparently they are not getting fire. i'm
not
> getting any error codes...
>
> distributor cap and wires are ok.
> could it be the ignition coil?
>
> --
> - prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
>
>
01-07-2005, 01:34 PM
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
i had the same problemon a 1990 civic at christmas. i changed the main
relay, the distributor and the cap and rotor and that didnt fix it. as it
turned out it was the injectors. they were not getting enough fuel. i
changed trottle body and it now runs like a new car
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in message
news:cref41$cbo$1@bagan.srce.hr...
> the car turned back on me on NY's eve((
> here's the problem, i started it, and it just stopped aftert approx. 15
> seconds idling. after that, every attempt of starting it was useless. i
> inspected the sparkplugs, and apparently they are not getting fire. i'm
not
> getting any error codes...
>
> distributor cap and wires are ok.
> could it be the ignition coil?
>
> --
> - prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
>
>
relay, the distributor and the cap and rotor and that didnt fix it. as it
turned out it was the injectors. they were not getting enough fuel. i
changed trottle body and it now runs like a new car
"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in message
news:cref41$cbo$1@bagan.srce.hr...
> the car turned back on me on NY's eve
((> here's the problem, i started it, and it just stopped aftert approx. 15
> seconds idling. after that, every attempt of starting it was useless. i
> inspected the sparkplugs, and apparently they are not getting fire. i'm
not
> getting any error codes...
>
> distributor cap and wires are ok.
> could it be the ignition coil?
>
> --
> - prodajem OZ superturismo 15" 4x100, 2 kom 900 kn...
>
>
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