Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

You are entitle to your opinion but our records of thousands of
vehicles, the source I use, says differently. But hey it's your
money spend it where you wish. I could not car less. The
original poster did, apparently believing buying a Honda would
insure trouble free longevity, yet he has a blown engine under
60K.



mike hunt



Gorton McGrew wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:27:05 GMT, MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote:
>
> >From what I see on our business ALL manufactures are building
> >good dependable vehicle today, the only real difference is price
> >and style. They will all last a long time if given the proper
> >maintenance. Murphy's law is still at work. They ALL build some
> >that are not up to their build standards and they ALL built some
> >that breakdown on occasion, that's why they ALL have a warranty.
>
> And all the warranties expire.
>
> >Anybody that believes that by buying particular brand, or paying
> >a premium price to do so, they are necessarily going go get one
> >that will not have problems is deluding themselves. We warrant
> >and service most brands, I can assure none is free of defects.
>
> Nope, no guaranty only a warranty. However, all sources indicate that
> your odds are better with a Toyota or Honda than a Ford or GM (or
> Volvo, VW, Mitsubishi, BMW, etc.)
>
> >
> >
> >
> >mike hunt
> >
> >
> >
> >Pete wrote:
> >>
> >> <IleneDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3F520AD1.3633C553@mailcity.com...
> >> > Looks like yet another foreign car buyer has awakened in the real
> >> > world. Like many buyers, you fell for this myth of superior
> >> > Japanese quality. They are good cars but every day more people
> >> > are realizing that they too breakdown on occasion just like all
> >> > other vehicles on the road. When they do, they cost a lot more
> >> > to repair than domestics. They paid a lot more to buy that so
> >> > called superior car over a domestic. When it comes time to buy
> >> > another new car they are much less likely to pay all that extra
> >> > money to buy another Japanese car. Drive
> >> > by any domestic new car dealer and see all the foreign cars
> >> > sitting on their used car lot if you have any doubt ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > mike hunt
> >>
> >> Your trolling, right, Mike? And if not, you're exhibiting an astonishing
> >> ignorance of the facts of present day car manufacturing reality.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

You are entitle to your opinion but our records of thousands of
vehicles, the source I use, says differently. But hey it's your
money spend it where you wish. I could not car less. The
original poster did, apparently believing buying a Honda would
insure trouble free longevity, yet he has a blown engine under
60K.



mike hunt



Gorton McGrew wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:27:05 GMT, MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote:
>
> >From what I see on our business ALL manufactures are building
> >good dependable vehicle today, the only real difference is price
> >and style. They will all last a long time if given the proper
> >maintenance. Murphy's law is still at work. They ALL build some
> >that are not up to their build standards and they ALL built some
> >that breakdown on occasion, that's why they ALL have a warranty.
>
> And all the warranties expire.
>
> >Anybody that believes that by buying particular brand, or paying
> >a premium price to do so, they are necessarily going go get one
> >that will not have problems is deluding themselves. We warrant
> >and service most brands, I can assure none is free of defects.
>
> Nope, no guaranty only a warranty. However, all sources indicate that
> your odds are better with a Toyota or Honda than a Ford or GM (or
> Volvo, VW, Mitsubishi, BMW, etc.)
>
> >
> >
> >
> >mike hunt
> >
> >
> >
> >Pete wrote:
> >>
> >> <IleneDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3F520AD1.3633C553@mailcity.com...
> >> > Looks like yet another foreign car buyer has awakened in the real
> >> > world. Like many buyers, you fell for this myth of superior
> >> > Japanese quality. They are good cars but every day more people
> >> > are realizing that they too breakdown on occasion just like all
> >> > other vehicles on the road. When they do, they cost a lot more
> >> > to repair than domestics. They paid a lot more to buy that so
> >> > called superior car over a domestic. When it comes time to buy
> >> > another new car they are much less likely to pay all that extra
> >> > money to buy another Japanese car. Drive
> >> > by any domestic new car dealer and see all the foreign cars
> >> > sitting on their used car lot if you have any doubt ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > mike hunt
> >>
> >> Your trolling, right, Mike? And if not, you're exhibiting an astonishing
> >> ignorance of the facts of present day car manufacturing reality.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

Falling asleep through 's post...

> mike hunt

You running from the Toyota regs in the Toyota NGs?

--
"If you can't change a tire, you're not allowed to have a beard. It's the
most basic part of a car: If you don't know that much about a car, you
really shouldn't be driving, should you?" - Jimmy Kimmel
ntlhell rolls a six... deathwind is disembowelled with a chainsaw, run over
with a rhino, fed to the fish and his computer taken away from him such
that he doesn't bore us with that inane rot ever again. - ntlhell - A.G.G-
T-A http://www.cafeshops.com/creexul.2534632

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

Falling asleep through 's post...

> mike hunt

You running from the Toyota regs in the Toyota NGs?

--
"If you can't change a tire, you're not allowed to have a beard. It's the
most basic part of a car: If you don't know that much about a car, you
really shouldn't be driving, should you?" - Jimmy Kimmel
ntlhell rolls a six... deathwind is disembowelled with a chainsaw, run over
with a rhino, fed to the fish and his computer taken away from him such
that he doesn't bore us with that inane rot ever again. - ntlhell - A.G.G-
T-A http://www.cafeshops.com/creexul.2534632

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:12:41 GMT, MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote:

>You are entitle to your opinion but our records of thousands of
>vehicles, the source I use, says differently. But hey it's your
>money spend it where you wish. I could not car less. The
>original poster did, apparently believing buying a Honda would
>insure trouble free longevity, yet he has a blown engine under
>60K.

"Blown engine"? You have completely lost track of the thread. Move along
please.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:12:41 GMT, MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote:

>You are entitle to your opinion but our records of thousands of
>vehicles, the source I use, says differently. But hey it's your
>money spend it where you wish. I could not car less. The
>original poster did, apparently believing buying a Honda would
>insure trouble free longevity, yet he has a blown engine under
>60K.

"Blown engine"? You have completely lost track of the thread. Move along
please.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F53C2A8.636EEA7B@mailcity.com...
> You are entitle to your opinion but our records of thousands of
> vehicles, the source I use, says differently. But hey it's your
> money spend it where you wish. I could not car less. The
> original poster did, apparently believing buying a Honda would
> insure trouble free longevity, yet he has a blown engine under
> 60K.

and thats gonna happen. ive got a co worker who turned in a 6 month old
excursion for excessive oil burning. i think since he put nothing down, they
let him just walk away from it.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F53C2A8.636EEA7B@mailcity.com...
> You are entitle to your opinion but our records of thousands of
> vehicles, the source I use, says differently. But hey it's your
> money spend it where you wish. I could not car less. The
> original poster did, apparently believing buying a Honda would
> insure trouble free longevity, yet he has a blown engine under
> 60K.

and thats gonna happen. ive got a co worker who turned in a 6 month old
excursion for excessive oil burning. i think since he put nothing down, they
let him just walk away from it.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

I like you have been a faithful Honda owner from 1990 when I bought my first
Honda Accord. From 1990 until now I have owned 6 Hondas, 4 of which I still
own. I have owned a 1990 Accord, a 1996 Accord and I still own a 1998
Accord EX V6, a 1999 Civic, a 2001 Civic and a 2003 Accord EX V6. I have
been very happy with all of them with the exception of the 03. There were
some issues with the 03 that were not taken care of to my satisfaction after
almost a year of battling with American Honda and their Customer Service
department. They basically said "this is all we are going to do for you and
if you don't like it you can go to the BBB and complain. That was not the
response nor the attitude I expected from American Honda. I have said to
them and the dealer that the 03 was the last Honda I will buy and when my
others need to be replaced they will not be replaced with Hondas. Like you
said, Honda is not the only game in town.
"Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:Q5S3b.301052$YN5.207261@sccrnsc01...
> I had a 2002 Honda Accord EX-V6. In a year we only put 10K miles on it..
it
> was a good car to us. The tranny failure rate I've read in various
articles
> was about 2% but the cost for repair if not under warranty is very high.
> One of my co-worker's mom who's working in Germany had a tranny failure on
a
> 1999 as well and it cost her something crazy like $6,000 to replace.
>
> Though I wasn't afraid that my tranny would fail, I wanted to at least
know
> why my 2002 was not part of the warranty extension so I sent letters (four
> letters) to Honda asking for an explanation why the 2002 model was not
part
> of the extended warranty models. They would not answer my simple question
> so last month I traded that sucker in for a new Volvo XC90 and VOWED to
not
> buy another Honda again and have informed my family members, cousins,
> friends, and their friends to do the same. (As you can see, I'm upset
about
> the whole thing.)
>
> Sure I traded in an apple for an orange but it was my way of voting with
my
> $$. Though I still own a 91 Honda Civic Si and probably will own that for
a
> very long time. My protest probably will not have a big impact on Honda
but
> at least in my mind I'm satisfied, something Honda couldn't do for me as
> their customer. Nowadays there are so many good cars out there. I'm
> willing to bet that many Honda owners have owned or currently own vehicles
> from other manufacturers and is happy with the other vehicles. Honda's
not
> the only game in town.
>
> Boomer
> 03 Lancer EVO VIII
> 04 Volvo XC90
> 91 Civic Si
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2908031533570001@pm2-broad-183.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <bimfcn$b3tu2$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Pete"
> > <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> .....
>
> > > I've spent the afternoon google searching. What I've discovered so far
> is
> > > that there is indeed a common problem with these transmissions from
1998
> to
> > > 2002 model years. Honda has granted warranty extensions for the 2000
and
> > > 2001 models, but inexplicably not the others, although they cannot or
> will
> > > not explain the design differences between them that would legitimize
> the
> > > exclusions. The 2003 models are a new design. Can anyone relate any
> recent
> > > similar experiences?
>
> ....
>
>

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

I like you have been a faithful Honda owner from 1990 when I bought my first
Honda Accord. From 1990 until now I have owned 6 Hondas, 4 of which I still
own. I have owned a 1990 Accord, a 1996 Accord and I still own a 1998
Accord EX V6, a 1999 Civic, a 2001 Civic and a 2003 Accord EX V6. I have
been very happy with all of them with the exception of the 03. There were
some issues with the 03 that were not taken care of to my satisfaction after
almost a year of battling with American Honda and their Customer Service
department. They basically said "this is all we are going to do for you and
if you don't like it you can go to the BBB and complain. That was not the
response nor the attitude I expected from American Honda. I have said to
them and the dealer that the 03 was the last Honda I will buy and when my
others need to be replaced they will not be replaced with Hondas. Like you
said, Honda is not the only game in town.
"Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:Q5S3b.301052$YN5.207261@sccrnsc01...
> I had a 2002 Honda Accord EX-V6. In a year we only put 10K miles on it..
it
> was a good car to us. The tranny failure rate I've read in various
articles
> was about 2% but the cost for repair if not under warranty is very high.
> One of my co-worker's mom who's working in Germany had a tranny failure on
a
> 1999 as well and it cost her something crazy like $6,000 to replace.
>
> Though I wasn't afraid that my tranny would fail, I wanted to at least
know
> why my 2002 was not part of the warranty extension so I sent letters (four
> letters) to Honda asking for an explanation why the 2002 model was not
part
> of the extended warranty models. They would not answer my simple question
> so last month I traded that sucker in for a new Volvo XC90 and VOWED to
not
> buy another Honda again and have informed my family members, cousins,
> friends, and their friends to do the same. (As you can see, I'm upset
about
> the whole thing.)
>
> Sure I traded in an apple for an orange but it was my way of voting with
my
> $$. Though I still own a 91 Honda Civic Si and probably will own that for
a
> very long time. My protest probably will not have a big impact on Honda
but
> at least in my mind I'm satisfied, something Honda couldn't do for me as
> their customer. Nowadays there are so many good cars out there. I'm
> willing to bet that many Honda owners have owned or currently own vehicles
> from other manufacturers and is happy with the other vehicles. Honda's
not
> the only game in town.
>
> Boomer
> 03 Lancer EVO VIII
> 04 Volvo XC90
> 91 Civic Si
>
> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:billbjohnson555-2908031533570001@pm2-broad-183.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <bimfcn$b3tu2$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Pete"
> > <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> .....
>
> > > I've spent the afternoon google searching. What I've discovered so far
> is
> > > that there is indeed a common problem with these transmissions from
1998
> to
> > > 2002 model years. Honda has granted warranty extensions for the 2000
and
> > > 2001 models, but inexplicably not the others, although they cannot or
> will
> > > not explain the design differences between them that would legitimize
> the
> > > exclusions. The 2003 models are a new design. Can anyone relate any
> recent
> > > similar experiences?
>
> ....
>
>

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

In article
<billbjohnson555-3108031324510001@pm5-broad-102.snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote:

> In article <bit9c4$ckkk5$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Pete"
> <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2Dh4b.312363$YN5.213964@sccrnsc01...
> > >
> > > "Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bis4n1$cjjpi$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > >
> > > > "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:6mu2lvg63idn808p5ctg492eh6fn962nev@4ax.com...
> >
> > > > >But I certainly wouldn't spend $2000 on an
> > > > > extended warranty to guard against it - transmission failure is not a
> > > > > catastrophe. I would consider changing the fluid more often than
> > > > > recommended, especially if there is any type of severe service
> > > > > involved.
> >
> > > > Perhaps in your world a $4-5,000 repair bill on a 3 1/2 year old car
> > with
> > > > 48,000 miles isn't a catastrophe. In mine it is.
> >
> > > thats like putting $2000 down on one number on a roulette table with 50
> > > numbers. and if you *do* win, you get back what? $5000?
> >
> > > would you do that in vegas?
> >
> > I wasn't the one that said I'd buy an extended warranty. Never have, never
> > will. I was disputing Gordon's contention that a transmission failure is
> > "not a catastrophe".
> >
> > > > This is Honda we're talking about. The supposed king of reliability. I
> > just
> > > > sold a 1985 GMC diesel Suburban. It had 250,000 miles. And the original
> > > > transmission. My company vehicle is a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. It has 95,000
> > > > miles. And the original transmission.
> > >
> > > and you lucked out twice. i doubt youd have that luck with a chrysler
> > > minivan, or a ford taurus.
> >
> > Both of these vehicles was and are meticulously maintained. Luck had nothing
> > to do with it. I also have a 1997 Ford Explorer with 90,000 miles on it.
> > Another vehicle notorious for tranny problems. None yet. BTW, Ford
> > recognized that it's service recommendations for the transmission were
> > inadequate. So they sent a letter out to owners recommending transmission
> > service at 25,000 mile intervals for ALL use categories.
>
> I was the one that mentioned that I purchased an extended warranty. I tend
> to worry a lot and I purchased it when I purchased the car. I usually keep
> cars until they reach the 100,000 mile mark--or higher. To me and millions
> of others like me--it's buying piece of mind. If I never have to make use
> of it--that's fine with me.

I started this and was amazed that at least 21 people posted a response. I
read all of them and most were not even on the subject mentioned above but
some posts were on the subject and well written--thanks. I only have one
thought to add--Murphy's law is a fact of life and can kick in at any time
with any car. Those people that have Honda cars that have extended
warranties don't have to worry about Murphy's law. Those people that don't
have extended warranty do have to worry about Murphy's law kicking in on
them and on their cars. I don't regret buying the extended warranty since
it keeps my heart from racing when the engine light comes on. On the other
hand, I fully understand why people don't buy extended warranty.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

In article
<billbjohnson555-3108031324510001@pm5-broad-102.snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com (Bill B. Johnson) wrote:

> In article <bit9c4$ckkk5$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Pete"
> <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:2Dh4b.312363$YN5.213964@sccrnsc01...
> > >
> > > "Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bis4n1$cjjpi$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > >
> > > > "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:6mu2lvg63idn808p5ctg492eh6fn962nev@4ax.com...
> >
> > > > >But I certainly wouldn't spend $2000 on an
> > > > > extended warranty to guard against it - transmission failure is not a
> > > > > catastrophe. I would consider changing the fluid more often than
> > > > > recommended, especially if there is any type of severe service
> > > > > involved.
> >
> > > > Perhaps in your world a $4-5,000 repair bill on a 3 1/2 year old car
> > with
> > > > 48,000 miles isn't a catastrophe. In mine it is.
> >
> > > thats like putting $2000 down on one number on a roulette table with 50
> > > numbers. and if you *do* win, you get back what? $5000?
> >
> > > would you do that in vegas?
> >
> > I wasn't the one that said I'd buy an extended warranty. Never have, never
> > will. I was disputing Gordon's contention that a transmission failure is
> > "not a catastrophe".
> >
> > > > This is Honda we're talking about. The supposed king of reliability. I
> > just
> > > > sold a 1985 GMC diesel Suburban. It had 250,000 miles. And the original
> > > > transmission. My company vehicle is a 1996 Jeep Cherokee. It has 95,000
> > > > miles. And the original transmission.
> > >
> > > and you lucked out twice. i doubt youd have that luck with a chrysler
> > > minivan, or a ford taurus.
> >
> > Both of these vehicles was and are meticulously maintained. Luck had nothing
> > to do with it. I also have a 1997 Ford Explorer with 90,000 miles on it.
> > Another vehicle notorious for tranny problems. None yet. BTW, Ford
> > recognized that it's service recommendations for the transmission were
> > inadequate. So they sent a letter out to owners recommending transmission
> > service at 25,000 mile intervals for ALL use categories.
>
> I was the one that mentioned that I purchased an extended warranty. I tend
> to worry a lot and I purchased it when I purchased the car. I usually keep
> cars until they reach the 100,000 mile mark--or higher. To me and millions
> of others like me--it's buying piece of mind. If I never have to make use
> of it--that's fine with me.

I started this and was amazed that at least 21 people posted a response. I
read all of them and most were not even on the subject mentioned above but
some posts were on the subject and well written--thanks. I only have one
thought to add--Murphy's law is a fact of life and can kick in at any time
with any car. Those people that have Honda cars that have extended
warranties don't have to worry about Murphy's law. Those people that don't
have extended warranty do have to worry about Murphy's law kicking in on
them and on their cars. I don't regret buying the extended warranty since
it keeps my heart from racing when the engine light comes on. On the other
hand, I fully understand why people don't buy extended warranty.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

<IleneDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F520AD1.3633C553@mailcity.com...
> Looks like yet another foreign car buyer has awakened in the real
> world.

Sorry troll...your credibility is shot.

> Like many buyers, you fell for this myth of superior
> Japanese quality.

Again, the numbers speak the truth.

>They are good cars but every day more people
> are realizing that they too breakdown on occasion just like all
> other vehicles on the road.

Wrongo dipstick. Domestic cars (per capita) are less durable and reliable
than there Japanese counter part. Look it up moron...its a fact.

>When they do, they cost a lot more
> to repair than domestics. They paid a lot more to buy that so
> called superior car over a domestic. When it comes time to buy
> another new car they are much less likely to pay all that extra
> money to buy another Japanese car. Drive
> by any domestic new car dealer and see all the foreign cars
> sitting on their used car lot if you have any doubt ;)

Ok...I just did. It just about reflected the exact same ratio that I see on
the road. So what?

Get a life loser-troll.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

<IleneDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F520AD1.3633C553@mailcity.com...
> Looks like yet another foreign car buyer has awakened in the real
> world.

Sorry troll...your credibility is shot.

> Like many buyers, you fell for this myth of superior
> Japanese quality.

Again, the numbers speak the truth.

>They are good cars but every day more people
> are realizing that they too breakdown on occasion just like all
> other vehicles on the road.

Wrongo dipstick. Domestic cars (per capita) are less durable and reliable
than there Japanese counter part. Look it up moron...its a fact.

>When they do, they cost a lot more
> to repair than domestics. They paid a lot more to buy that so
> called superior car over a domestic. When it comes time to buy
> another new car they are much less likely to pay all that extra
> money to buy another Japanese car. Drive
> by any domestic new car dealer and see all the foreign cars
> sitting on their used car lot if you have any doubt ;)

Ok...I just did. It just about reflected the exact same ratio that I see on
the road. So what?

Get a life loser-troll.

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F536398.CDDEE122@mailcity.com...
> From what I see on our business ALL manufactures are building
> good dependable vehicle today, the only real difference is price
> and style. They will all last a long time if given the proper
> maintenance. Murphy's law is still at work. They ALL build some
> that are not up to their build standards and they ALL built some
> that breakdown on occasion, that's why they ALL have a warranty.
> Anybody that believes that by buying particular brand, or paying
> a premium price to do so, they are necessarily going go get one
> that will not have problems is deluding themselves. We warrant
> and service most brands, I can assure none is free of defects.
>
>
>
> mike hunt

"You" have proven nothing, aside from the fact that you hide behind some
childish Usenet names, AND have been caught in flagrant lies and
misinformation.

Does your Mommy know your playing with the keyboard again?