Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

First, Mike Hunt said:

> the
>mean average failure rate, minor and not so minor, for ALL
>new cars sold in the US is about .0124% in the first three
>years.

Then, on Thu, 04 Sep 2003 23:38:50 GMT, MikeHunt2@mailcity.com wrote:

>. That statistics is on
>failures that lead to a breakdown. ;)

By 'breakdown' do you mean the car is undriveable? What happened to
"minor and not so minor?" I would say that any failure that causes the
car to be undriveable is not minor. The great majority of failures do
not cause breakdowns in that sense.

I am skeptical that even the breakdown rate is that low.

>
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>>
>> <StoneyMason@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:3F567A14.D0E33CCB@mailcity.com...
>> > If you would take the time to do some research, instead of
>> > running off at the mouth all the time, you would discover the
>> > mean average failure rate, minor and not so minor, for ALL
>> > new cars sold in the US is about .0124% in the first three
>> > years.
>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> Where did you come up with this figure?

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

<MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F57CB60.D642AE05@mailcity.com...
> Do some research on, statistics in the market place. One can
> find statistics on anything, if you look.. That statistics is on
> failures that lead to a breakdown. ;)
>
>
>
> mike hunt

Really? Wow...what a genius...

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

<MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F57CB60.D642AE05@mailcity.com...
> Do some research on, statistics in the market place. One can
> find statistics on anything, if you look.. That statistics is on
> failures that lead to a breakdown. ;)
>
>
>
> mike hunt

Really? Wow...what a genius...

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

Those that result in a vehicle not operating properly, or not at
all. I.E. Failed plug wire (minor) or a Tranny (major). A loose
door latch or inoperable cigar lighter does not cause the vehicle
to not operate properly or quit. If one subscribes to J. D.
Powers service you will see they list things by category, rather
than just the totals they publish of defects per thousand
vehicles..


mike bunt



Gorton McGrew wrote:
>
> First, Mike Hunt said:
>
> > the
> >mean average failure rate, minor and not so minor, for ALL
> >new cars sold in the US is about .0124% in the first three
> >years.
>
> Then, on Thu, 04 Sep 2003 23:38:50 GMT, MikeHunt2@mailcity.com wrote:
>
> >. That statistics is on
> >failures that lead to a breakdown. ;)
>
> By 'breakdown' do you mean the car is undriveable? What happened to
> "minor and not so minor?" I would say that any failure that causes the
> car to be undriveable is not minor. The great majority of failures do
> not cause breakdowns in that sense.
>
> I am skeptical that even the breakdown rate is that low.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >mike hunt
> >
> >
> >Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> >>
> >> <StoneyMason@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3F567A14.D0E33CCB@mailcity.com...
> >> > If you would take the time to do some research, instead of
> >> > running off at the mouth all the time, you would discover the
> >> > mean average failure rate, minor and not so minor, for ALL
> >> > new cars sold in the US is about .0124% in the first three
> >> > years.
> >>
> >> Wow.
> >>
> >> Where did you come up with this figure?

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

Those that result in a vehicle not operating properly, or not at
all. I.E. Failed plug wire (minor) or a Tranny (major). A loose
door latch or inoperable cigar lighter does not cause the vehicle
to not operate properly or quit. If one subscribes to J. D.
Powers service you will see they list things by category, rather
than just the totals they publish of defects per thousand
vehicles..


mike bunt



Gorton McGrew wrote:
>
> First, Mike Hunt said:
>
> > the
> >mean average failure rate, minor and not so minor, for ALL
> >new cars sold in the US is about .0124% in the first three
> >years.
>
> Then, on Thu, 04 Sep 2003 23:38:50 GMT, MikeHunt2@mailcity.com wrote:
>
> >. That statistics is on
> >failures that lead to a breakdown. ;)
>
> By 'breakdown' do you mean the car is undriveable? What happened to
> "minor and not so minor?" I would say that any failure that causes the
> car to be undriveable is not minor. The great majority of failures do
> not cause breakdowns in that sense.
>
> I am skeptical that even the breakdown rate is that low.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >mike hunt
> >
> >
> >Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> >>
> >> <StoneyMason@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3F567A14.D0E33CCB@mailcity.com...
> >> > If you would take the time to do some research, instead of
> >> > running off at the mouth all the time, you would discover the
> >> > mean average failure rate, minor and not so minor, for ALL
> >> > new cars sold in the US is about .0124% in the first three
> >> > years.
> >>
> >> Wow.
> >>
> >> Where did you come up with this figure?

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

Me too! I don't really think you would actually do you own
homework. It is much easier to believe what you want to believe
;)


mike hunt



Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3F57CB60.D642AE05@mailcity.com...
> > Do some research on, statistics in the market place. One can
> > find statistics on anything, if you look.. That statistics is on
> > failures that lead to a breakdown. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
>
> Perfectly untraceable. I expected nothing less!

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

Me too! I don't really think you would actually do you own
homework. It is much easier to believe what you want to believe
;)


mike hunt



Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3F57CB60.D642AE05@mailcity.com...
> > Do some research on, statistics in the market place. One can
> > find statistics on anything, if you look.. That statistics is on
> > failures that lead to a breakdown. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
>
> Perfectly untraceable. I expected nothing less!

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

So is your name Pete or Rick? I've seen you post both ways.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:10:54 -0700, "Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Chip,
>
>Another question. What's up with the internal filter on the transmission?
>Does this mean it's never changed?
>This can't be a good thing.
>
>Rick
>

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

So is your name Pete or Rick? I've seen you post both ways.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:10:54 -0700, "Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Chip,
>
>Another question. What's up with the internal filter on the transmission?
>Does this mean it's never changed?
>This can't be a good thing.
>
>Rick
>

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

"PJ" <pjspamcan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:kaghlvs5jllbqkkkjs86gmh9840lpfe7lj@4ax.com...
> So is your name Pete or Rick? I've seen you post both ways.
>
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:10:54 -0700, "Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Chip,
> >
> >Another question. What's up with the internal filter on the transmission?
> >Does this mean it's never changed?
> >This can't be a good thing.
> >
> >Rick

It depends on which of my alter egos is feeling frisky that day :-)

Pete's a nickname. Rick's my real name.

Rick

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

"PJ" <pjspamcan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:kaghlvs5jllbqkkkjs86gmh9840lpfe7lj@4ax.com...
> So is your name Pete or Rick? I've seen you post both ways.
>
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:10:54 -0700, "Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Chip,
> >
> >Another question. What's up with the internal filter on the transmission?
> >Does this mean it's never changed?
> >This can't be a good thing.
> >
> >Rick

It depends on which of my alter egos is feeling frisky that day :-)

Pete's a nickname. Rick's my real name.

Rick

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

"Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bip9vq$bucq3$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> "Dick" <rhughes33@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:kikvkv070jmt800fi32qbsdc2jg0gbb0cg@4ax.com...
> > The procedure for the V6 is similar.
> >
> > If the line pressure is OK, replace the Lock-up Control Solenoid
> > Assembly set and the A/T clutch pressure control solenoid valve A/B
> > assembly.
> >
> > Turn the ignition switch OFF and reset the PCM memory by removing the
> > BACK UP fuse in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box for more
> > than 10 seconds.
> >
> > Using the scan tool, check to be sure that the engine coolant
> > temperature is 176F or above.
> >
> > Drive the vehicle at 55 mpg constantly for more than one minute.
> >
> > Recheck for code P0740.
> >
> > THEN, if the code is still there, replace the transmission and torque
> > converter. Do the checks first.
> >
> > Dick
>
> Dick,
>
> Thanks for the info. Is replacing the solenoid assembly commonly the whole
> cure? How much does this procedure normally cost?
>
> Rick


Well folks, I just went to the dealer to pick up my car, which I
dropped off yesterday for it's first oil change and some rattles. I
also asked them to check the tranny because it took a bit to engage
into drive from P, R or N(1 2 second delay to engage D). No biggie, I
thought... I was hoping that they would say that this is
normal.....been like this from day #1 Nope, "Re manufactured
Transmission" has been ordered. Service told me that this is not
"normal". They also told me that they have replaced transmissions on
other '03's. I didn't ask for details but I did want to let you all
know because I have seen posts on these boards with this same symptom.
Question: They tell me that a "Re manufactured Transmission" is not a
"re built transmission" because ALL the innards are new (perhaps used
casing) and it's not assembled in an assembly line, but rather by
humans at Honda motors... Is this true? I also demanded a new torque
converter.. they told me that Honda only sends them as together to
eliminate contamination concerns. Does anyone have the facts on these
two items? Anyone out there work or have worked in Service? Lastly,
has anyone had a tranny replaced before? If so, what everything right
after that major repair (alignment, rattles, no damage, etc.) They
tell me that the car will not need wheel alignment. Can anyone confirm
that? Sorry for the long post, but given all the tranny issues and
questions, I thought the replies to this one would be helpful for
others as well. Thanks!

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

"Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bip9vq$bucq3$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> "Dick" <rhughes33@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:kikvkv070jmt800fi32qbsdc2jg0gbb0cg@4ax.com...
> > The procedure for the V6 is similar.
> >
> > If the line pressure is OK, replace the Lock-up Control Solenoid
> > Assembly set and the A/T clutch pressure control solenoid valve A/B
> > assembly.
> >
> > Turn the ignition switch OFF and reset the PCM memory by removing the
> > BACK UP fuse in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box for more
> > than 10 seconds.
> >
> > Using the scan tool, check to be sure that the engine coolant
> > temperature is 176F or above.
> >
> > Drive the vehicle at 55 mpg constantly for more than one minute.
> >
> > Recheck for code P0740.
> >
> > THEN, if the code is still there, replace the transmission and torque
> > converter. Do the checks first.
> >
> > Dick
>
> Dick,
>
> Thanks for the info. Is replacing the solenoid assembly commonly the whole
> cure? How much does this procedure normally cost?
>
> Rick


Well folks, I just went to the dealer to pick up my car, which I
dropped off yesterday for it's first oil change and some rattles. I
also asked them to check the tranny because it took a bit to engage
into drive from P, R or N(1 2 second delay to engage D). No biggie, I
thought... I was hoping that they would say that this is
normal.....been like this from day #1 Nope, "Re manufactured
Transmission" has been ordered. Service told me that this is not
"normal". They also told me that they have replaced transmissions on
other '03's. I didn't ask for details but I did want to let you all
know because I have seen posts on these boards with this same symptom.
Question: They tell me that a "Re manufactured Transmission" is not a
"re built transmission" because ALL the innards are new (perhaps used
casing) and it's not assembled in an assembly line, but rather by
humans at Honda motors... Is this true? I also demanded a new torque
converter.. they told me that Honda only sends them as together to
eliminate contamination concerns. Does anyone have the facts on these
two items? Anyone out there work or have worked in Service? Lastly,
has anyone had a tranny replaced before? If so, what everything right
after that major repair (alignment, rattles, no damage, etc.) They
tell me that the car will not need wheel alignment. Can anyone confirm
that? Sorry for the long post, but given all the tranny issues and
questions, I thought the replies to this one would be helpful for
others as well. Thanks!

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

"Pete" <pete_nagurski@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bip9vq$bucq3$1@ID-194065.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> "Dick" <rhughes33@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:kikvkv070jmt800fi32qbsdc2jg0gbb0cg@4ax.com...
> > The procedure for the V6 is similar.
> >
> > If the line pressure is OK, replace the Lock-up Control Solenoid
> > Assembly set and the A/T clutch pressure control solenoid valve A/B
> > assembly.
> >
> > Turn the ignition switch OFF and reset the PCM memory by removing the
> > BACK UP fuse in the passenger's under-dash fuse/relay box for more
> > than 10 seconds.
> >
> > Using the scan tool, check to be sure that the engine coolant
> > temperature is 176F or above.
> >
> > Drive the vehicle at 55 mpg constantly for more than one minute.
> >
> > Recheck for code P0740.
> >
> > THEN, if the code is still there, replace the transmission and torque
> > converter. Do the checks first.
> >
> > Dick
>
> Dick,
>
> Thanks for the info. Is replacing the solenoid assembly commonly the whole
> cure? How much does this procedure normally cost?
>
> Rick


Well folks, I just went to the dealer to pick up my car, which I
dropped off yesterday for it's first oil change and some rattles. I
also asked them to check the tranny because it took a bit to engage
into drive from P, R or N(1 2 second delay to engage D). No biggie, I
thought... I was hoping that they would say that this is
normal.....been like this from day #1 Nope, "Re manufactured
Transmission" has been ordered. Service told me that this is not
"normal". They also told me that they have replaced transmissions on
other '03's. I didn't ask for details but I did want to let you all
know because I have seen posts on these boards with this same symptom.
Question: They tell me that a "Re manufactured Transmission" is not a
"re built transmission" because ALL the innards are new (perhaps used
casing) and it's not assembled in an assembly line, but rather by
humans at Honda motors... Is this true? I also demanded a new torque
converter.. they told me that Honda only sends them as together to
eliminate contamination concerns. Does anyone have the facts on these
two items? Anyone out there work or have worked in Service? Lastly,
has anyone had a tranny replaced before? If so, what everything right
after that major repair (alignment, rattles, no damage, etc.) They
tell me that the car will not need wheel alignment. Can anyone confirm
that? Sorry for the long post, but given all the tranny issues and
questions, I thought the replies to this one would be helpful for
others as well. Thanks!

Re: 1999 Accord V6 transmission problems
 

"NetSock" <NetSock@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<bj2tm2$kf3$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>...
> <IleneDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3F5212D4.890C3B66@mailcity.com...
> > Question! Does anyone think a 2% failure rate for ANYTHING, on
> > 20,000 cars out of 1,000,000, is extremely high, average or do
> > you think it is low? Think about it, there are 18 million new
> > vehicles sold in the US yearly. Apply a little logic here. That
> > 54 to 72 million cars still in warranty. ;)
>
> Answer! Don't feed the American car mark troll.

Agree, that guy is a looser, BIG TIME. I'm tired of waiting through
all of his nonsensical posts. Yes, Mike Hunt, that be you. MTFWTAW