2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of engine
braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep asking
the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for service
but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of highway
everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it normal?

Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side. I
think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I touch
it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes. What
can be wrong?


Ford Cortina Mark III
Citreon BX
Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
BMW 318tds
Subaru Legacy
Honda CR-V

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep
>asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for
>service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>normal?
>
> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side.
> I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I
> touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes.
> What can be wrong?
>
>
> Ford Cortina Mark III
> Citreon BX
> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
> BMW 318tds
> Subaru Legacy
> Honda CR-V
>
>
You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the
wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of
revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will
find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives
out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is
suspicious at least.

Mike

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep
>asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for
>service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>normal?
>
> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side.
> I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I
> touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes.
> What can be wrong?
>
>
> Ford Cortina Mark III
> Citreon BX
> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
> BMW 318tds
> Subaru Legacy
> Honda CR-V
>
>
You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the
wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of
revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will
find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives
out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is
suspicious at least.

Mike

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the next
service.

Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy?


"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnS5jNeTF_oTfRVn-vw@sedona.net...
> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>normal?
>>
>> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>> side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>> I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>> brakes. What can be wrong?
>>
>>
>> Ford Cortina Mark III
>> Citreon BX
>> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>> BMW 318tds
>> Subaru Legacy
>> Honda CR-V
>>
>>
> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the
> wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number
> of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you
> will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin
> lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling
> the heat there is suspicious at least.
>
> Mike
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the next
service.

Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy?


"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnS5jNeTF_oTfRVn-vw@sedona.net...
> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>normal?
>>
>> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>> side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>> I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>> brakes. What can be wrong?
>>
>>
>> Ford Cortina Mark III
>> Citreon BX
>> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>> BMW 318tds
>> Subaru Legacy
>> Honda CR-V
>>
>>
> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the
> wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number
> of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you
> will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin
> lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling
> the heat there is suspicious at least.
>
> Mike
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:QMdSd.27807$ya6.5293@trndny01...
> Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the
next
> service.
>
> Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy?

Yes, but just lately. I have a 2003 EX with about 17K on it. It seems to
feel like the tires are way underinflated (they're not) or the brakes are
dragging (again, they're not). Was starting to think it was just me.

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:QMdSd.27807$ya6.5293@trndny01...
> Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the
next
> service.
>
> Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy?

Yes, but just lately. I have a 2003 EX with about 17K on it. It seems to
feel like the tires are way underinflated (they're not) or the brakes are
dragging (again, they're not). Was starting to think it was just me.

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>
>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep
>>asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for
>>service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>normal?
>>
>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side.
>>I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I
>>touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes.
>>What can be wrong?
>>
>>
>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>Citreon BX
>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>BMW 318tds
>>Subaru Legacy
>>Honda CR-V
>>
>>
>
> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the
> wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of
> revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will
> find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives
> out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is
> suspicious at least.
>
> Mike
>
------------------------------

Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential
will resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset,
but the CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the
way it saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot
off the gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump
Fluid (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd
change the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.

LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully)
feel the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear
right, like you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.

'Curly'

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>
>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep
>>asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for
>>service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>normal?
>>
>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side.
>>I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I
>>touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes.
>>What can be wrong?
>>
>>
>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>Citreon BX
>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>BMW 318tds
>>Subaru Legacy
>>Honda CR-V
>>
>>
>
> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the
> wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of
> revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will
> find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives
> out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is
> suspicious at least.
>
> Mike
>
------------------------------

Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential
will resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset,
but the CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the
way it saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot
off the gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump
Fluid (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd
change the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.

LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully)
feel the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear
right, like you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.

'Curly'

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>
>>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>>normal?
>>>
>>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>>>brakes. What can be wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>>Citreon BX
>>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>>BMW 318tds
>>>Subaru Legacy
>>>Honda CR-V
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning
>> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the
>> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear
>> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide
>> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk.
>> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least.
>>
>> Mike
> ------------------------------
>
> Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will
> resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the
> CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it
> saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the
> gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid
> (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change
> the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.
>
> LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel
> the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like
> you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.
>
> 'Curly'
>
Ahh... thanks for setting me straight, Curly. That's the strength of the
groups - we are always learning!

Mike

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>
>>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>>normal?
>>>
>>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>>>brakes. What can be wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>>Citreon BX
>>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>>BMW 318tds
>>>Subaru Legacy
>>>Honda CR-V
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning
>> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the
>> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear
>> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide
>> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk.
>> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least.
>>
>> Mike
> ------------------------------
>
> Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will
> resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the
> CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it
> saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the
> gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid
> (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change
> the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.
>
> LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel
> the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like
> you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.
>
> 'Curly'
>
Ahh... thanks for setting me straight, Curly. That's the strength of the
groups - we are always learning!

Mike

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Hey Curly.

What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the
throttle, I was not aware of that.

Tom


"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>
>>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>>normal?
>>>
>>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>>>brakes. What can be wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>>Citreon BX
>>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>>BMW 318tds
>>>Subaru Legacy
>>>Honda CR-V
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning
>> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the
>> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear
>> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide
>> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk.
>> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least.
>>
>> Mike
> ------------------------------
>
> Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will
> resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the
> CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it
> saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the
> gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid
> (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change
> the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.
>
> LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel
> the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like
> you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.
>
> 'Curly'
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Hey Curly.

What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the
throttle, I was not aware of that.

Tom


"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>
>>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>>normal?
>>>
>>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>>>brakes. What can be wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>>Citreon BX
>>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>>BMW 318tds
>>>Subaru Legacy
>>>Honda CR-V
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning
>> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the
>> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear
>> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide
>> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk.
>> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least.
>>
>> Mike
> ------------------------------
>
> Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will
> resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the
> CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it
> saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the
> gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid
> (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change
> the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.
>
> LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel
> the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like
> you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.
>
> 'Curly'
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

twfsa wrote:
> Hey Curly.
>
> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the
> throttle, I was not aware of that.
>
> Tom


--------------------------

Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300
when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just
before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and
the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the
way you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97.

It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much
like a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time.

Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II
of the CR-V.

'Curly'

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

twfsa wrote:
> Hey Curly.
>
> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the
> throttle, I was not aware of that.
>
> Tom


--------------------------

Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300
when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just
before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and
the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the
way you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97.

It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much
like a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time.

Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II
of the CR-V.

'Curly'