Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the
dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual
Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K
miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the
"heaviness" is normal or not.

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>
>>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>>normal?
>>>
>>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>>>brakes. What can be wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>>Citreon BX
>>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>>BMW 318tds
>>>Subaru Legacy
>>>Honda CR-V
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning
>> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the
>> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear
>> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide
>> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk.
>> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least.
>>
>> Mike
> ------------------------------
>
> Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will
> resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the
> CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it
> saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the
> gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid
> (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change
> the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.
>
> LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel
> the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like
> you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.
>
> 'Curly'
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the
dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual
Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K
miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the
"heaviness" is normal or not.

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>>
>>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
>>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
>>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
>>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in
>>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of
>>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it
>>>normal?
>>>
>>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
>>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when
>>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the
>>>brakes. What can be wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ford Cortina Mark III
>>>Citreon BX
>>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
>>>BMW 318tds
>>>Subaru Legacy
>>>Honda CR-V
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning
>> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the
>> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear
>> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide
>> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk.
>> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least.
>>
>> Mike
> ------------------------------
>
> Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will
> resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the
> CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it
> saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the
> gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid
> (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change
> the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles.
>
> LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel
> the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like
> you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation.
>
> 'Curly'
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

LC wrote:
> It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the
> dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual
> Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K
> miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the
> "heaviness" is normal or not.
>
----------------------------

Changing the fluid at that mileage is not 'standard', but time and
experience has proven that many users start getting bad noises around
30,000 Miles, so it must be a 'prudent' idea. It won't make your CR-V
feel lighter, or coast better, but since you're going to have it up on
the hoist anyhow, it's a good preventative measure for troublefree driving.

Hopefully the dealer will find out if your brakes are dragging. Let us know.

'Curly'

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

LC wrote:
> It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the
> dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual
> Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K
> miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the
> "heaviness" is normal or not.
>
----------------------------

Changing the fluid at that mileage is not 'standard', but time and
experience has proven that many users start getting bad noises around
30,000 Miles, so it must be a 'prudent' idea. It won't make your CR-V
feel lighter, or coast better, but since you're going to have it up on
the hoist anyhow, it's a good preventative measure for troublefree driving.

Hopefully the dealer will find out if your brakes are dragging. Let us know.

'Curly'

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:BQuSd.244$Sn6.70@lakeread03:

> Hey Curly.
>
> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off
> the throttle, I was not aware of that.


Every year, make and model of fuel-injected car since about the 80s.

The injectors are shut off when you take your foot off the gas when the
engine is above (typically) between 2,000 and 2,500 rpm depending on make
and model. This is done to reduce emissions and improve fuel mileage.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:BQuSd.244$Sn6.70@lakeread03:

> Hey Curly.
>
> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off
> the throttle, I was not aware of that.


Every year, make and model of fuel-injected car since about the 80s.

The injectors are shut off when you take your foot off the gas when the
engine is above (typically) between 2,000 and 2,500 rpm depending on make
and model. This is done to reduce emissions and improve fuel mileage.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Most Hondas and Acuras do that to save gas. My 94 Acura Vigor does it. It's
even in the Service manual.



"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A8040.4000108@interbaun.com...
> twfsa wrote:
>> Hey Curly.
>>
>> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off
>> the throttle, I was not aware of that.
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> --------------------------
>
> Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300
> when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just
> before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and
> the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the way
> you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97.
>
> It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much like
> a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time.
>
> Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II of
> the CR-V.
>
> 'Curly'
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

Most Hondas and Acuras do that to save gas. My 94 Acura Vigor does it. It's
even in the Service manual.



"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A8040.4000108@interbaun.com...
> twfsa wrote:
>> Hey Curly.
>>
>> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off
>> the throttle, I was not aware of that.
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> --------------------------
>
> Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300
> when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just
> before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and
> the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the way
> you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97.
>
> It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much like
> a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time.
>
> Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II of
> the CR-V.
>
> 'Curly'
>

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05:

> I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
> engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
> engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
> keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it
> in for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50
> miles of highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than
> 23mpg. Is it normal?
>
> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
> side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot
> when I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on
> the brakes. What can be wrong?
>
>
> Ford Cortina Mark III
> Citreon BX
> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
> BMW 318tds
> Subaru Legacy
> Honda CR-V
>
>
>

I get 22 consistently and I'm happy with that considering how fast I
drive. Occasionally, it goes up over 23.

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05:

> I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
> engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of
> engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I
> keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it
> in for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50
> miles of highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than
> 23mpg. Is it normal?
>
> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's
> side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot
> when I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on
> the brakes. What can be wrong?
>
>
> Ford Cortina Mark III
> Citreon BX
> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel
> BMW 318tds
> Subaru Legacy
> Honda CR-V
>
>
>

I get 22 consistently and I'm happy with that considering how fast I
drive. Occasionally, it goes up over 23.

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ?

D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ?

D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

David and Tracey Mills wrote:
> If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ?
>
> D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.
>
you're kidding, right? as a "licensed automotive technician", what
value do you think is achieved by injecting fuel into a closed throttle
if the vehicle's coasting above 2000rpm?

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

David and Tracey Mills wrote:
> If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ?
>
> D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician.
>
you're kidding, right? as a "licensed automotive technician", what
value do you think is achieved by injecting fuel into a closed throttle
if the vehicle's coasting above 2000rpm?

Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
 

"TeGGer®" wrote:
> > What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off
> > the throttle, I was not aware of that.
>
> Every year, make and model of fuel-injected car since about the 80s.

Even some some carburated engines had fuel shut off (before their breed
went extinct). Auto mechanics loved working on those electronically
controlled carburetors...

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