Jeff Strickland

"Paul" <atreides@sleeper.ru> wrote in message
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> SeaWoe wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 6:01 pm, "MG" <rebore78...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>> "Car Tips" <t...@tips4you.org> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:qPplm.152688$FP2.134936@newsfe05.iad...
>>> 5 Tips On Making Your Car More Fuel Efficient
>>>
>>> With gas prices sky high most individuals who drive are interested
>>> in ways they can make their car more fuel efficient and save as much
>>> money as possible. While there are no fuel saving tips that will
>>> keep your car full of gas without filling up, there are some tips
>>> that really can help you save money on fuel over the long run. All
>>> of these tips focus on making your car more fuel efficient.
>>>
>>> Fuel Efficiency Tip #1 Drive When You Crank Up This might seem
>>> obvious, but as soon as you crank up your car you should drive off.
>>> However, many people crank up and leave the car idling for a while.
>>> Instead of this, when you crank up drive off and only keep your car
>>> running when it is absolutely necessary.
>>>
>>> Fuel Efficiency Tip #2 Don't Ride the Break Many drivers hit the
>>> break more often than is necessary. Additionally there are quite a
>>> few drivers that slow down for a braking car when they could easily
>>> switch lanes. Not riding the break can increase your fuel efficiency
>>> by up to 30%, so this is a great tip you should follow.
>>>
>>> Fuel Efficiency Tip #3 Turn Off Your Car If you are going to be
>>> stopping for more than 10 minutes you should switch off your car to
>>> keep fuel efficiency at its peak and not burn more gas than is
>>> necessary. Fuel Efficiency Tip #4 Don't Turn Off Your Car If you are
>>> only
>>> stopping for a brief moment or less than 5 minutes then don't turn
>>> off your car because the amount of gas used to crank up is more than
>>> you would burn in that short period of time.
>>>
>>> Fuel Efficiency Tip #5 Inflate Tires Properly Too many drivers never
>>> think of their tires, unless one goes flat. However, having tires
>>> that are properly inflated can save fuel and make your car more fuel
>>> efficient, saving you money. Because of this, you should check your
>>> tire pressure on a regular basis.
>>>
>>> While gas prices don't seem like they will be dipping considerably
>>> in the next few months every tip to help you make your car more fuel
>>> efficient is helpful. So, follow the above fuel tips and you will
>>> see that over time your car really is more fuel efficient.
>>>
>>> http://www.tips4you.org/car/
>>>
>>> --
>>> for more tips please visit...http://Tips4You.org
>>>
>>> I'd believe anyone who spelled brake "break."
>>
>> It seems to me that several vehcle manufacturers made cars that would
>> turn off the engine if idles for more than a set time, unless overrid
>> by the driver. That disagres with one of your ideas.
>
> I wouldn't believe anyone who spells 'vehicle' "vehcle", etc.
>


Break instead of brake is a far bigger error than missing a keystroke.
Having said that, there are many other errors in the post you are replying
to.

<quote with EDITS>
It seems to me that IF several vehcle manufacturers made cars that would
turn off the engine if idles for more than a set time, unless overridEN by
the driver. That disagrEes with one of your ideas.

</quote with edits>

And the self-appointed Grammar Police aren't even looking at punctuation or
the lack thereof.

Jeff

On Aug 28, 12:18 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Jeff" <jeff....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:278c1309-e43d-46a0-8d6b-8defe44768ea@c14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Many hybrids stop their engines at stoplights. But, the have special
> starters that are more durable than regular starters.
>
> Jeff
>
> <JS>
> What?
>
> They operate under that condition on an electric motor and battery power,
> and don't restart the gasoline engine until they get up to speed, or the
> battery condition deteriorates. That's the whole point of Hybrid -- it can
> go in Stop-N-Go traffic for many miles on the batteries. It does not care
> that the stop is a traffic light or a pile-up on the freeway, all it knows
> is that it isn't moving, or is moving slowly, and the batteries are strong
> enough that the gasoline engine is not needed.
>
> This has nothing at all to do with the premise that they are equipped with
> more durable starters. They may or may not be so equipped, but that is not
> why the gasoline engine is switched off.
>
> </JS>

You're correct, of course. My point was that to start a gasoline
engine many times, the starter has to be more durable than a regular
starter. In fact, the Prius uses one of its motor-generators as a
starter. I was just using hybrids as an example of engines that may
have more durable starters than normal engines. Not all hybrids have
engines that stop at stoplights, and not all hybrids are able to be
driven on battery power alone, either. It depends on the car or truck.

hls

"Paul" <atreides@sleeper.ru> wrote in message news:Y-qdnUg9IKQ-
>> It seems to me that several vehcle manufacturers made cars that would
>> turn off the engine if idles for more than a set time, unless overrid
>> by the driver. That disagres with one of your ideas.
>
> I wouldn't believe anyone who spells 'vehicle' "vehcle", etc.

It is just a typo. Dont get your panties in a wad.

Dillon Pyron

Thus spake "Car Tips" <tips@tips4you.org> :

>5 Tips On Making Your Car More Fuel Efficient
>
>With gas prices sky high most individuals who drive are interested in ways they can make their car more fuel efficient and save as much money as possible. While there are no fuel saving tips that will keep your car full of gas without filling up, there are some tips that really can help you save money on fuel over the long run. All of these tips focus on making your car more fuel efficient.
>
>Fuel Efficiency Tip #1 Drive When You Crank Up This might seem obvious, but as soon as you crank up your car you should drive off. However, many people crank up and leave the car idling for a while. Instead of this, when you crank up drive off and only keep your car running when it is absolutely necessary.

Not entirely true. While it doesn't matter a whit if your car is
garged in Austin in August, a car parked in the driveway in Indy in
February might benefit from a little run in to get the oil "up to
temp". But not long.

>
>Fuel Efficiency Tip #2 Don't Ride the Break Many drivers hit the break more often than is necessary. Additionally there are quite a few drivers that slow down for a braking car when they could easily switch lanes. Not riding the break can increase your fuel efficiency by up to 30%, so this is a great tip you should follow.

Right. Switching lanes is likely to get you whacked if you aren't
looking. And if you are looking while the guy ahead is braking, you
could whack him when his braking goes from drag to stomp.

But you can back peddle and still keep your distance.

And, for such an automotive expert, it's "brake", not "break".


>
>Fuel Efficiency Tip #3 Turn Off Your Car If you are going to be stopping for more than 10 minutes you should switch off your car to keep fuel efficiency at its peak and not burn more gas than is necessary.
>
>Fuel Efficiency Tip #4 Don't Turn Off Your Car If you are only stopping for a brief moment or less than 5 minutes then don't turn off your car because the amount of gas used to crank up is more than you would burn in that short period of time.

#3 is kind of right, but #4 is off by a bunch. The numbers are
usually around 2 minutes. If you're idling for 8 minutes you're
tossing a bunch of money out the tailpipe.

The 5 minute rule used to apply when US cars were 300+ CID V8s with
four barrel carbs.

>
>Fuel Efficiency Tip #5 Inflate Tires Properly Too many drivers never think of their tires, unless one goes flat. However, having tires that are properly inflated can save fuel and make your car more fuel efficient, saving you money. Because of this, you should check your tire pressure on a regular basis.

Gee, ya think?

>
>While gas prices don't seem like they will be dipping considerably in the next few months every tip to help you make your car more fuel efficient is helpful. So, follow the above fuel tips and you will see that over time your car really is more fuel efficient.
>
>http://www.tips4you.org/car/
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

Dillon Pyron

Thus spake Michael <mrdarrett@gmail.com> :

>On Aug 27, 9:16 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Elle" <honda.lion...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:25564a29-e616-4249-9877-39554cd4b209@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 27, 12:42 am, "Car Tips" <t...@tips4you.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Fuel Efficiency Tip #4 Don't Turn Off Your Car
>> > If you are only stopping for a brief moment or less than 5 minutes then
>> > don't turn off your car because the amount of gas used to crank up is more
>> > than you would burn in that short period of time.
>>
>> I do not think this is true, at least for Hondas. I believe I saw
>> reports last year, when gas was around $4 a gallon, of people stopping
>> their engines at stoplights lasting just a couple minutes, and it made
>> a big difference in gas savings. I have a friend who tried this and
>> saw a big increase in MPG.
>>
>> <JS>
>> I'm not sure I agree with the idea of shutting the car off in traffic, but
>> shutting it off in the drive thru lane makes loads of sense.
>>
>> </JS>
>
>
>Instead of using the drive-thru, parking the car then walking into the
>fast food joint should save even more gas.
>
>(grin)
>
>Michael

The few times I hit fast "food" joints, I've found myself walking in,
ordering, paying, grabbing the bag and walking out before the 'Burb
that came in behind me gets to the window.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

Dillon Pyron

Thus spake Jeff <jeff.utz@gmail.com> :

>On Aug 28, 12:18 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Jeff" <jeff....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:278c1309-e43d-46a0-8d6b-8defe44768ea@c14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Many hybrids stop their engines at stoplights. But, the have special
>> starters that are more durable than regular starters.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> <JS>
>> What?
>>
>> They operate under that condition on an electric motor and battery power,
>> and don't restart the gasoline engine until they get up to speed, or the
>> battery condition deteriorates. That's the whole point of Hybrid -- it can
>> go in Stop-N-Go traffic for many miles on the batteries. It does not care
>> that the stop is a traffic light or a pile-up on the freeway, all it knows
>> is that it isn't moving, or is moving slowly, and the batteries are strong
>> enough that the gasoline engine is not needed.
>>
>> This has nothing at all to do with the premise that they are equipped with
>> more durable starters. They may or may not be so equipped, but that is not
>> why the gasoline engine is switched off.
>>
>> </JS>
>
>You're correct, of course. My point was that to start a gasoline
>engine many times, the starter has to be more durable than a regular
>starter. In fact, the Prius uses one of its motor-generators as a
>starter. I was just using hybrids as an example of engines that may
>have more durable starters than normal engines. Not all hybrids have
>engines that stop at stoplights, and not all hybrids are able to be
>driven on battery power alone, either. It depends on the car or truck.

I could have sworn that one of the imports had such a system. Sube?
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

Dillon Pyron

Thus spake "ah" <ahatnsdapdotcom> :

>Tip #2: It's brakes, not breaks. Braking, not breaking.
>

If you rear-end the guy ahead of you, he's doing the breaking for you.
Oops, you're the one doing the breaking, he's doing the braking.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

Tony Harding

Paul wrote:
> SeaWoe wrote:

<snip>

>> It seems to me that several vehcle manufacturers made cars that would
>> turn off the engine if idles for more than a set time, unless overrid
>> by the driver. That disagres with one of your ideas.
>
> I wouldn't believe anyone who spells 'vehicle' "vehcle", etc.

You might look up "typo" and consider if it might apply.

larry moe 'n curly

Jeff wrote:

> My point was that to start a gasoline engine many times, the
> starter has to be more durable than a regular starter. In fact,
> the Prius uses one of its motor-generators as a starter. I
> was just using hybrids as an example of engines that may
> have more durable starters than normal engines. Not all hybrids have
> engines that stop at stoplights, and not all hybrids are able to be
> driven on battery power alone, either. It depends on the car or truck.

My Ford Escort's starter konked at 25,000 miles with a big short, and
the windings were coated with powder from the brushes.

The post office made letter carriers turn off the engine at every mail
box, and a few times a year our carrier would have to wait for a jump
start. Apparently they weren't allowed to accept jump starts from the
public. This is the same post office that had its trucks use snow
tires throughout the year, even here in Phoenix.

Sharx35

"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> My point was that to start a gasoline engine many times, the
>> starter has to be more durable than a regular starter. In fact,
>> the Prius uses one of its motor-generators as a starter. I
>> was just using hybrids as an example of engines that may
>> have more durable starters than normal engines. Not all hybrids have
>> engines that stop at stoplights, and not all hybrids are able to be
>> driven on battery power alone, either. It depends on the car or truck.
>
> My Ford Escort's starter konked at 25,000 miles with a big short, and
> the windings were coated with powder from the brushes.
>
> The post office made letter carriers turn off the engine at every mail
> box, and a few times a year our carrier would have to wait for a jump
> start. Apparently they weren't allowed to accept jump starts from the
> public. This is the same post office that had its trucks use snow
> tires throughout the year, even here in Phoenix.

It snows in Phoenix THAT often, eh? Must be global warming. Sarcasm switch
now switched to OFF.

Stewart

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:25564a29-e616-4249-9877-39554cd4b209@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 27, 12:42 am, "Car Tips" <t...@tips4you.org> wrote:
>> Fuel Efficiency Tip #4 Don't Turn Off Your Car
>> If you are only stopping for a brief moment or less than 5 minutes
>> then don't turn off your car because the amount of gas used to
>> crank up is more than you would burn in that short period of time.
>
> I do not think this is true, at least for Hondas. I believe I saw
> reports last year, when gas was around $4 a gallon, of people
> stopping
> their engines at stoplights lasting just a couple minutes, and it
> made
> a big difference in gas savings. I have a friend who tried this and
> saw a big increase in MPG.
>
>
>
> <JS>
> I'm not sure I agree with the idea of shutting the car off in
> traffic, but shutting it off in the drive thru lane makes loads of
> sense.
>
> </JS>

Older carb systems used more gas to start the car. Fuel injection
systems with automatic choke no longer require one to push the gas
pedal when starting.
>
>
>
>