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Voyager 01-20-2004 06:22 AM

'89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Any ideas what this might be???

He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all
of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd
or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!

any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?

THANK YOU!!! Jerry



Jafir Elkurd 01-20-2004 08:15 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this?

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Jafir Elkurd 01-20-2004 08:15 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this?

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Jafir Elkurd 01-20-2004 08:15 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this?

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Jafir Elkurd 01-20-2004 08:15 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this?

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Graham W 01-20-2004 11:19 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
> sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the
> car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking
> spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp
> while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I
> put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and
> small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud
> noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud
> grinding noise.!!!


I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK).

The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore
the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems
the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly
at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip
hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went
fully home.


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Graham W 01-20-2004 11:19 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
> sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the
> car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking
> spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp
> while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I
> put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and
> small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud
> noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud
> grinding noise.!!!


I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK).

The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore
the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems
the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly
at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip
hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went
fully home.


--
Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ XP1800+ Page added, Graphics Tutorial
WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter.

Graham W 01-20-2004 11:19 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
> sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the
> car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking
> spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp
> while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I
> put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and
> small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud
> noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud
> grinding noise.!!!


I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK).

The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore
the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems
the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly
at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip
hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went
fully home.


--
Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ XP1800+ Page added, Graphics Tutorial
WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter.

Graham W 01-20-2004 11:19 AM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
> sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the
> car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking
> spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp
> while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I
> put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and
> small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud
> noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud
> grinding noise.!!!


I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK).

The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore
the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems
the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly
at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip
hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went
fully home.


--
Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ XP1800+ Page added, Graphics Tutorial
WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter.

N.E.Ohio Bob 01-20-2004 12:05 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
 
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp.
bob

N.E.Ohio Bob 01-20-2004 12:05 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
 
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp.
bob

N.E.Ohio Bob 01-20-2004 12:05 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
 
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp.
bob

N.E.Ohio Bob 01-20-2004 12:05 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
 
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp.
bob

Yuri Nebogatov 01-20-2004 12:28 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum

I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding
too.
The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and
differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a
costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
Sorry bud.

By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
hard is a front differential replacement?
Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
mentionned in this post.




"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Yuri Nebogatov 01-20-2004 12:28 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum

I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding
too.
The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and
differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a
costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
Sorry bud.

By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
hard is a front differential replacement?
Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
mentionned in this post.




"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>





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