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null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de 01-20-2004 03:45 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
>hard is a front differential replacement?
>Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
>can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
>do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
>I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
>mentionned in this post.


Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off
(for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should
be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal
trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a
guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard.
Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch
disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura
where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some
pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved.

null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de 01-20-2004 03:45 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
>hard is a front differential replacement?
>Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
>can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
>do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
>I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
>mentionned in this post.


Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off
(for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should
be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal
trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a
guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard.
Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch
disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura
where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some
pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved.

null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de 01-20-2004 03:45 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
>hard is a front differential replacement?
>Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
>can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
>do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
>I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
>mentionned in this post.


Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off
(for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should
be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal
trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a
guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard.
Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch
disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura
where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some
pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved.

Voyager 01-20-2004 04:29 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.

Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans.

Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car.
COLD and snowing every day....
I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look.


"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Voyager 01-20-2004 04:29 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.

Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans.

Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car.
COLD and snowing every day....
I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look.


"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Voyager 01-20-2004 04:29 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.

Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans.

Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car.
COLD and snowing every day....
I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look.


"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Voyager 01-20-2004 04:29 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.

Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans.

Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car.
COLD and snowing every day....
I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look.


"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>




Voyager 01-20-2004 04:32 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
No, no clicking or any thing odd before this. Also the car does steer
left and right.

Jerry


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com...
> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old

sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3

miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car

moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >

>
>




Voyager 01-20-2004 04:32 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
No, no clicking or any thing odd before this. Also the car does steer
left and right.

Jerry


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com...
> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old

sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3

miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car

moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >

>
>




Voyager 01-20-2004 04:32 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
No, no clicking or any thing odd before this. Also the car does steer
left and right.

Jerry


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com...
> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old

sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3

miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car

moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >

>
>




Voyager 01-20-2004 04:32 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 
No, no clicking or any thing odd before this. Also the car does steer
left and right.

Jerry


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com...
> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old

sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3

miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car

moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >

>
>




AMG 01-20-2004 05:03 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry



Coincidentally, we just had the CV joint on a VW break yesterday (!).
Here's the definitive giveaway: Look under the front of the car (assuming
FWD) and have someone let the clutch out slowly while the engine is running
(careful, don't get run over! brake on etc...). You'll see the driveshaft
going to wheel on broken side turn (look near the rubber boot) but the
car/wheel will not move. On opposite side (not broken) the shaft will not
turn. The differential is not transfering power to that shaft turning since
the car wheel is 'stalled'.

I our case $100 parts plus 2 hours labour estimated to repair it.



AMG 01-20-2004 05:03 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry



Coincidentally, we just had the CV joint on a VW break yesterday (!).
Here's the definitive giveaway: Look under the front of the car (assuming
FWD) and have someone let the clutch out slowly while the engine is running
(careful, don't get run over! brake on etc...). You'll see the driveshaft
going to wheel on broken side turn (look near the rubber boot) but the
car/wheel will not move. On opposite side (not broken) the shaft will not
turn. The differential is not transfering power to that shaft turning since
the car wheel is 'stalled'.

I our case $100 parts plus 2 hours labour estimated to repair it.



AMG 01-20-2004 05:03 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry



Coincidentally, we just had the CV joint on a VW break yesterday (!).
Here's the definitive giveaway: Look under the front of the car (assuming
FWD) and have someone let the clutch out slowly while the engine is running
(careful, don't get run over! brake on etc...). You'll see the driveshaft
going to wheel on broken side turn (look near the rubber boot) but the
car/wheel will not move. On opposite side (not broken) the shaft will not
turn. The differential is not transfering power to that shaft turning since
the car wheel is 'stalled'.

I our case $100 parts plus 2 hours labour estimated to repair it.



AMG 01-20-2004 05:03 PM

Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
 

"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and

all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no

fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry



Coincidentally, we just had the CV joint on a VW break yesterday (!).
Here's the definitive giveaway: Look under the front of the car (assuming
FWD) and have someone let the clutch out slowly while the engine is running
(careful, don't get run over! brake on etc...). You'll see the driveshaft
going to wheel on broken side turn (look near the rubber boot) but the
car/wheel will not move. On opposite side (not broken) the shaft will not
turn. The differential is not transfering power to that shaft turning since
the car wheel is 'stalled'.

I our case $100 parts plus 2 hours labour estimated to repair it.




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