Yuri Nebogatov

dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum

I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding
too.
The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and
differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a
costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
Sorry bud.

By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
hard is a front differential replacement?
Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
mentionned in this post.




"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>

Yuri Nebogatov

dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum

I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding
too.
The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and
differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a
costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
Sorry bud.

By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
hard is a front differential replacement?
Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
mentionned in this post.




"Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Any ideas what this might be???
>
> He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons
> car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles
> home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
all
> of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved
> but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
fwd
> or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
>
> any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
>
> THANK YOU!!! Jerry
>
>

Yuri Nebogatov

heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.
> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Yuri Nebogatov

heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.
> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Yuri Nebogatov

heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.
> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Yuri Nebogatov

heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.
> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.
> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Stephen Bigelow

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.

Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not.


> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.

$100 for a rebuilt axle.

> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic?

Yes.

Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return?

Naw. Just think it through, and get busy.

We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Stephen Bigelow

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.

Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not.


> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.

$100 for a rebuilt axle.

> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic?

Yes.

Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return?

Naw. Just think it through, and get busy.

We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Stephen Bigelow

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.

Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not.


> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.

$100 for a rebuilt axle.

> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic?

Yes.

Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return?

Naw. Just think it through, and get busy.

We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Stephen Bigelow

"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. .
> dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
> he's taking out his aggression in the forum
>
> I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally
> broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the
grinding
> too.

Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not.


> The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts
and
> differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning
> codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with
a
> costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car.

$100 for a rebuilt axle.

> Sorry bud.
>
> By the way I have some questions on this topic as well,
> to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
> Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
> hard is a front differential replacement?
> Is it doable by a beginner mechanic?

Yes.

Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
> can I easily screw up to a point of no return?

Naw. Just think it through, and get busy.

We would be 2 ppl to try to
> do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
> I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
> mentionned in this post.
>
>
>
>
> "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Any ideas what this might be???
> >
> > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old
sons
> > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3
miles
> > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like
> > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and
> all
> > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car
moved
> > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding
> > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no
> fwd
> > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!!
> >
> > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing?
> >
> > THANK YOU!!! Jerry
> >
> >
>
>

Andrew Smit

In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is
quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive
shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it
broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said

Andrew

Andrew Smit

In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is
quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive
shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it
broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said

Andrew

Andrew Smit

In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is
quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive
shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it
broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said

Andrew

Andrew Smit

In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote:

> Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
> in the months prior to this?
>
im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is
quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive
shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it
broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said

Andrew

null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de

>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how
>hard is a front differential replacement?
>Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or
>can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to
>do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics.
>I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones
>mentionned in this post.

Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off
(for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should
be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal
trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a
guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard.
Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch
disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura
where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some
pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved.