93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
#46
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
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> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
#47
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
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> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
news:6TZsg.7476$cd3.2652@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
#49
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
news:6TZsg.7476$cd3.2652@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
>> to stress this important fact I came across the other day:
>>
>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
>> uses PCM
>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>
> PCM = performance control module?
>
Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse Width Modulation.
Think "switch mode" and your mind will be free....
>
>
> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on electrically until the
> engine is warmed up?
>
>> before turning the alternator
>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>
> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at idle" statement?
>
Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
>> I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.
>
> I found the original quotation by a guy posting under "Mouse7088" at
> another forum but still can't quite follow it.
>
>
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
#51
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
#52
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
#53
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Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote
>>> I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up',
>>> but doesn't seem
>>> to stress this important fact I came across the other
>>> day:
>>>
>>> "a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda
>>> has been using an
>>> ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years
>>> or so. Honda
>>> uses PCM
>>> strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have
>>> learned to
>>> let the engine run a few minutes before checking
>>> alternator output (the
>>> PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize
>>
>> PCM = performance control module?
>>
>
> Pulse Code Modulation. I think it is a misnomer for Pulse
> Width Modulation. Think "switch mode" and your mind will
> be free....
I wish. I never had a good course in electronics.
>> The PCM prevents the alternator from turning on
>> electrically until the engine is warmed up?
>>
>>> before turning the alternator
>>> on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD
>>> relay to
>>> control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."
>>
>> What is he trying to say with the "no load, no work at
>> idle" statement?
>>
> Dunno - I never figured out what the ELD was for.
Shoot.
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