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madmanguruman@gmail.com 06-11-2007 12:25 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
On Jun 9, 11:02 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> madmanguru...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Running well hot, cold and during warmup? Good power and pickup?

>
> >> Was it a straight drop-in ,or did the mechanic have to monkey around with
> >> the brackets and fittings?

>
> >> Did all your engine sensors fit properly?

>
> > The replacement engine was fitted with a rebuilt distributor (with new
> > sensors) and a fresh timing belt. A new radiator was installed, as the
> > old one had the old-age corroded fin problem. The oil pressure sensor
> > was swapped from my old engine. No warnings, alarams, CELs -
> > everything seems to be running fine. It was a direct drop-in with no
> > modifications to the mounts, AFAIK, since the Z6 engine is from the
> > same model year.

>
> > There's definitely a note change between the two engines. The D15B7
> > sounded like an angry sewing machine. The D16Z6 actually has a more
> > respectable throaty growl going on.

>
> > The clown car is A/T so the acceleration gain isn't huge, but is
> > noticeable. The low-end torque seems to be greater.

>
> it will be - the low speed part of the cam is optimized for it.
>
> > The main thing
> > that I've noticed is that the engine isn't working nearly as hard to
> > get the car up to speed. The RPMs are definitely lower.

>
> now /that/ is impossible unless you also swapped the transmission!!!
>
> > Bringing it up
> > to highway speed (120 - 130 km/h) is not a problem, and the vibration
> > level is much reduced compared to what I'm used to. Without the VTEC
> > wired up I didn't expect to see a speed improvement - 130 is as fast
> > as I feel comfortable doing in such a small car, so no loss there.
> > Finding a VTEC-enabled ECU and wiring up the VTEC isn't a priority,
> > but if I happen to find a working one at a good price, I'll certainly
> > go ahead with it.

>
> you should do it. the vtec cam has two profiles - low speed and high
> speed. running the low cam at high speed is losing efficiency.
>
> you can get a simple rev-triggered switch from one of the after-market
> companies that will work the solenoid for you - no new ecu required.
>
> this is not the one i had in mind, but it gives you an idea of what i mean:http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0001_10002_754...
>
> don't switch the secondary cam at too low revs though. i think factory
> is near 5krpm.
>
>
>
> > We've put 200km or so on the engine since the swap, and have had only
> > a minor issue with a hose leak at the new radiator, which was repaired
> > earlier today. We're going for a good highway drive later today.


900km with no problems.

I noticed that the oil pressure light takes around 2 seconds to turn
off after starting the engine. It never comes on during normal
operation.


Michael Pardee 06-11-2007 08:50 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
<madmanguruman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181579153.410180.317890@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> 900km with no problems.
>
> I noticed that the oil pressure light takes around 2 seconds to turn
> off after starting the engine. It never comes on during normal
> operation.
>
>

Could it be the oil filter is aftermarket with no (or inadequate)
antiflowback valve?

Mike




Michael Pardee 06-11-2007 08:50 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
<madmanguruman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181579153.410180.317890@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> 900km with no problems.
>
> I noticed that the oil pressure light takes around 2 seconds to turn
> off after starting the engine. It never comes on during normal
> operation.
>
>

Could it be the oil filter is aftermarket with no (or inadequate)
antiflowback valve?

Mike




jim beam 06-11-2007 10:13 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
madmanguruman@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 9, 11:02 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> madmanguru...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Running well hot, cold and during warmup? Good power and pickup?
>>>> Was it a straight drop-in ,or did the mechanic have to monkey around with
>>>> the brackets and fittings?
>>>> Did all your engine sensors fit properly?
>>> The replacement engine was fitted with a rebuilt distributor (with new
>>> sensors) and a fresh timing belt. A new radiator was installed, as the
>>> old one had the old-age corroded fin problem. The oil pressure sensor
>>> was swapped from my old engine. No warnings, alarams, CELs -
>>> everything seems to be running fine. It was a direct drop-in with no
>>> modifications to the mounts, AFAIK, since the Z6 engine is from the
>>> same model year.
>>> There's definitely a note change between the two engines. The D15B7
>>> sounded like an angry sewing machine. The D16Z6 actually has a more
>>> respectable throaty growl going on.
>>> The clown car is A/T so the acceleration gain isn't huge, but is
>>> noticeable. The low-end torque seems to be greater.

>> it will be - the low speed part of the cam is optimized for it.
>>
>>> The main thing
>>> that I've noticed is that the engine isn't working nearly as hard to
>>> get the car up to speed. The RPMs are definitely lower.

>> now /that/ is impossible unless you also swapped the transmission!!!
>>
>>> Bringing it up
>>> to highway speed (120 - 130 km/h) is not a problem, and the vibration
>>> level is much reduced compared to what I'm used to. Without the VTEC
>>> wired up I didn't expect to see a speed improvement - 130 is as fast
>>> as I feel comfortable doing in such a small car, so no loss there.
>>> Finding a VTEC-enabled ECU and wiring up the VTEC isn't a priority,
>>> but if I happen to find a working one at a good price, I'll certainly
>>> go ahead with it.

>> you should do it. the vtec cam has two profiles - low speed and high
>> speed. running the low cam at high speed is losing efficiency.
>>
>> you can get a simple rev-triggered switch from one of the after-market
>> companies that will work the solenoid for you - no new ecu required.
>>
>> this is not the one i had in mind, but it gives you an idea of what i mean:http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0001_10002_754...
>>
>> don't switch the secondary cam at too low revs though. i think factory
>> is near 5krpm.
>>
>>
>>
>>> We've put 200km or so on the engine since the swap, and have had only
>>> a minor issue with a hose leak at the new radiator, which was repaired
>>> earlier today. We're going for a good highway drive later today.

>
> 900km with no problems.
>
> I noticed that the oil pressure light takes around 2 seconds to turn
> off after starting the engine. It never comes on during normal
> operation.
>

what oil are you using?

jim beam 06-11-2007 10:13 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
madmanguruman@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 9, 11:02 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> madmanguru...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Running well hot, cold and during warmup? Good power and pickup?
>>>> Was it a straight drop-in ,or did the mechanic have to monkey around with
>>>> the brackets and fittings?
>>>> Did all your engine sensors fit properly?
>>> The replacement engine was fitted with a rebuilt distributor (with new
>>> sensors) and a fresh timing belt. A new radiator was installed, as the
>>> old one had the old-age corroded fin problem. The oil pressure sensor
>>> was swapped from my old engine. No warnings, alarams, CELs -
>>> everything seems to be running fine. It was a direct drop-in with no
>>> modifications to the mounts, AFAIK, since the Z6 engine is from the
>>> same model year.
>>> There's definitely a note change between the two engines. The D15B7
>>> sounded like an angry sewing machine. The D16Z6 actually has a more
>>> respectable throaty growl going on.
>>> The clown car is A/T so the acceleration gain isn't huge, but is
>>> noticeable. The low-end torque seems to be greater.

>> it will be - the low speed part of the cam is optimized for it.
>>
>>> The main thing
>>> that I've noticed is that the engine isn't working nearly as hard to
>>> get the car up to speed. The RPMs are definitely lower.

>> now /that/ is impossible unless you also swapped the transmission!!!
>>
>>> Bringing it up
>>> to highway speed (120 - 130 km/h) is not a problem, and the vibration
>>> level is much reduced compared to what I'm used to. Without the VTEC
>>> wired up I didn't expect to see a speed improvement - 130 is as fast
>>> as I feel comfortable doing in such a small car, so no loss there.
>>> Finding a VTEC-enabled ECU and wiring up the VTEC isn't a priority,
>>> but if I happen to find a working one at a good price, I'll certainly
>>> go ahead with it.

>> you should do it. the vtec cam has two profiles - low speed and high
>> speed. running the low cam at high speed is losing efficiency.
>>
>> you can get a simple rev-triggered switch from one of the after-market
>> companies that will work the solenoid for you - no new ecu required.
>>
>> this is not the one i had in mind, but it gives you an idea of what i mean:http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0001_10002_754...
>>
>> don't switch the secondary cam at too low revs though. i think factory
>> is near 5krpm.
>>
>>
>>
>>> We've put 200km or so on the engine since the swap, and have had only
>>> a minor issue with a hose leak at the new radiator, which was repaired
>>> earlier today. We're going for a good highway drive later today.

>
> 900km with no problems.
>
> I noticed that the oil pressure light takes around 2 seconds to turn
> off after starting the engine. It never comes on during normal
> operation.
>

what oil are you using?

madmanguruman@gmail.com 06-15-2007 06:15 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
> what oil are you using?

5W-30.

Dunno about the oil filter (will have to take a look).



madmanguruman@gmail.com 06-15-2007 06:15 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
> what oil are you using?

5W-30.

Dunno about the oil filter (will have to take a look).



madmanguruman@gmail.com 06-15-2007 06:15 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
> what oil are you using?

5W-30.

Dunno about the oil filter (will have to take a look).



jim beam 06-15-2007 10:20 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
madmanguruman@gmail.com wrote:
>> what oil are you using?

>
> 5W-30.


er, ok, what BRAND oil are you using? whatever it is, change to a
quality reputable brand. when in doubt, i use castrol.


>
> Dunno about the oil filter (will have to take a look).
>


fresh oil filter helps.

jim beam 06-15-2007 10:20 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
madmanguruman@gmail.com wrote:
>> what oil are you using?

>
> 5W-30.


er, ok, what BRAND oil are you using? whatever it is, change to a
quality reputable brand. when in doubt, i use castrol.


>
> Dunno about the oil filter (will have to take a look).
>


fresh oil filter helps.

jim beam 06-15-2007 10:20 PM

Re: '93 Civic CX - DIED in parking lot?!?
 
madmanguruman@gmail.com wrote:
>> what oil are you using?

>
> 5W-30.


er, ok, what BRAND oil are you using? whatever it is, change to a
quality reputable brand. when in doubt, i use castrol.


>
> Dunno about the oil filter (will have to take a look).
>


fresh oil filter helps.


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