93 civic loss of power
#31
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out tomorrow and
get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have the wires off
I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the PCV valve, I
know that is long over due.
I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the car takes a few
days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car I can drive,
I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No big deal for
awhile though.
I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!! I was a
little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies. I usualy
stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with helpful
people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
#32
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>
> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
> tomorrow and
> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
> the wires off
> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
> PCV valve, I
> know that is long over due.
>
> I am will give the timming a try.
Post back with any problems. There are some sites with
really good photos of lining up what are called the "timing
marks," for example. That's a bit tricky the first time,
unless a person has Superman eyes.
> I don't mind if the car takes a few
> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car
> I can drive,
> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
> big deal for
> awhile though.
>
> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
> I was a
> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies.
This with rec.autos.makers.honda has a pretty dedicated
group of regulars. Most folks get a response within a day.
> I usualy
> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with
> helpful
> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
Updates are most welcome. They go into the archives and help
others in the future.
Plus, I don't want to get your hopes up, but your Civic may
be running really well within about a week (less time had
you a bit more experience) and without spending much more
money at all. (It's also money that was due to be spent and
will likely help the car through its next 100k miles.) So it
will be fun to read your update and see if I'm right and
your car just needed a good tune-up.
I must say, 180k miles/13 years without really doing
anything is pretty astonishing. :-)
> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>
> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
> tomorrow and
> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
> the wires off
> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
> PCV valve, I
> know that is long over due.
>
> I am will give the timming a try.
Post back with any problems. There are some sites with
really good photos of lining up what are called the "timing
marks," for example. That's a bit tricky the first time,
unless a person has Superman eyes.
> I don't mind if the car takes a few
> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car
> I can drive,
> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
> big deal for
> awhile though.
>
> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
> I was a
> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies.
This with rec.autos.makers.honda has a pretty dedicated
group of regulars. Most folks get a response within a day.
> I usualy
> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with
> helpful
> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
Updates are most welcome. They go into the archives and help
others in the future.
Plus, I don't want to get your hopes up, but your Civic may
be running really well within about a week (less time had
you a bit more experience) and without spending much more
money at all. (It's also money that was due to be spent and
will likely help the car through its next 100k miles.) So it
will be fun to read your update and see if I'm right and
your car just needed a good tune-up.
I must say, 180k miles/13 years without really doing
anything is pretty astonishing. :-)
#33
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>
> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
> tomorrow and
> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
> the wires off
> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
> PCV valve, I
> know that is long over due.
>
> I am will give the timming a try.
Post back with any problems. There are some sites with
really good photos of lining up what are called the "timing
marks," for example. That's a bit tricky the first time,
unless a person has Superman eyes.
> I don't mind if the car takes a few
> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car
> I can drive,
> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
> big deal for
> awhile though.
>
> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
> I was a
> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies.
This with rec.autos.makers.honda has a pretty dedicated
group of regulars. Most folks get a response within a day.
> I usualy
> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with
> helpful
> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
Updates are most welcome. They go into the archives and help
others in the future.
Plus, I don't want to get your hopes up, but your Civic may
be running really well within about a week (less time had
you a bit more experience) and without spending much more
money at all. (It's also money that was due to be spent and
will likely help the car through its next 100k miles.) So it
will be fun to read your update and see if I'm right and
your car just needed a good tune-up.
I must say, 180k miles/13 years without really doing
anything is pretty astonishing. :-)
> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>
> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
> tomorrow and
> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
> the wires off
> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
> PCV valve, I
> know that is long over due.
>
> I am will give the timming a try.
Post back with any problems. There are some sites with
really good photos of lining up what are called the "timing
marks," for example. That's a bit tricky the first time,
unless a person has Superman eyes.
> I don't mind if the car takes a few
> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car
> I can drive,
> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
> big deal for
> awhile though.
>
> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
> I was a
> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies.
This with rec.autos.makers.honda has a pretty dedicated
group of regulars. Most folks get a response within a day.
> I usualy
> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with
> helpful
> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
Updates are most welcome. They go into the archives and help
others in the future.
Plus, I don't want to get your hopes up, but your Civic may
be running really well within about a week (less time had
you a bit more experience) and without spending much more
money at all. (It's also money that was due to be spent and
will likely help the car through its next 100k miles.) So it
will be fun to read your update and see if I'm right and
your car just needed a good tune-up.
I must say, 180k miles/13 years without really doing
anything is pretty astonishing. :-)
#34
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>
> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
> tomorrow and
> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
> the wires off
> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
> PCV valve, I
> know that is long over due.
>
> I am will give the timming a try.
Post back with any problems. There are some sites with
really good photos of lining up what are called the "timing
marks," for example. That's a bit tricky the first time,
unless a person has Superman eyes.
> I don't mind if the car takes a few
> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car
> I can drive,
> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
> big deal for
> awhile though.
>
> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
> I was a
> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies.
This with rec.autos.makers.honda has a pretty dedicated
group of regulars. Most folks get a response within a day.
> I usualy
> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with
> helpful
> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
Updates are most welcome. They go into the archives and help
others in the future.
Plus, I don't want to get your hopes up, but your Civic may
be running really well within about a week (less time had
you a bit more experience) and without spending much more
money at all. (It's also money that was due to be spent and
will likely help the car through its next 100k miles.) So it
will be fun to read your update and see if I'm right and
your car just needed a good tune-up.
I must say, 180k miles/13 years without really doing
anything is pretty astonishing. :-)
> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>
> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
> tomorrow and
> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
> the wires off
> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
> PCV valve, I
> know that is long over due.
>
> I am will give the timming a try.
Post back with any problems. There are some sites with
really good photos of lining up what are called the "timing
marks," for example. That's a bit tricky the first time,
unless a person has Superman eyes.
> I don't mind if the car takes a few
> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car
> I can drive,
> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
> big deal for
> awhile though.
>
> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
> I was a
> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies.
This with rec.autos.makers.honda has a pretty dedicated
group of regulars. Most folks get a response within a day.
> I usualy
> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with
> helpful
> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
Updates are most welcome. They go into the archives and help
others in the future.
Plus, I don't want to get your hopes up, but your Civic may
be running really well within about a week (less time had
you a bit more experience) and without spending much more
money at all. (It's also money that was due to be spent and
will likely help the car through its next 100k miles.) So it
will be fun to read your update and see if I'm right and
your car just needed a good tune-up.
I must say, 180k miles/13 years without really doing
anything is pretty astonishing. :-)
#35
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> My trusty car (210,000) miles, and has never been in the shop, died
> while I was driving on the freeway the other day. I had it towed, I
> told the mechanic I thought it was the distbutor. It turns out it was.
>
>
> He turned out to be a real crappy mechanic. He left one bolt off of my
> distrbutor, and the other 2 were so loose I could giggle the distrbutor
> in my hand. I fixed this by tightining the bolts, and adding one that
> was missing.
>
> Ever since this awefule mechanic did this my car has lost tons of
> power!! It used to be a zippy fun to drive car, now it just sucks, I
> press the gas and literaly nothing happens for a second or two. If I
> have the air conditioner on, the symptoms are even worse.
>
> my questions are
>
> 1) What are some possiable normal causes of such a drastic loss of
> power?
timing is out.
> 2) Could this be realted to the crappy mechanic's install of my
> distrbutor?
definitely.
> 3) any ideas on fixes?
get it timed correctly.
>
> I thought it might be a clogged fuel filter, I am in the process of
> changing that out now, as soon as I figure out how to get the bolt
> holding the filter to the firewall off without loosing my knuckles.
> Any ideas would be great, I love this little car, I would hate to get
> rid of it. I have had it since it was new, even through several new
> cars I always hung on to this car.
don't bother. unless the car's losing power fully loaded at freeway
speed up a hill, there's nothing changing the filter will do for you.
they're usually good for the life of the vehicle and then some. this is
honda, not detroit hunkojunk.
> My trusty car (210,000) miles, and has never been in the shop, died
> while I was driving on the freeway the other day. I had it towed, I
> told the mechanic I thought it was the distbutor. It turns out it was.
>
>
> He turned out to be a real crappy mechanic. He left one bolt off of my
> distrbutor, and the other 2 were so loose I could giggle the distrbutor
> in my hand. I fixed this by tightining the bolts, and adding one that
> was missing.
>
> Ever since this awefule mechanic did this my car has lost tons of
> power!! It used to be a zippy fun to drive car, now it just sucks, I
> press the gas and literaly nothing happens for a second or two. If I
> have the air conditioner on, the symptoms are even worse.
>
> my questions are
>
> 1) What are some possiable normal causes of such a drastic loss of
> power?
timing is out.
> 2) Could this be realted to the crappy mechanic's install of my
> distrbutor?
definitely.
> 3) any ideas on fixes?
get it timed correctly.
>
> I thought it might be a clogged fuel filter, I am in the process of
> changing that out now, as soon as I figure out how to get the bolt
> holding the filter to the firewall off without loosing my knuckles.
> Any ideas would be great, I love this little car, I would hate to get
> rid of it. I have had it since it was new, even through several new
> cars I always hung on to this car.
don't bother. unless the car's losing power fully loaded at freeway
speed up a hill, there's nothing changing the filter will do for you.
they're usually good for the life of the vehicle and then some. this is
honda, not detroit hunkojunk.
#36
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> My trusty car (210,000) miles, and has never been in the shop, died
> while I was driving on the freeway the other day. I had it towed, I
> told the mechanic I thought it was the distbutor. It turns out it was.
>
>
> He turned out to be a real crappy mechanic. He left one bolt off of my
> distrbutor, and the other 2 were so loose I could giggle the distrbutor
> in my hand. I fixed this by tightining the bolts, and adding one that
> was missing.
>
> Ever since this awefule mechanic did this my car has lost tons of
> power!! It used to be a zippy fun to drive car, now it just sucks, I
> press the gas and literaly nothing happens for a second or two. If I
> have the air conditioner on, the symptoms are even worse.
>
> my questions are
>
> 1) What are some possiable normal causes of such a drastic loss of
> power?
timing is out.
> 2) Could this be realted to the crappy mechanic's install of my
> distrbutor?
definitely.
> 3) any ideas on fixes?
get it timed correctly.
>
> I thought it might be a clogged fuel filter, I am in the process of
> changing that out now, as soon as I figure out how to get the bolt
> holding the filter to the firewall off without loosing my knuckles.
> Any ideas would be great, I love this little car, I would hate to get
> rid of it. I have had it since it was new, even through several new
> cars I always hung on to this car.
don't bother. unless the car's losing power fully loaded at freeway
speed up a hill, there's nothing changing the filter will do for you.
they're usually good for the life of the vehicle and then some. this is
honda, not detroit hunkojunk.
> My trusty car (210,000) miles, and has never been in the shop, died
> while I was driving on the freeway the other day. I had it towed, I
> told the mechanic I thought it was the distbutor. It turns out it was.
>
>
> He turned out to be a real crappy mechanic. He left one bolt off of my
> distrbutor, and the other 2 were so loose I could giggle the distrbutor
> in my hand. I fixed this by tightining the bolts, and adding one that
> was missing.
>
> Ever since this awefule mechanic did this my car has lost tons of
> power!! It used to be a zippy fun to drive car, now it just sucks, I
> press the gas and literaly nothing happens for a second or two. If I
> have the air conditioner on, the symptoms are even worse.
>
> my questions are
>
> 1) What are some possiable normal causes of such a drastic loss of
> power?
timing is out.
> 2) Could this be realted to the crappy mechanic's install of my
> distrbutor?
definitely.
> 3) any ideas on fixes?
get it timed correctly.
>
> I thought it might be a clogged fuel filter, I am in the process of
> changing that out now, as soon as I figure out how to get the bolt
> holding the filter to the firewall off without loosing my knuckles.
> Any ideas would be great, I love this little car, I would hate to get
> rid of it. I have had it since it was new, even through several new
> cars I always hung on to this car.
don't bother. unless the car's losing power fully loaded at freeway
speed up a hill, there's nothing changing the filter will do for you.
they're usually good for the life of the vehicle and then some. this is
honda, not detroit hunkojunk.
#37
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> My trusty car (210,000) miles, and has never been in the shop, died
> while I was driving on the freeway the other day. I had it towed, I
> told the mechanic I thought it was the distbutor. It turns out it was.
>
>
> He turned out to be a real crappy mechanic. He left one bolt off of my
> distrbutor, and the other 2 were so loose I could giggle the distrbutor
> in my hand. I fixed this by tightining the bolts, and adding one that
> was missing.
>
> Ever since this awefule mechanic did this my car has lost tons of
> power!! It used to be a zippy fun to drive car, now it just sucks, I
> press the gas and literaly nothing happens for a second or two. If I
> have the air conditioner on, the symptoms are even worse.
>
> my questions are
>
> 1) What are some possiable normal causes of such a drastic loss of
> power?
timing is out.
> 2) Could this be realted to the crappy mechanic's install of my
> distrbutor?
definitely.
> 3) any ideas on fixes?
get it timed correctly.
>
> I thought it might be a clogged fuel filter, I am in the process of
> changing that out now, as soon as I figure out how to get the bolt
> holding the filter to the firewall off without loosing my knuckles.
> Any ideas would be great, I love this little car, I would hate to get
> rid of it. I have had it since it was new, even through several new
> cars I always hung on to this car.
don't bother. unless the car's losing power fully loaded at freeway
speed up a hill, there's nothing changing the filter will do for you.
they're usually good for the life of the vehicle and then some. this is
honda, not detroit hunkojunk.
> My trusty car (210,000) miles, and has never been in the shop, died
> while I was driving on the freeway the other day. I had it towed, I
> told the mechanic I thought it was the distbutor. It turns out it was.
>
>
> He turned out to be a real crappy mechanic. He left one bolt off of my
> distrbutor, and the other 2 were so loose I could giggle the distrbutor
> in my hand. I fixed this by tightining the bolts, and adding one that
> was missing.
>
> Ever since this awefule mechanic did this my car has lost tons of
> power!! It used to be a zippy fun to drive car, now it just sucks, I
> press the gas and literaly nothing happens for a second or two. If I
> have the air conditioner on, the symptoms are even worse.
>
> my questions are
>
> 1) What are some possiable normal causes of such a drastic loss of
> power?
timing is out.
> 2) Could this be realted to the crappy mechanic's install of my
> distrbutor?
definitely.
> 3) any ideas on fixes?
get it timed correctly.
>
> I thought it might be a clogged fuel filter, I am in the process of
> changing that out now, as soon as I figure out how to get the bolt
> holding the filter to the firewall off without loosing my knuckles.
> Any ideas would be great, I love this little car, I would hate to get
> rid of it. I have had it since it was new, even through several new
> cars I always hung on to this car.
don't bother. unless the car's losing power fully loaded at freeway
speed up a hill, there's nothing changing the filter will do for you.
they're usually good for the life of the vehicle and then some. this is
honda, not detroit hunkojunk.
#38
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
I have changed the fuel filter, no noticable improvment, but it should
have been done anyway.
I have purchaced a PVC valve and a timming light, I plan to have those
2 things done today.
I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires, they didn't
carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
#39
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
I have changed the fuel filter, no noticable improvment, but it should
have been done anyway.
I have purchaced a PVC valve and a timming light, I plan to have those
2 things done today.
I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires, they didn't
carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
#40
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
I have changed the fuel filter, no noticable improvment, but it should
have been done anyway.
I have purchaced a PVC valve and a timming light, I plan to have those
2 things done today.
I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires, they didn't
carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
#41
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires,
> they didn't
> carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
Ordering OEM parts online is a popular choice among
do-it-yourselfers. They usually beat dealer prices by a lot.
What OEM online parts web site did you use?
Make sure the plugs are those recommended in the owner's
manual, Most likely NGKs and a few other choices. People
here report bad experiences with Bosch plugs, for one.
#42
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires,
> they didn't
> carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
Ordering OEM parts online is a popular choice among
do-it-yourselfers. They usually beat dealer prices by a lot.
What OEM online parts web site did you use?
Make sure the plugs are those recommended in the owner's
manual, Most likely NGKs and a few other choices. People
here report bad experiences with Bosch plugs, for one.
#43
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote
> I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires,
> they didn't
> carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
Ordering OEM parts online is a popular choice among
do-it-yourselfers. They usually beat dealer prices by a lot.
What OEM online parts web site did you use?
Make sure the plugs are those recommended in the owner's
manual, Most likely NGKs and a few other choices. People
here report bad experiences with Bosch plugs, for one.
#44
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> I have changed the fuel filter, no noticable improvment
well...
>, but it should
> have been done anyway.
>
> I have purchaced a PVC valve and a timming light, I plan to have those
> 2 things done today.
good. before you start doing the timing, make sure the marks on the
pulley wheel are clean and identifiable, then you should have no
problems. remember to jump the service connector to make sure the
automatic timing advance is disabled while you're making adjustments.
if the timing marks appear to be unsteady, the timing belt may be loose
- loose belt allows the cam to lash back and forth relative to the crank
so therefore the timing appears to lash back and forth also.
>
> I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires, they didn't
> carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
>
> I have changed the fuel filter, no noticable improvment
well...
>, but it should
> have been done anyway.
>
> I have purchaced a PVC valve and a timming light, I plan to have those
> 2 things done today.
good. before you start doing the timing, make sure the marks on the
pulley wheel are clean and identifiable, then you should have no
problems. remember to jump the service connector to make sure the
automatic timing advance is disabled while you're making adjustments.
if the timing marks appear to be unsteady, the timing belt may be loose
- loose belt allows the cam to lash back and forth relative to the crank
so therefore the timing appears to lash back and forth also.
>
> I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires, they didn't
> carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
>
#45
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> I have changed the fuel filter, no noticable improvment
well...
>, but it should
> have been done anyway.
>
> I have purchaced a PVC valve and a timming light, I plan to have those
> 2 things done today.
good. before you start doing the timing, make sure the marks on the
pulley wheel are clean and identifiable, then you should have no
problems. remember to jump the service connector to make sure the
automatic timing advance is disabled while you're making adjustments.
if the timing marks appear to be unsteady, the timing belt may be loose
- loose belt allows the cam to lash back and forth relative to the crank
so therefore the timing appears to lash back and forth also.
>
> I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires, they didn't
> carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
>
> I have changed the fuel filter, no noticable improvment
well...
>, but it should
> have been done anyway.
>
> I have purchaced a PVC valve and a timming light, I plan to have those
> 2 things done today.
good. before you start doing the timing, make sure the marks on the
pulley wheel are clean and identifiable, then you should have no
problems. remember to jump the service connector to make sure the
automatic timing advance is disabled while you're making adjustments.
if the timing marks appear to be unsteady, the timing belt may be loose
- loose belt allows the cam to lash back and forth relative to the crank
so therefore the timing appears to lash back and forth also.
>
> I went to the auto parts store for the spark plug wires, they didn't
> carry OEM wires, so I ordered a set of OEM wires online.
>