93 civic loss of power
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Brandon Scarbrough" <brandon_scarbrough@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> When I replaced the fuel filter, that supid bolt that hold the fuel
> filter clam on, that is right next to the fire wall, I replaced that
> with a zip tie so next time I can get it off in under an hour. It
> didn't seem to be a bolt that held any substantial force, it was just
> placed in a very ackward position. Do you all think the zip tie will
> be ok?? I still have the bolt if I need to put it back in, but wow
> what a needless pain to get that thing off.
>
Think of what will happen if your zip tie fails while you are
driving;gasoline (pumped by the in-tank electric fuel pump)will SPRAY all
over your hot engine parts.
Instant FIRE,perhaps even an explosion.
Well,it's YOUR butt....
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:1157477993.267767.235310@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
> When I replaced the fuel filter, that supid bolt that hold the fuel
> filter clam on, that is right next to the fire wall, I replaced that
> with a zip tie so next time I can get it off in under an hour. It
> didn't seem to be a bolt that held any substantial force, it was just
> placed in a very ackward position. Do you all think the zip tie will
> be ok?? I still have the bolt if I need to put it back in, but wow
> what a needless pain to get that thing off.
>
Think of what will happen if your zip tie fails while you are
driving;gasoline (pumped by the in-tank electric fuel pump)will SPRAY all
over your hot engine parts.
Instant FIRE,perhaps even an explosion.
Well,it's YOUR butt....
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Zephyr" <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>>
>> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
>> tomorrow and
>> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
>> the wires off
>> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
>> PCV valve, I
>> know that is long over due.
>>
>> I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the
>> car takes a few
>> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another
>> car I can drive,
>> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
>> big deal for
>> awhile though.
>>
>> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
>> I was a
>> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no
>> replies. I usualy
>> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum
>> with helpful
>> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years
> ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a
> new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as
> you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it
> also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started
> the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to
> what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back
> up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it
> has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
Did you use the manual's directions and short out the
service check connector, etc.?
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>>
>> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
>> tomorrow and
>> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
>> the wires off
>> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
>> PCV valve, I
>> know that is long over due.
>>
>> I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the
>> car takes a few
>> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another
>> car I can drive,
>> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
>> big deal for
>> awhile though.
>>
>> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
>> I was a
>> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no
>> replies. I usualy
>> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum
>> with helpful
>> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years
> ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a
> new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as
> you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it
> also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started
> the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to
> what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back
> up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it
> has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
Did you use the manual's directions and short out the
service check connector, etc.?
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Zephyr" <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>>
>> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
>> tomorrow and
>> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
>> the wires off
>> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
>> PCV valve, I
>> know that is long over due.
>>
>> I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the
>> car takes a few
>> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another
>> car I can drive,
>> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
>> big deal for
>> awhile though.
>>
>> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
>> I was a
>> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no
>> replies. I usualy
>> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum
>> with helpful
>> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years
> ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a
> new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as
> you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it
> also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started
> the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to
> what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back
> up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it
> has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
Did you use the manual's directions and short out the
service check connector, etc.?
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>>
>> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
>> tomorrow and
>> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
>> the wires off
>> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
>> PCV valve, I
>> know that is long over due.
>>
>> I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the
>> car takes a few
>> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another
>> car I can drive,
>> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
>> big deal for
>> awhile though.
>>
>> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
>> I was a
>> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no
>> replies. I usualy
>> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum
>> with helpful
>> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years
> ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a
> new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as
> you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it
> also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started
> the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to
> what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back
> up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it
> has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
Did you use the manual's directions and short out the
service check connector, etc.?
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Zephyr" <davedejonge@hotmail.com> wrote
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>>
>> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
>> tomorrow and
>> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
>> the wires off
>> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
>> PCV valve, I
>> know that is long over due.
>>
>> I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the
>> car takes a few
>> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another
>> car I can drive,
>> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
>> big deal for
>> awhile though.
>>
>> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
>> I was a
>> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no
>> replies. I usualy
>> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum
>> with helpful
>> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years
> ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a
> new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as
> you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it
> also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started
> the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to
> what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back
> up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it
> has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
Did you use the manual's directions and short out the
service check connector, etc.?
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
>> Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
>>
>> I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out
>> tomorrow and
>> get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have
>> the wires off
>> I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the
>> PCV valve, I
>> know that is long over due.
>>
>> I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the
>> car takes a few
>> days or whatever to get back into shape I have another
>> car I can drive,
>> I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No
>> big deal for
>> awhile though.
>>
>> I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!!
>> I was a
>> little worried posting here, sometimes you get no
>> replies. I usualy
>> stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum
>> with helpful
>> people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years
> ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a
> new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as
> you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it
> also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started
> the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to
> what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back
> up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it
> has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
Did you use the manual's directions and short out the
service check connector, etc.?
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Zephyr wrote:
>
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> > Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
> >
> > I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out tomorrow and
> > get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have the wires off
> > I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the PCV valve, I
> > know that is long over due.
> >
> > I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the car takes a few
> > days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car I can drive,
> > I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No big deal for
> > awhile though.
> >
> > I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!! I was a
> > little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies. I usualy
> > stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with helpful
> > people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
>
> Dave
The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
JT
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Zephyr wrote:
>
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> > Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
> >
> > I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out tomorrow and
> > get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have the wires off
> > I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the PCV valve, I
> > know that is long over due.
> >
> > I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the car takes a few
> > days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car I can drive,
> > I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No big deal for
> > awhile though.
> >
> > I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!! I was a
> > little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies. I usualy
> > stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with helpful
> > people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
>
> Dave
The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
JT
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Zephyr wrote:
>
> Brandon Scarbrough wrote:
> > Elle - Thanks for all the great advice!!!
> >
> > I don't mind spending money on this car. I will go out tomorrow and
> > get new wires, a timming light, and I figure while I have the wires off
> > I may as well replace the plugs. I will also replace the PCV valve, I
> > know that is long over due.
> >
> > I am will give the timming a try. I don't mind if the car takes a few
> > days or whatever to get back into shape I have another car I can drive,
> > I jsut hate to drive it because it loves gas a supra. No big deal for
> > awhile though.
> >
> > I have to say this forum has given me some great advice!! I was a
> > little worried posting here, sometimes you get no replies. I usualy
> > stick to the tech forums, it is great to find a forum with helpful
> > people!!!!! I will post how the 93 civic project goes.
>
> Brandon,
>
> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
> 240,000 miles now.
>
> my 2 cents
>
> Dave
The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
JT
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Zephyr wrote:
>>
>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>> 240,000 miles now.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> Dave
>
>
>
> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>
> JT
Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
light) because the operation is never right.
Mike
news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>
>
> Zephyr wrote:
>>
>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>> 240,000 miles now.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> Dave
>
>
>
> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>
> JT
Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
light) because the operation is never right.
Mike
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Zephyr wrote:
>>
>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>> 240,000 miles now.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> Dave
>
>
>
> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>
> JT
Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
light) because the operation is never right.
Mike
news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>
>
> Zephyr wrote:
>>
>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>> 240,000 miles now.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> Dave
>
>
>
> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>
> JT
Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
light) because the operation is never right.
Mike
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Zephyr wrote:
>>
>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>> 240,000 miles now.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> Dave
>
>
>
> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>
> JT
Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
light) because the operation is never right.
Mike
news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>
>
> Zephyr wrote:
>>
>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>> 240,000 miles now.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> Dave
>
>
>
> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>
> JT
Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
light) because the operation is never right.
Mike
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Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>
>> Zephyr wrote:
>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>
>>> my 2 cents
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>
>> JT
>
> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
> the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
> will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
> diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
> Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
> timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
> light) because the operation is never right.
>
> Mike
>
>
you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
check your belt tension.
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>
>> Zephyr wrote:
>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>
>>> my 2 cents
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>
>> JT
>
> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
> the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
> will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
> diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
> Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
> timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
> light) because the operation is never right.
>
> Mike
>
>
you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
check your belt tension.
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>
>> Zephyr wrote:
>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>
>>> my 2 cents
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>
>> JT
>
> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
> the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
> will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
> diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
> Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
> timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
> light) because the operation is never right.
>
> Mike
>
>
you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
check your belt tension.
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>
>> Zephyr wrote:
>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>
>>> my 2 cents
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>
>> JT
>
> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
> the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
> will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
> diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
> Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
> timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
> light) because the operation is never right.
>
> Mike
>
>
you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
check your belt tension.
#73
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>
>> Zephyr wrote:
>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>
>>> my 2 cents
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>
>> JT
>
> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
> the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
> will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
> diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
> Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
> timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
> light) because the operation is never right.
>
> Mike
>
>
you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
check your belt tension.
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>
>> Zephyr wrote:
>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>
>>> my 2 cents
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>
>> JT
>
> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is failing and
> the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then, and a timing light
> will show the timing is jumping around. The timing light is a great
> diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red arrow at the distributor.
> Of course, if there is anything seriously wrong with the fuel or valves the
> timing can't be set by ear (and sometimes not even set quite right with a
> light) because the operation is never right.
>
> Mike
>
>
you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
check your belt tension.
#74
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
jim beam wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>>
>>> Zephyr wrote:
>>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>>
>>>> my 2 cents
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>>
>>> JT
>>
>> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is
>> failing and the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then,
>> and a timing light will show the timing is jumping around. The timing
>> light is a great diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red
>> arrow at the distributor. Of course, if there is anything seriously
>> wrong with the fuel or valves the timing can't be set by ear (and
>> sometimes not even set quite right with a light) because the operation
>> is never right.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
> a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
> belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
> only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
> believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
> check your belt tension.
and locate the service connector so the leads are jumped too - with that
done and a properly tensioned belt, honda timing is rock solid.
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>>
>>> Zephyr wrote:
>>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>>
>>>> my 2 cents
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>>
>>> JT
>>
>> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is
>> failing and the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then,
>> and a timing light will show the timing is jumping around. The timing
>> light is a great diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red
>> arrow at the distributor. Of course, if there is anything seriously
>> wrong with the fuel or valves the timing can't be set by ear (and
>> sometimes not even set quite right with a light) because the operation
>> is never right.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
> a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
> belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
> only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
> believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
> check your belt tension.
and locate the service connector so the leads are jumped too - with that
done and a properly tensioned belt, honda timing is rock solid.
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Re: 93 civic loss of power
jim beam wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>>
>>> Zephyr wrote:
>>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>>
>>>> my 2 cents
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>>
>>> JT
>>
>> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is
>> failing and the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then,
>> and a timing light will show the timing is jumping around. The timing
>> light is a great diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red
>> arrow at the distributor. Of course, if there is anything seriously
>> wrong with the fuel or valves the timing can't be set by ear (and
>> sometimes not even set quite right with a light) because the operation
>> is never right.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
> a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
> belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
> only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
> believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
> check your belt tension.
and locate the service connector so the leads are jumped too - with that
done and a properly tensioned belt, honda timing is rock solid.
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:44FE5B25.DCB76BBD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>>>
>>> Zephyr wrote:
>>>> I had to replace the distributer on my 93 civic 5 years ago when the
>>>> bearing went bad. I took the old one out and popped in a new one,
>>>> without making carefull note of the allignment. just as you describe
>>>> with yours, the car was a pig when I started it up. it also sounded
>>>> rough. I loosened the bolts on the distibuter, started the car up and
>>>> slowly turned the hole assmebly just slightly listening to what sounded
>>>> best. when It sounded good, I tightened the bolts back up. I must
>>>> have got it right cause my sister has the car now and it has well over
>>>> 240,000 miles now.
>>>>
>>>> my 2 cents
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> The only way to go on high mileage vehicles. Often, a timing light is
>>> useless in such situations. Been doing it by "feel/sound" for years...
>>>
>>> JT
>>
>> Mostly, that works well. An exception is when the distributor is
>> failing and the timing is erratic - there is no correct setting then,
>> and a timing light will show the timing is jumping around. The timing
>> light is a great diagnostic help for that, as it points a big red
>> arrow at the distributor. Of course, if there is anything seriously
>> wrong with the fuel or valves the timing can't be set by ear (and
>> sometimes not even set quite right with a light) because the operation
>> is never right.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> you'd both be right if this vehicle had a chain driven cam, but this is
> a belt driven cam, so the only way you'll get erratic timing is if the
> belt is loose. go to a junk yard and check this for yourself - there's
> only maybe 30% of belts set right. it's something i'd have a hard time
> believing myself unless i'd seen it. so, if y'all have this issue,
> check your belt tension.
and locate the service connector so the leads are jumped too - with that
done and a properly tensioned belt, honda timing is rock solid.