Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:

>What's that mileage in U S terms.

160K km is about 100K miles.


>Tom
>"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no...
>>
>>
>> Judy wrote:
>>
>> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
>news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
>> >
>> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98
>EX.
>> >
>> >
>> > ...........
>> >
>> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
>> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with
>> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
>> >
>> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real
>> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been told
>> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics,
>> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg in
>> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda dealer
>> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up.
>> >
>> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you
>> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the
>> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
>> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.
>> >
>> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic base
>> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream.
>> >
>> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98
>> > you're checking out.
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > Cranky
>> Hi,
>> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake pads/linings,
>> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up diff.
>> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt.
>> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any trouble.
>> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km.
>> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter.
>> Tony
>>
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:

>What's that mileage in U S terms.

160K km is about 100K miles.


>Tom
>"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no...
>>
>>
>> Judy wrote:
>>
>> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
>news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
>> >
>> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98
>EX.
>> >
>> >
>> > ...........
>> >
>> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
>> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with
>> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
>> >
>> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real
>> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been told
>> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics,
>> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg in
>> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda dealer
>> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up.
>> >
>> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you
>> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the
>> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
>> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.
>> >
>> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic base
>> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream.
>> >
>> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98
>> > you're checking out.
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > Cranky
>> Hi,
>> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake pads/linings,
>> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up diff.
>> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt.
>> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any trouble.
>> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km.
>> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter.
>> Tony
>>
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:

>What's that mileage in U S terms.

160K km is about 100K miles.


>Tom
>"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no...
>>
>>
>> Judy wrote:
>>
>> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
>news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
>> >
>> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98
>EX.
>> >
>> >
>> > ...........
>> >
>> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
>> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with
>> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
>> >
>> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real
>> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been told
>> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics,
>> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg in
>> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda dealer
>> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up.
>> >
>> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you
>> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the
>> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
>> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.
>> >
>> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic base
>> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream.
>> >
>> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98
>> > you're checking out.
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > Cranky
>> Hi,
>> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake pads/linings,
>> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up diff.
>> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt.
>> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any trouble.
>> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km.
>> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter.
>> Tony
>>
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4? -- fuel economy
 

Just a couple of additional points about CR-V fuel economy.....

The 1998 5-speed Honda CR-V to which I referred is in England where
they did indeed make'em without air conditioning. Also more manual
transmissions in the UK than in the US, where the likelihood of
finding a 5-speed was, I believe, about 1 in 1000. The cost of fuel in
the UK is so high compared to the US that we are forced to drive with
a high regard for fuel economy. We've both actually taken classes to
become more adept at fuel-conscious driving. There's also a lot of
info available on-line.

US city gas mileage of 26 mpg was achieved with a small number of
longer town trips in which speed rarely was allowed to exceed 25-30
mph. US freeway mileage of 28-29 mpg was achieved using cruise control
at about 65-70 mph with a/c OFF whenever physically possible.

We still consider these models to be the best SUV for the money
anywhere.
Best wishes,
Cranky

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4? -- fuel economy
 

Just a couple of additional points about CR-V fuel economy.....

The 1998 5-speed Honda CR-V to which I referred is in England where
they did indeed make'em without air conditioning. Also more manual
transmissions in the UK than in the US, where the likelihood of
finding a 5-speed was, I believe, about 1 in 1000. The cost of fuel in
the UK is so high compared to the US that we are forced to drive with
a high regard for fuel economy. We've both actually taken classes to
become more adept at fuel-conscious driving. There's also a lot of
info available on-line.

US city gas mileage of 26 mpg was achieved with a small number of
longer town trips in which speed rarely was allowed to exceed 25-30
mph. US freeway mileage of 28-29 mpg was achieved using cruise control
at about 65-70 mph with a/c OFF whenever physically possible.

We still consider these models to be the best SUV for the money
anywhere.
Best wishes,
Cranky

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4? -- fuel economy
 

Just a couple of additional points about CR-V fuel economy.....

The 1998 5-speed Honda CR-V to which I referred is in England where
they did indeed make'em without air conditioning. Also more manual
transmissions in the UK than in the US, where the likelihood of
finding a 5-speed was, I believe, about 1 in 1000. The cost of fuel in
the UK is so high compared to the US that we are forced to drive with
a high regard for fuel economy. We've both actually taken classes to
become more adept at fuel-conscious driving. There's also a lot of
info available on-line.

US city gas mileage of 26 mpg was achieved with a small number of
longer town trips in which speed rarely was allowed to exceed 25-30
mph. US freeway mileage of 28-29 mpg was achieved using cruise control
at about 65-70 mph with a/c OFF whenever physically possible.

We still consider these models to be the best SUV for the money
anywhere.
Best wishes,
Cranky

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4? -- fuel economy
 

Just a couple of additional points about CR-V fuel economy.....

The 1998 5-speed Honda CR-V to which I referred is in England where
they did indeed make'em without air conditioning. Also more manual
transmissions in the UK than in the US, where the likelihood of
finding a 5-speed was, I believe, about 1 in 1000. The cost of fuel in
the UK is so high compared to the US that we are forced to drive with
a high regard for fuel economy. We've both actually taken classes to
become more adept at fuel-conscious driving. There's also a lot of
info available on-line.

US city gas mileage of 26 mpg was achieved with a small number of
longer town trips in which speed rarely was allowed to exceed 25-30
mph. US freeway mileage of 28-29 mpg was achieved using cruise control
at about 65-70 mph with a/c OFF whenever physically possible.

We still consider these models to be the best SUV for the money
anywhere.
Best wishes,
Cranky

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

What is G1? is it a 98? consumer report says that cr-v is 2.8 secs faster on
0-60 ..but thats about it.






"Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:nia3svcrvfjbvs7bkuh1ei85h09hmra28f@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:12:37 -0500, "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Im looking for a car. First it was the jetta but heard bad reviews
regarding
> >reliability. (very far from an SUV right? i think im really a small suv
> >type, i never liked lowered cars where i have to steer away from small
> >potholes and risking myself in ramming a truck instead.)
> >
> > now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 EX. Since its a honda i expect
it
> >to be reliable. Is this a good car? i want something that has a high
profile
> >but not too much like standard SUVs. I want something that still rides
like
> >a car. how is the aftermarket parts on the cr-vs?
> >
> >Im also looking at the Rav4 and debating which one i should look into.
Seems
> >like cr-vs have more aftermarkets like roofracks, bike racks, bras and
> >etccc...
> >
> >Reports says that rav4 takes 13secs on 0-60 while crv takes 11.3.
>
> I helped a friend shopping G1 CR-V vs. RAV4. With AT, the RAV4 was
> actually scary it was so slow. The CR-V was superior in other ways as
> well, but that was the big one.
>
> >Should i be concerned to see mileages of up to 85k on toyota rav4s and
honda
> >cr-vs? It seems that on the VW's its scary to have mileages that high.
>
> It shouldn't be too scary with Honda or Toyota. Just check it out
> closely and understand that you may need to do some service or repair.
>
> >
> >btw, im not a speedfreak. I want something that is rugged, sporty, not
too
> >big and has a good MPG. (did i mention reliable?)
> >
> >I also carry wide & long cargos. some are illustration boards that are
3x4
> >feet and rollled paper that are 107 inches long.
> >
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

What is G1? is it a 98? consumer report says that cr-v is 2.8 secs faster on
0-60 ..but thats about it.






"Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:nia3svcrvfjbvs7bkuh1ei85h09hmra28f@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:12:37 -0500, "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Im looking for a car. First it was the jetta but heard bad reviews
regarding
> >reliability. (very far from an SUV right? i think im really a small suv
> >type, i never liked lowered cars where i have to steer away from small
> >potholes and risking myself in ramming a truck instead.)
> >
> > now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 EX. Since its a honda i expect
it
> >to be reliable. Is this a good car? i want something that has a high
profile
> >but not too much like standard SUVs. I want something that still rides
like
> >a car. how is the aftermarket parts on the cr-vs?
> >
> >Im also looking at the Rav4 and debating which one i should look into.
Seems
> >like cr-vs have more aftermarkets like roofracks, bike racks, bras and
> >etccc...
> >
> >Reports says that rav4 takes 13secs on 0-60 while crv takes 11.3.
>
> I helped a friend shopping G1 CR-V vs. RAV4. With AT, the RAV4 was
> actually scary it was so slow. The CR-V was superior in other ways as
> well, but that was the big one.
>
> >Should i be concerned to see mileages of up to 85k on toyota rav4s and
honda
> >cr-vs? It seems that on the VW's its scary to have mileages that high.
>
> It shouldn't be too scary with Honda or Toyota. Just check it out
> closely and understand that you may need to do some service or repair.
>
> >
> >btw, im not a speedfreak. I want something that is rugged, sporty, not
too
> >big and has a good MPG. (did i mention reliable?)
> >
> >I also carry wide & long cargos. some are illustration boards that are
3x4
> >feet and rollled paper that are 107 inches long.
> >
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

What is G1? is it a 98? consumer report says that cr-v is 2.8 secs faster on
0-60 ..but thats about it.






"Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:nia3svcrvfjbvs7bkuh1ei85h09hmra28f@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:12:37 -0500, "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Im looking for a car. First it was the jetta but heard bad reviews
regarding
> >reliability. (very far from an SUV right? i think im really a small suv
> >type, i never liked lowered cars where i have to steer away from small
> >potholes and risking myself in ramming a truck instead.)
> >
> > now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 EX. Since its a honda i expect
it
> >to be reliable. Is this a good car? i want something that has a high
profile
> >but not too much like standard SUVs. I want something that still rides
like
> >a car. how is the aftermarket parts on the cr-vs?
> >
> >Im also looking at the Rav4 and debating which one i should look into.
Seems
> >like cr-vs have more aftermarkets like roofracks, bike racks, bras and
> >etccc...
> >
> >Reports says that rav4 takes 13secs on 0-60 while crv takes 11.3.
>
> I helped a friend shopping G1 CR-V vs. RAV4. With AT, the RAV4 was
> actually scary it was so slow. The CR-V was superior in other ways as
> well, but that was the big one.
>
> >Should i be concerned to see mileages of up to 85k on toyota rav4s and
honda
> >cr-vs? It seems that on the VW's its scary to have mileages that high.
>
> It shouldn't be too scary with Honda or Toyota. Just check it out
> closely and understand that you may need to do some service or repair.
>
> >
> >btw, im not a speedfreak. I want something that is rugged, sporty, not
too
> >big and has a good MPG. (did i mention reliable?)
> >
> >I also carry wide & long cargos. some are illustration boards that are
3x4
> >feet and rollled paper that are 107 inches long.
> >
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

What is G1? is it a 98? consumer report says that cr-v is 2.8 secs faster on
0-60 ..but thats about it.






"Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:nia3svcrvfjbvs7bkuh1ei85h09hmra28f@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:12:37 -0500, "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Im looking for a car. First it was the jetta but heard bad reviews
regarding
> >reliability. (very far from an SUV right? i think im really a small suv
> >type, i never liked lowered cars where i have to steer away from small
> >potholes and risking myself in ramming a truck instead.)
> >
> > now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 EX. Since its a honda i expect
it
> >to be reliable. Is this a good car? i want something that has a high
profile
> >but not too much like standard SUVs. I want something that still rides
like
> >a car. how is the aftermarket parts on the cr-vs?
> >
> >Im also looking at the Rav4 and debating which one i should look into.
Seems
> >like cr-vs have more aftermarkets like roofracks, bike racks, bras and
> >etccc...
> >
> >Reports says that rav4 takes 13secs on 0-60 while crv takes 11.3.
>
> I helped a friend shopping G1 CR-V vs. RAV4. With AT, the RAV4 was
> actually scary it was so slow. The CR-V was superior in other ways as
> well, but that was the big one.
>
> >Should i be concerned to see mileages of up to 85k on toyota rav4s and
honda
> >cr-vs? It seems that on the VW's its scary to have mileages that high.
>
> It shouldn't be too scary with Honda or Toyota. Just check it out
> closely and understand that you may need to do some service or repair.
>
> >
> >btw, im not a speedfreak. I want something that is rugged, sporty, not
too
> >big and has a good MPG. (did i mention reliable?)
> >
> >I also carry wide & long cargos. some are illustration boards that are
3x4
> >feet and rollled paper that are 107 inches long.
> >
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> it correctly, is just simple as that.
>
> Judy wrote:
>
>

Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

Thanks,
Dmitry.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> it correctly, is just simple as that.
>
> Judy wrote:
>
>

Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

Thanks,
Dmitry.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> it correctly, is just simple as that.
>
> Judy wrote:
>
>

Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

Thanks,
Dmitry.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> it correctly, is just simple as that.
>
> Judy wrote:
>
>

Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

Thanks,
Dmitry.