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Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
Dmitry wrote: > Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>... > >>Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for >>poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't >>mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard >>will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually >>the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do >>it correctly, is just simple as that. >> >>Judy wrote: >> >> > > > Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct > technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? > I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with, > but of course would like to know if I could have a little more... > > Thanks, > Dmitry. Sorry, I'm not good for a teacher and this is not why I'm in this ng. Best way to learn is to attend a professional driving school (and not one of those courses offered by some colleges). But most of the people learned driving at the neighborhood "driving school" (usually the cheapest) which only purpose is to help you pass the exam. If you want to save fuel first step is to eliminate the warm up. With the exception of extreme low weather conditions or some diesels, warm up is wasted fuel and senseless wear on the engine. Modern cars don't need this old thing. Also read owners manual very carefully, there are small differences in shifting between cars (regarding the optimal RPM). I came here to learn the opinions of CR-V and Element owners about their cars. I intend to buy one soon, and I think it will be the Element. Good luck |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
Dmitry wrote: > Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>... > >>Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for >>poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't >>mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard >>will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually >>the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do >>it correctly, is just simple as that. >> >>Judy wrote: >> >> > > > Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct > technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? > I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with, > but of course would like to know if I could have a little more... > > Thanks, > Dmitry. Sorry, I'm not good for a teacher and this is not why I'm in this ng. Best way to learn is to attend a professional driving school (and not one of those courses offered by some colleges). But most of the people learned driving at the neighborhood "driving school" (usually the cheapest) which only purpose is to help you pass the exam. If you want to save fuel first step is to eliminate the warm up. With the exception of extreme low weather conditions or some diesels, warm up is wasted fuel and senseless wear on the engine. Modern cars don't need this old thing. Also read owners manual very carefully, there are small differences in shifting between cars (regarding the optimal RPM). I came here to learn the opinions of CR-V and Element owners about their cars. I intend to buy one soon, and I think it will be the Element. Good luck |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
Dmitry wrote: > Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>... > >>Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for >>poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't >>mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard >>will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually >>the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do >>it correctly, is just simple as that. >> >>Judy wrote: >> >> > > > Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct > technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? > I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with, > but of course would like to know if I could have a little more... > > Thanks, > Dmitry. Sorry, I'm not good for a teacher and this is not why I'm in this ng. Best way to learn is to attend a professional driving school (and not one of those courses offered by some colleges). But most of the people learned driving at the neighborhood "driving school" (usually the cheapest) which only purpose is to help you pass the exam. If you want to save fuel first step is to eliminate the warm up. With the exception of extreme low weather conditions or some diesels, warm up is wasted fuel and senseless wear on the engine. Modern cars don't need this old thing. Also read owners manual very carefully, there are small differences in shifting between cars (regarding the optimal RPM). I came here to learn the opinions of CR-V and Element owners about their cars. I intend to buy one soon, and I think it will be the Element. Good luck |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
Dmitry wrote: > Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>... > >>Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for >>poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't >>mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard >>will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually >>the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do >>it correctly, is just simple as that. >> >>Judy wrote: >> >> > > > Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct > technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? > I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with, > but of course would like to know if I could have a little more... > > Thanks, > Dmitry. Sorry, I'm not good for a teacher and this is not why I'm in this ng. Best way to learn is to attend a professional driving school (and not one of those courses offered by some colleges). But most of the people learned driving at the neighborhood "driving school" (usually the cheapest) which only purpose is to help you pass the exam. If you want to save fuel first step is to eliminate the warm up. With the exception of extreme low weather conditions or some diesels, warm up is wasted fuel and senseless wear on the engine. Modern cars don't need this old thing. Also read owners manual very carefully, there are small differences in shifting between cars (regarding the optimal RPM). I came here to learn the opinions of CR-V and Element owners about their cars. I intend to buy one soon, and I think it will be the Element. Good luck |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
In article <e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.com> ,
Dmitry <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote: >Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct >technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? In general, with a manual transmission, drive in the highest gear that you can use without lugging. Accelerate briskly while upshifting as early as possible, traffic conditions permitting. With either manual or automatic, pay attention to conditions up ahead to avoid accelerating into a forced stop. E.g. if you see a light ahead turn red so that you will have to stop for it, take your foot off of the accelerator and coast (in gear) until you need to brake. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
In article <e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.com> ,
Dmitry <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote: >Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct >technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? In general, with a manual transmission, drive in the highest gear that you can use without lugging. Accelerate briskly while upshifting as early as possible, traffic conditions permitting. With either manual or automatic, pay attention to conditions up ahead to avoid accelerating into a forced stop. E.g. if you see a light ahead turn red so that you will have to stop for it, take your foot off of the accelerator and coast (in gear) until you need to brake. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
In article <e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.com> ,
Dmitry <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote: >Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct >technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? In general, with a manual transmission, drive in the highest gear that you can use without lugging. Accelerate briskly while upshifting as early as possible, traffic conditions permitting. With either manual or automatic, pay attention to conditions up ahead to avoid accelerating into a forced stop. E.g. if you see a light ahead turn red so that you will have to stop for it, take your foot off of the accelerator and coast (in gear) until you need to brake. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
In article <e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.com> ,
Dmitry <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote: >Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct >technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV? In general, with a manual transmission, drive in the highest gear that you can use without lugging. Accelerate briskly while upshifting as early as possible, traffic conditions permitting. With either manual or automatic, pay attention to conditions up ahead to avoid accelerating into a forced stop. E.g. if you see a light ahead turn red so that you will have to stop for it, take your foot off of the accelerator and coast (in gear) until you need to brake. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the diff
between 97-98 crvs and rav4s?? i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv.. can anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas? "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com... > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote: > > >What's that mileage in U S terms. > > 160K km is about 100K miles. > > > >Tom > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no... > >> > >> > >> Judy wrote: > >> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>... > >> > > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 > >EX. > >> > > >> > > >> > ........... > >> > > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C), > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years. > >> > > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been told > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics, > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg in > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda dealer > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up. > >> > > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on. > >> > > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic base > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream. > >> > > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98 > >> > you're checking out. > >> > > >> > Good luck! > >> > > >> > Cranky > >> Hi, > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake pads/linings, > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up diff. > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt. > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any trouble. > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km. > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter. > >> Tony > >> > > > |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the diff
between 97-98 crvs and rav4s?? i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv.. can anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas? "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com... > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote: > > >What's that mileage in U S terms. > > 160K km is about 100K miles. > > > >Tom > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no... > >> > >> > >> Judy wrote: > >> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>... > >> > > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 > >EX. > >> > > >> > > >> > ........... > >> > > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C), > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years. > >> > > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been told > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics, > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg in > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda dealer > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up. > >> > > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on. > >> > > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic base > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream. > >> > > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98 > >> > you're checking out. > >> > > >> > Good luck! > >> > > >> > Cranky > >> Hi, > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake pads/linings, > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up diff. > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt. > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any trouble. > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km. > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter. > >> Tony > >> > > > |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the diff
between 97-98 crvs and rav4s?? i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv.. can anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas? "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com... > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote: > > >What's that mileage in U S terms. > > 160K km is about 100K miles. > > > >Tom > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no... > >> > >> > >> Judy wrote: > >> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>... > >> > > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 > >EX. > >> > > >> > > >> > ........... > >> > > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C), > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years. > >> > > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been told > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics, > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg in > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda dealer > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up. > >> > > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on. > >> > > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic base > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream. > >> > > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98 > >> > you're checking out. > >> > > >> > Good luck! > >> > > >> > Cranky > >> Hi, > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake pads/linings, > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up diff. > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt. > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any trouble. > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km. > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter. > >> Tony > >> > > > |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the diff
between 97-98 crvs and rav4s?? i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv.. can anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas? "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com... > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote: > > >What's that mileage in U S terms. > > 160K km is about 100K miles. > > > >Tom > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no... > >> > >> > >> Judy wrote: > >> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>... > >> > > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a 98 > >EX. > >> > > >> > > >> > ........... > >> > > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C), > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years. > >> > > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been told > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics, > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg in > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda dealer > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up. > >> > > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on. > >> > > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic base > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream. > >> > > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98 > >> > you're checking out. > >> > > >> > Good luck! > >> > > >> > Cranky > >> Hi, > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake pads/linings, > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up diff. > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt. > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any trouble. > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km. > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter. > >> Tony > >> > > > |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
> Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years. > > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on. My 98 CR-V (A/C, 5-speed) that I had would do a good 28 mpg on the highway, and if you really abused it, maybe 21-22 in the city. I always wished the 5th gear was taller, I was never happy with how high the engine revved at highway speed. I'm sure there was enough torque there to let it run at lower RPM's with better mileage. |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
> Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years. > > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on. My 98 CR-V (A/C, 5-speed) that I had would do a good 28 mpg on the highway, and if you really abused it, maybe 21-22 in the city. I always wished the 5th gear was taller, I was never happy with how high the engine revved at highway speed. I'm sure there was enough torque there to let it run at lower RPM's with better mileage. |
Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
> Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years. > > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on. My 98 CR-V (A/C, 5-speed) that I had would do a good 28 mpg on the highway, and if you really abused it, maybe 21-22 in the city. I always wished the 5th gear was taller, I was never happy with how high the engine revved at highway speed. I'm sure there was enough torque there to let it run at lower RPM's with better mileage. |
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