Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

> Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have (with
> A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
>
> When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model you
> hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at the
> bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
> average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.

My 98 CR-V (A/C, 5-speed) that I had would do a good 28 mpg on the highway,
and if you really abused it, maybe 21-22 in the city. I always wished the
5th gear was taller, I was never happy with how high the engine revved at
highway speed. I'm sure there was enough torque there to let it run at lower
RPM's with better mileage.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

jwacom201 <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
news:74adna0rc6g86l-i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> 97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the
diff
> between 97-98 crvs and rav4s??
>
> i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv..
can
> anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas?
>
>
The EX and LX deal with Hondas is the trim spec. From memory LX is the base
model, and they improve from there.

Personally I'd say go find a neat little RAV4, because as reliable as the
Honda may be when something does go wrong it'll be a nightmare to have
repaired... my brother had a Prelude once... worst car I've ever seen for
reliability.


Nick.

>
> "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
> >
> > >What's that mileage in U S terms.
> >
> > 160K km is about 100K miles.
> >
> >
> > >Tom
> > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Judy wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
> > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
> > >> >
> > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a
> 98
> > >EX.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ...........
> > >> >
> > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have
(with
> > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
> > >> >
> > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real
> > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been
told
> > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics,
> > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg
> in
> > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda
dealer
> > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up.
> > >> >
> > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model
you
> > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at
the
> > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
> > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.
> > >> >
> > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic
base
> > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream.
> > >> >
> > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98
> > >> > you're checking out.
> > >> >
> > >> > Good luck!
> > >> >
> > >> > Cranky
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake
> pads/linings,
> > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up
diff.
> > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt.
> > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any
trouble.
> > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km.
> > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter.
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

jwacom201 <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
news:74adna0rc6g86l-i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> 97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the
diff
> between 97-98 crvs and rav4s??
>
> i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv..
can
> anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas?
>
>
The EX and LX deal with Hondas is the trim spec. From memory LX is the base
model, and they improve from there.

Personally I'd say go find a neat little RAV4, because as reliable as the
Honda may be when something does go wrong it'll be a nightmare to have
repaired... my brother had a Prelude once... worst car I've ever seen for
reliability.


Nick.

>
> "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
> >
> > >What's that mileage in U S terms.
> >
> > 160K km is about 100K miles.
> >
> >
> > >Tom
> > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Judy wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
> > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
> > >> >
> > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a
> 98
> > >EX.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ...........
> > >> >
> > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have
(with
> > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
> > >> >
> > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real
> > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been
told
> > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics,
> > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg
> in
> > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda
dealer
> > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up.
> > >> >
> > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model
you
> > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at
the
> > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
> > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.
> > >> >
> > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic
base
> > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream.
> > >> >
> > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98
> > >> > you're checking out.
> > >> >
> > >> > Good luck!
> > >> >
> > >> > Cranky
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake
> pads/linings,
> > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up
diff.
> > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt.
> > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any
trouble.
> > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km.
> > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter.
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

jwacom201 <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
news:74adna0rc6g86l-i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> 97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the
diff
> between 97-98 crvs and rav4s??
>
> i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv..
can
> anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas?
>
>
The EX and LX deal with Hondas is the trim spec. From memory LX is the base
model, and they improve from there.

Personally I'd say go find a neat little RAV4, because as reliable as the
Honda may be when something does go wrong it'll be a nightmare to have
repaired... my brother had a Prelude once... worst car I've ever seen for
reliability.


Nick.

>
> "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
> >
> > >What's that mileage in U S terms.
> >
> > 160K km is about 100K miles.
> >
> >
> > >Tom
> > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Judy wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
> > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
> > >> >
> > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a
> 98
> > >EX.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ...........
> > >> >
> > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have
(with
> > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
> > >> >
> > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real
> > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been
told
> > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics,
> > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg
> in
> > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda
dealer
> > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up.
> > >> >
> > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model
you
> > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at
the
> > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
> > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.
> > >> >
> > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic
base
> > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream.
> > >> >
> > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98
> > >> > you're checking out.
> > >> >
> > >> > Good luck!
> > >> >
> > >> > Cranky
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake
> pads/linings,
> > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up
diff.
> > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt.
> > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any
trouble.
> > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km.
> > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter.
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

jwacom201 <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
news:74adna0rc6g86l-i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> 97,,, man they sell fast .. 98s are gone and left with 97s.. whats the
diff
> between 97-98 crvs and rav4s??
>
> i heard on the rav4s the 97 is noisier than the 98.. or was it the crv..
can
> anyone give me the diff on the 2? and what is EX and LX on the hondas?
>
>
The EX and LX deal with Hondas is the trim spec. From memory LX is the base
model, and they improve from there.

Personally I'd say go find a neat little RAV4, because as reliable as the
Honda may be when something does go wrong it'll be a nightmare to have
repaired... my brother had a Prelude once... worst car I've ever seen for
reliability.


Nick.

>
> "Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:j7b3svsceuhg525lqat3c0mo8hql5g32fe@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:59:05 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
> >
> > >What's that mileage in U S terms.
> >
> > 160K km is about 100K miles.
> >
> >
> > >Tom
> > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > >news:uU6wb.476616$6C4.257413@pd7tw1no...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Judy wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com> wrote in message
> > >news:<1sadne0DOuGY512iRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
> > >> >
> > >> >>Im looking for a car (snip)> now im looking at the CR-V which is a
> 98
> > >EX.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ...........
> > >> >
> > >> > Hmmm...I just got a 1998 5-speed manual CR-V (base model, no A/C),
> > >> > which I am comparing to the 2000 CR-V automatic we already have
(with
> > >> > A/C). Interesting to see the differences between the 2 years.
> > >> >
> > >> > I believe the 1998 has a slightly larger, boxier body, but the real
> > >> > (not good) surprise has been the gas mileage. I have always been
told
> > >> > that manual trannies should get better gas mileage than automatics,
> > >> > all other things being equal. The 1998 has been getting only 22 mpg
> in
> > >> > mixed driving conditions. This car came with the typical Honda
dealer
> > >> > guarantees & it has been recently looked over and tuned up.
> > >> >
> > >> > When you look into various websites for gas mileage on this model
you
> > >> > hear anything from 22 to 26 to 31 mpg. I'm not too happy to be at
the
> > >> > bottom of that scale with the '98 model. Our '00 automatic gets an
> > >> > average of 26-28 mpg even with the a/c on.
> > >> >
> > >> > Otherwise the 1998 CR-V is superb. The CR-V is built on a Civic
base
> > >> > and handles like a tall car. The gearbox is a dream.
> > >> >
> > >> > So I'd suggest you find a way to verify fuel consumption on the '98
> > >> > you're checking out.
> > >> >
> > >> > Good luck!
> > >> >
> > >> > Cranky
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I have a 98 CR-V with ~160K Km on it. Still original brake
> pads/linings,
> > >> second set of tires, one rad flush, regular oil change, topped up
diff.
> > >> fluid for making noise when turning. Now time to replace timing belt.
> > >> Nothing else done or happened. Just keeps on going without any
trouble.
> > >> It is auto tranny. Oh, I installed NGK platinum plugs at 100K Km.
> > >> Gas mileage is consistent 10km/liter.
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

"Dmitry" <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.co m...
> Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> > Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> > poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> > mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> > will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> > the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> > it correctly, is just simple as that.
> >
> > Judy wrote:
> >
> >
>
> Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
> technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
> I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
> but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

you gotta lug the freakin engine to get max MPG. like, shift at 2000 rpm. be
in 5th gear at 45mph.

that said, one bad point about the RAV that i dunno if toyota cleared up is
that the IAC valve under the throttle tends to get gunked up and needs to be
cleaned out often, or it will have a poor cold idle and sometimes stall when
cold.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

"Dmitry" <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.co m...
> Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> > Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> > poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> > mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> > will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> > the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> > it correctly, is just simple as that.
> >
> > Judy wrote:
> >
> >
>
> Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
> technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
> I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
> but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

you gotta lug the freakin engine to get max MPG. like, shift at 2000 rpm. be
in 5th gear at 45mph.

that said, one bad point about the RAV that i dunno if toyota cleared up is
that the IAC valve under the throttle tends to get gunked up and needs to be
cleaned out often, or it will have a poor cold idle and sometimes stall when
cold.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

"Dmitry" <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.co m...
> Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> > Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> > poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> > mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> > will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> > the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> > it correctly, is just simple as that.
> >
> > Judy wrote:
> >
> >
>
> Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
> technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
> I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
> but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

you gotta lug the freakin engine to get max MPG. like, shift at 2000 rpm. be
in 5th gear at 45mph.

that said, one bad point about the RAV that i dunno if toyota cleared up is
that the IAC valve under the throttle tends to get gunked up and needs to be
cleaned out often, or it will have a poor cold idle and sometimes stall when
cold.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

"Dmitry" <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e6d180a.0311240610.301bad8c@posting.google.co m...
> Tom Resi <tomresi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<%18wb.32429$IZ1.25555@edtnps84>...
> > Assuming that it is tuned up, don't be too quick to blame the car for
> > poor mileage. The simple fact that you know how to shift gears doesn't
> > mean that you know how to drive it for good mileage. Always standard
> > will have better mileage than auto, but most people will get actually
> > the opposite (like you) for the simple reason they don't know how to do
> > it correctly, is just simple as that.
> >
> > Judy wrote:
> >
> >
>
> Hey Tom, could you please explain HOW to develop the correct
> technique for getting the best milege/kilometrage in regards of CRV?
> I get 23-25 mpg city only (2000 CRV 5-spd.), which I'm satisfied with,
> but of course would like to know if I could have a little more...

you gotta lug the freakin engine to get max MPG. like, shift at 2000 rpm. be
in 5th gear at 45mph.

that said, one bad point about the RAV that i dunno if toyota cleared up is
that the IAC valve under the throttle tends to get gunked up and needs to be
cleaned out often, or it will have a poor cold idle and sometimes stall when
cold.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:33:03 -0500, "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com>
wrote:

>What is G1? is it a 98? consumer report says that cr-v is 2.8 secs faster on
>0-60 ..but thats about it.

I'm not sure what the last year was for the G1 (1st generation) CRV
and RAV4, but '98 was certainly G1 for both. The problem wasn't 0-60
but 0-10 on the AT RAV. Trying to turn left through heavy traffic was
very scary.

The G1 AT CRV was slow. The fact that it kicked the RAV4's ass is
really pathetic.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:33:03 -0500, "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com>
wrote:

>What is G1? is it a 98? consumer report says that cr-v is 2.8 secs faster on
>0-60 ..but thats about it.

I'm not sure what the last year was for the G1 (1st generation) CRV
and RAV4, but '98 was certainly G1 for both. The problem wasn't 0-60
but 0-10 on the AT RAV. Trying to turn left through heavy traffic was
very scary.

The G1 AT CRV was slow. The fact that it kicked the RAV4's ass is
really pathetic.

Re: 98 CR-V reliable? or 98 rav4?
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:33:03 -0500, "jwacom201" <none@jwacom201.com>
wrote:

>What is G1? is it a 98? consumer report says that cr-v is 2.8 secs faster on
>0-60 ..but thats about it.

I'm not sure what the last year was for the G1 (1st generation) CRV
and RAV4, but '98 was certainly G1 for both. The problem wasn't 0-60
but 0-10 on the AT RAV. Trying to turn left through heavy traffic was
very scary.

The G1 AT CRV was slow. The fact that it kicked the RAV4's ass is
really pathetic.