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Accord vs. Camry ?
On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really
like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant difference but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and she can't recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, Hyundai Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off our list and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian cars depreciate faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and features essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one over the other. tnx Hank |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
Hank,
I have an 04 Accord EX-L 2.4 5 speed auto , my son has an 04 Camry SE 2.4 4speed auto I have driven his car and will say if you want cushy and smooth, the Camry is for you. If you like a little more spirited handling choose the Accord. From a standing start the Accord will lead the Camry. On a recent trip to California from AZ. both cars with 2 passengers traveling together The Accord got 33 mpg the Camry 31 mpg. My son has driven my Accord also and says he likes my dash layout better. The odometer is nearly impossible to read in the Camry in Bright sunlight. So it looks like its about 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I still prefer Accord and he a Camry. Scott P.S. Both cars have been trouble free in their first year and a half |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
Hank,
I have an 04 Accord EX-L 2.4 5 speed auto , my son has an 04 Camry SE 2.4 4speed auto I have driven his car and will say if you want cushy and smooth, the Camry is for you. If you like a little more spirited handling choose the Accord. From a standing start the Accord will lead the Camry. On a recent trip to California from AZ. both cars with 2 passengers traveling together The Accord got 33 mpg the Camry 31 mpg. My son has driven my Accord also and says he likes my dash layout better. The odometer is nearly impossible to read in the Camry in Bright sunlight. So it looks like its about 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I still prefer Accord and he a Camry. Scott P.S. Both cars have been trouble free in their first year and a half |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... the camry 4 cyl has a low hanging tailpipe that looks bad, look from behind and you will see. I have a honda and toyota but like the honda more |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... the camry 4 cyl has a low hanging tailpipe that looks bad, look from behind and you will see. I have a honda and toyota but like the honda more |
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dog wrote:
> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > the camry 4 cyl has a low hanging tailpipe that looks bad, look from behind > and you will see. I have a honda and toyota but like the honda more > > it's not low hanging. get under & measure it. optical illusion. |
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dog wrote:
> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > > the camry 4 cyl has a low hanging tailpipe that looks bad, look from behind > and you will see. I have a honda and toyota but like the honda more > > it's not low hanging. get under & measure it. optical illusion. |
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"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message news:25SdncwYtJWU4QffRVn-sw@speakeasy.net... > dog wrote: >> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >> it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message news:25SdncwYtJWU4QffRVn-sw@speakeasy.net... > dog wrote: >> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >> it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>, "Henry Kolesnik"
<kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really > like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant difference > but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and she can't > recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, Hyundai > Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off our list > and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian cars depreciate > faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and features > essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one over the > other. > tnx > Hank Hank, Both are excellent cars. It's really up to you. If you really like them both of them the same--let your wife make the final decision. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>, "Henry Kolesnik"
<kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really > like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant difference > but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and she can't > recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, Hyundai > Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off our list > and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian cars depreciate > faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and features > essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one over the > other. > tnx > Hank Hank, Both are excellent cars. It's really up to you. If you really like them both of them the same--let your wife make the final decision. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
"dog" <goose@cox.net> wrote in message news:z_Eme.1161$gO1.1109@okepread06... > > it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does > the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. If the tail pipe is your main concern, buy a tip for it. If you really feel the need to buy a Toyota {;^) |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
"dog" <goose@cox.net> wrote in message news:z_Eme.1161$gO1.1109@okepread06... > > it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does > the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. If the tail pipe is your main concern, buy a tip for it. If you really feel the need to buy a Toyota {;^) |
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"dog" <goose@cox.net> wrote in message
news:z_Eme.1161$gO1.1109@okepread06... > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > news:25SdncwYtJWU4QffRVn-sw@speakeasy.net... >> dog wrote: >>> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >>> > it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does > the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. > I feel about tail pipes the way I feel about my face: it may not be pretty, but I don't have to look at it! Mike |
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"dog" <goose@cox.net> wrote in message
news:z_Eme.1161$gO1.1109@okepread06... > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > news:25SdncwYtJWU4QffRVn-sw@speakeasy.net... >> dog wrote: >>> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >>> > it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does > the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. > I feel about tail pipes the way I feel about my face: it may not be pretty, but I don't have to look at it! Mike |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
"dog" <goose@cox.net> wrote in message
news:z_Eme.1161$gO1.1109@okepread06... > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > news:25SdncwYtJWU4QffRVn-sw@speakeasy.net... >> dog wrote: >>> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >>> > it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does > the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. How much time do you spend looking at the back of your car? I figure that's the problem of the guy behind me in traffic. |
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"dog" <goose@cox.net> wrote in message
news:z_Eme.1161$gO1.1109@okepread06... > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > news:25SdncwYtJWU4QffRVn-sw@speakeasy.net... >> dog wrote: >>> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >>> > it does not look good in any case, the v6 does not look low,neither does > the honda. If you want an ugly ass looking pipe then buy the camry. How much time do you spend looking at the back of your car? I figure that's the problem of the guy behind me in traffic. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
We just got a Camry
Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. -- Stephen W. Hansen ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician ASE Undercar Specialist "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really > like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant > difference but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and > she can't recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, > Hyundai Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off > our list and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian cars > depreciate faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and > features essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one > over the other. > tnx > Hank > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
We just got a Camry
Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. -- Stephen W. Hansen ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician ASE Undercar Specialist "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really > like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant > difference but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and > she can't recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, > Hyundai Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off > our list and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian cars > depreciate faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and > features essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one > over the other. > tnx > Hank > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
Steve
We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is silent. Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). tnx Hank "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > We just got a Camry > Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a > noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the chain > driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. > These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. > > -- > Stephen W. Hansen > ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician > ASE Undercar Specialist > > "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really >> like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant >> difference but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and >> she can't recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, >> Hyundai Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off >> our list and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian >> cars depreciate faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and >> features essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one >> over the other. >> tnx >> Hank >> > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
Steve
We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is silent. Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). tnx Hank "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > We just got a Camry > Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a > noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the chain > driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. > These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. > > -- > Stephen W. Hansen > ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician > ASE Undercar Specialist > > "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really >> like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant >> difference but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and >> she can't recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, >> Hyundai Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off >> our list and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian >> cars depreciate faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and >> features essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one >> over the other. >> tnx >> Hank >> > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
yeah but the Honda has more durability. they've done away with the timing
belt in ivtech engine. and just because toyota doesn't say you need a service within 110,000 miles doesn't mean it won't need any service. chances are it will need service before that amount of miles. toyotas aren't built the same as honda. hondas have excellent engines and the whole car is put together well. i'm sure in the long run you'll be alot happier with the accord and you can buy one with the same features. -jeff "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EBZme.749$RV5.322@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com. .. > Steve > We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles > is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What > does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen > mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if > 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda > mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is > silent. > Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power > seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. > Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted > vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). > tnx > Hank > "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> We just got a Camry >> Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a >> noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the >> chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. >> These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. >> >> -- >> Stephen W. Hansen >> ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician >> ASE Undercar Specialist >> >> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >>> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and >>> really like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant >>> difference but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and >>> she can't recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, >>> Hyundai Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off >>> our list and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian >>> cars depreciate faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and >>> features essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one >>> over the other. >>> tnx >>> Hank >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
yeah but the Honda has more durability. they've done away with the timing
belt in ivtech engine. and just because toyota doesn't say you need a service within 110,000 miles doesn't mean it won't need any service. chances are it will need service before that amount of miles. toyotas aren't built the same as honda. hondas have excellent engines and the whole car is put together well. i'm sure in the long run you'll be alot happier with the accord and you can buy one with the same features. -jeff "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EBZme.749$RV5.322@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com. .. > Steve > We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles > is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What > does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen > mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if > 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda > mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is > silent. > Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power > seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. > Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted > vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). > tnx > Hank > "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> We just got a Camry >> Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a >> noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the >> chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. >> These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. >> >> -- >> Stephen W. Hansen >> ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician >> ASE Undercar Specialist >> >> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >>> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and >>> really like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant >>> difference but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and >>> she can't recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, >>> Hyundai Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off >>> our list and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian >>> cars depreciate faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and >>> features essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one >>> over the other. >>> tnx >>> Hank >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
Both are fine cars and either one will go a long way.
You might want to check out the local dealer service departments to make this decision. I was fed up by a local Toyota dealer services to make a switch. However, I have heard bad story the other way around from my friends. Do not let the price and features fool you. Both cars are great if you have a good local dealer who can serve you. "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really > like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant difference > but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and she can't > recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, Hyundai > Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off our list > and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian cars depreciate > faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and features > essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one over the > other. > tnx > Hank > > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
Both are fine cars and either one will go a long way.
You might want to check out the local dealer service departments to make this decision. I was fed up by a local Toyota dealer services to make a switch. However, I have heard bad story the other way around from my friends. Do not let the price and features fool you. Both cars are great if you have a good local dealer who can serve you. "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Impme.54$RV5.4@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really > like both the Honda and Toyota. I couldn't find any significant difference > but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and she can't > recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, Hyundai > Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser. The PT & Matrix is off our list > and it's between Honda and Toyota because the other 2 Asian cars depreciate > faster. Apart from emotions with prices, performace and features > essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one over the > other. > tnx > Hank > > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <Mn_me.324$JW4.147@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,
"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > yeah but the Honda has more durability. No, not at all. Your chances of getting the same reliability out of either marque are equal. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <Mn_me.324$JW4.147@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,
"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > yeah but the Honda has more durability. No, not at all. Your chances of getting the same reliability out of either marque are equal. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <Mn_me.324$JW4.147@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,
"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > and just because toyota doesn't say you need a > service within 110,000 miles doesn't mean it won't need any service. (ahem) He said it was HONDA that made that claim, and that TOYOTA was silent on the issue. Read up before you make a total ass of yourself--again. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <Mn_me.324$JW4.147@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,
"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > and just because toyota doesn't say you need a > service within 110,000 miles doesn't mean it won't need any service. (ahem) He said it was HONDA that made that claim, and that TOYOTA was silent on the issue. Read up before you make a total ass of yourself--again. |
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dude buy what u want. toyotas are not as good as honda but if you want to
boast about buying a toyota find a toyota group don't come in here trying to put people down this is a honda group. buy the toyota i hope you have to take it in for service everyday. -jeff "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-CA7B6E.14471631052005@nntp3.usenetserver.com... > In article <Mn_me.324$JW4.147@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, > "hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> and just because toyota doesn't say you need a >> service within 110,000 miles doesn't mean it won't need any service. > > (ahem) He said it was HONDA that made that claim, and that TOYOTA was > silent on the issue. > > Read up before you make a total ass of yourself--again. > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
dude buy what u want. toyotas are not as good as honda but if you want to
boast about buying a toyota find a toyota group don't come in here trying to put people down this is a honda group. buy the toyota i hope you have to take it in for service everyday. -jeff "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-CA7B6E.14471631052005@nntp3.usenetserver.com... > In article <Mn_me.324$JW4.147@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, > "hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> and just because toyota doesn't say you need a >> service within 110,000 miles doesn't mean it won't need any service. > > (ahem) He said it was HONDA that made that claim, and that TOYOTA was > silent on the issue. > > Read up before you make a total ass of yourself--again. > |
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"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:GKane.457$pG6.321@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com. .. > dude buy what u want. toyotas are not as good as honda but if you want to > boast about buying a toyota find a toyota group don't come in here trying > to put people down this is a honda group. buy the toyota i hope you have > to take it in for service everyday. Because this is a Honda group people have to put down Toyota? Both cars can't be reliable? What a tool... |
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"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:GKane.457$pG6.321@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com. .. > dude buy what u want. toyotas are not as good as honda but if you want to > boast about buying a toyota find a toyota group don't come in here trying > to put people down this is a honda group. buy the toyota i hope you have > to take it in for service everyday. Because this is a Honda group people have to put down Toyota? Both cars can't be reliable? What a tool... |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
I don't know how they get totally away with the EGR, it has to do with being
able to change the valve timing when it's needed. The belted 4-cylinder Toyota (2.2) is gone for now, we have the 2.4 chain drive. (supposedly good for 250,000 miles) Also note with the Toyota VS Accord. Almost everything on a 4-cyl Toyota a do-it yourselfer can do. The alternator is in plain site, the starter on top. Very user friendly. On Honda's you may never know where they stuff an alternator. Now for those who have to pay for the work, the labor rates are determined by how hard a job is to do. therefore, the job would be cheaper. Also, many Honda parts cost more. -- Stephen W. Hansen ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician ASE Undercar Specialist "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EBZme.749$RV5.322@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com. .. > Steve > We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles > is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What > does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen > mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if > 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda > mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is > silent. > Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power > seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. > Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted > vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). > tnx > Hank > "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> We just got a Camry >> Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a >> noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the >> chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. >> These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. >> |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
I don't know how they get totally away with the EGR, it has to do with being
able to change the valve timing when it's needed. The belted 4-cylinder Toyota (2.2) is gone for now, we have the 2.4 chain drive. (supposedly good for 250,000 miles) Also note with the Toyota VS Accord. Almost everything on a 4-cyl Toyota a do-it yourselfer can do. The alternator is in plain site, the starter on top. Very user friendly. On Honda's you may never know where they stuff an alternator. Now for those who have to pay for the work, the labor rates are determined by how hard a job is to do. therefore, the job would be cheaper. Also, many Honda parts cost more. -- Stephen W. Hansen ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician ASE Undercar Specialist "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EBZme.749$RV5.322@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com. .. > Steve > We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles > is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What > does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen > mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if > 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda > mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is > silent. > Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power > seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. > Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted > vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). > tnx > Hank > "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> We just got a Camry >> Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a >> noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the >> chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. >> These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. >> |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <GKane.457$pG6.321@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,
"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > dude buy what u want. toyotas are not as good as honda Ah, the old Ford vs. Chevy redneck mentality manages to creep in everywhere. "Dude", you're an ass. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
In article <GKane.457$pG6.321@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>,
"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > dude buy what u want. toyotas are not as good as honda Ah, the old Ford vs. Chevy redneck mentality manages to creep in everywhere. "Dude", you're an ass. |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
I'll probaly do the regular wear and tear work myself, like changing oil,
filters, brakes, etc. After that there shouldn't be much. On the no EGR the Camry mechanic told me its a closed system that has been around for a while. I'm still thinking about getting the 7 year, 100,000 mile warranty if I can get them down to $1000.00. Hank "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Zmbne.868773$w62.51644@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >I don't know how they get totally away with the EGR, it has to do with >being able to change the valve timing when it's needed. The belted >4-cylinder Toyota (2.2) is gone for now, we have the 2.4 chain drive. >(supposedly good for 250,000 miles) > Also note with the Toyota VS Accord. Almost everything on a 4-cyl Toyota a > do-it yourselfer can do. The alternator is in plain site, the starter on > top. Very user friendly. On Honda's you may never know where they stuff an > alternator. Now for those who have to pay for the work, the labor rates > are determined by how hard a job is to do. therefore, the job would be > cheaper. Also, many Honda parts cost more. > -- > Stephen W. Hansen > ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician > ASE Undercar Specialist > > > > > "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:EBZme.749$RV5.322@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com. .. >> Steve >> We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles >> is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What >> does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen >> mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if >> 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda >> mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is >> silent. >> Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power >> seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. >> Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted >> vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). >> tnx >> Hank >> "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>> We just got a Camry >>> Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a >>> noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the >>> chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. >>> These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. >>> > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
I'll probaly do the regular wear and tear work myself, like changing oil,
filters, brakes, etc. After that there shouldn't be much. On the no EGR the Camry mechanic told me its a closed system that has been around for a while. I'm still thinking about getting the 7 year, 100,000 mile warranty if I can get them down to $1000.00. Hank "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Zmbne.868773$w62.51644@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >I don't know how they get totally away with the EGR, it has to do with >being able to change the valve timing when it's needed. The belted >4-cylinder Toyota (2.2) is gone for now, we have the 2.4 chain drive. >(supposedly good for 250,000 miles) > Also note with the Toyota VS Accord. Almost everything on a 4-cyl Toyota a > do-it yourselfer can do. The alternator is in plain site, the starter on > top. Very user friendly. On Honda's you may never know where they stuff an > alternator. Now for those who have to pay for the work, the labor rates > are determined by how hard a job is to do. therefore, the job would be > cheaper. Also, many Honda parts cost more. > -- > Stephen W. Hansen > ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician > ASE Undercar Specialist > > > > > "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:EBZme.749$RV5.322@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com. .. >> Steve >> We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles >> is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What >> does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen >> mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know if >> 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that Honda >> mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but Toyota is >> silent. >> Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers power >> seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the hiway. >> Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and lighted >> vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). >> tnx >> Hank >> "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>> We just got a Camry >>> Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a >>> noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the >>> chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. >>> These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. >>> > > |
Re: Accord vs. Camry ?
with a name like shagnasty you must be a total retard. take your crappy
attitude to the toyota group or they'll probably tell you the same thing there. "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:XCine.1088$RV5.421@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ... > I'll probaly do the regular wear and tear work myself, like changing oil, > filters, brakes, etc. After that there shouldn't be much. On the no EGR > the Camry mechanic told me its a closed system that has been around for a > while. I'm still thinking about getting the 7 year, 100,000 mile warranty > if I can get them down to $1000.00. > Hank > "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:Zmbne.868773$w62.51644@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>I don't know how they get totally away with the EGR, it has to do with >>being able to change the valve timing when it's needed. The belted >>4-cylinder Toyota (2.2) is gone for now, we have the 2.4 chain drive. >>(supposedly good for 250,000 miles) >> Also note with the Toyota VS Accord. Almost everything on a 4-cyl Toyota >> a do-it yourselfer can do. The alternator is in plain site, the starter >> on top. Very user friendly. On Honda's you may never know where they >> stuff an alternator. Now for those who have to pay for the work, the >> labor rates are determined by how hard a job is to do. therefore, the job >> would be cheaper. Also, many Honda parts cost more. >> -- >> Stephen W. Hansen >> ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician >> ASE Undercar Specialist >> >> >> >> >> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:EBZme.749$RV5.322@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com. .. >>> Steve >>> We're leaning toward a new 05 Camry because a used one with 25,000 miles >>> is about 16,000 and a new one with a few more goodies is $18,400. What >>> does Camry do instead of EGR? This is one subject I've not seen >>> mentioned. I was aware fo the noninterference engine but I don't know >>> if 4 cylinder VVIT has a chain or a belt. I did however notice that >>> Honda mentions a 110,000 miles service interval in its brochure but >>> Toyota is silent. >>> Comparing new cars, the Toyota in Silver looks nicer, has a drivers >>> power seat, radio controls on the steering wheel, and is quieter on the >>> hiway. Only things the Honda has that we'd like is telescoping wheel and >>> lighted vanity mirrorss (wife, not me). >>> tnx >>> Hank >>> "Steve" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:b9Rme.862066$w62.708246@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>>> We just got a Camry >>>> Why? The Camry (used) was a bit cheaper. The t-belted Camry is a >>>> noninterference engine, safe if the belt were to break, however, the >>>> chain driven (VVIT?) Camry has no EGR system, and no belt to change. >>>> These were my choices; and as others said, both fine cars. >>>> >> >> > > |
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