Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks. No shortage here of that "special vocabulary".
> Any other tricky things to watch out for?
>
Only to triple-check everything after you get the new belt on and before you
put the cover on. Familiarize yourself with the adjustment (timing and
tensioning) procedures. I think one of the links posted here talks about
making marks on the edge of the old belt, transfering them to the new belt
and using that to verify timing on the new belt. If not, ask for more
details.

Except for that forsaken crank bolt the job is really not that much worse
than a brake job, and an impact wrench is the easiest way to loosen the
crank bolt... especially if somebody else is using the impact wrench ;-)
Retightening is not nearly so bad, especially if you have a holding tool.
Even with just a strap wrench to hold the pulley you can get enough torque
on the bolt.

Mike

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I was curious about what Ebay currently has to offer. A few like the one
> pictured at the link above are available, but there is also this, for the
> price of $19 before shipping and handling:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFO...spagenameZWD1V
>
> Anyone tried this version?
>
No, but it looks like it should do the job. The weld between the fitting and
the stamped handle might not hold up to repeated use.

Mike

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I was curious about what Ebay currently has to offer. A few like the one
> pictured at the link above are available, but there is also this, for the
> price of $19 before shipping and handling:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFO...spagenameZWD1V
>
> Anyone tried this version?
>
No, but it looks like it should do the job. The weld between the fitting and
the stamped handle might not hold up to repeated use.

Mike

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I was curious about what Ebay currently has to offer. A few like the one
> pictured at the link above are available, but there is also this, for the
> price of $19 before shipping and handling:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFO...spagenameZWD1V
>
> Anyone tried this version?
>
No, but it looks like it should do the job. The weld between the fitting and
the stamped handle might not hold up to repeated use.

Mike

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I was remiss before: Any liquid falling on the timing belt can reduce its
> life significantly. So shucks yes, a missing lower cover sure could do
> this, from my reading, especially if you've been driving through some
> flooded roads.
>

It occured to me - I was talking with our fiber optic cable guru just this
week about some damage we had up here from a falling tree, and he was
concerned whether the Aramid/Kevlar strands were exposed. He said water
severely reduces the strength of Kevlar. I bet the same threads are used for
strength in the timing belts, in which case water exposure could cause the
sort of "chapping" action the picture shows.

I don't see much on the net about it, though.

Mike

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I was remiss before: Any liquid falling on the timing belt can reduce its
> life significantly. So shucks yes, a missing lower cover sure could do
> this, from my reading, especially if you've been driving through some
> flooded roads.
>

It occured to me - I was talking with our fiber optic cable guru just this
week about some damage we had up here from a falling tree, and he was
concerned whether the Aramid/Kevlar strands were exposed. He said water
severely reduces the strength of Kevlar. I bet the same threads are used for
strength in the timing belts, in which case water exposure could cause the
sort of "chapping" action the picture shows.

I don't see much on the net about it, though.

Mike

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:YCDTg.3519$Y24.2835@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>
> I was remiss before: Any liquid falling on the timing belt can reduce its
> life significantly. So shucks yes, a missing lower cover sure could do
> this, from my reading, especially if you've been driving through some
> flooded roads.
>

It occured to me - I was talking with our fiber optic cable guru just this
week about some damage we had up here from a falling tree, and he was
concerned whether the Aramid/Kevlar strands were exposed. He said water
severely reduces the strength of Kevlar. I bet the same threads are used for
strength in the timing belts, in which case water exposure could cause the
sort of "chapping" action the picture shows.

I don't see much on the net about it, though.

Mike

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> I was remiss before: Any liquid falling on the timing
>> belt can reduce its life significantly. So shucks yes, a
>> missing lower cover sure could do this, from my reading,
>> especially if you've been driving through some flooded
>> roads.
>>
>
> It occured to me - I was talking with our fiber optic
> cable guru just this week about some damage we had up here
> from a falling tree, and he was concerned whether the
> Aramid/Kevlar strands were exposed. He said water severely
> reduces the strength of Kevlar. I bet the same threads are
> used for strength in the timing belts, in which case water
> exposure could cause the sort of "chapping" action the
> picture shows.
>
> I don't see much on the net about it, though.

Good anecdote.

I agree that tool I linked earlier looks flimsier. I would
hope it would last at least two TB changes, which is pretty
good for $25 total or so. Since "Performance Tool" makes it,
then IIRC Pep Boys might carry it, and one could ask what
the return policy was. It's specifically supposed to work on
certain Hondas, per the description, so I would think PB
would refund money readily if it broke the first time
around.

Note to some others: If you cannot see the detail in the
photo the OP linked, do not feel bad. Neither can I.

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> I was remiss before: Any liquid falling on the timing
>> belt can reduce its life significantly. So shucks yes, a
>> missing lower cover sure could do this, from my reading,
>> especially if you've been driving through some flooded
>> roads.
>>
>
> It occured to me - I was talking with our fiber optic
> cable guru just this week about some damage we had up here
> from a falling tree, and he was concerned whether the
> Aramid/Kevlar strands were exposed. He said water severely
> reduces the strength of Kevlar. I bet the same threads are
> used for strength in the timing belts, in which case water
> exposure could cause the sort of "chapping" action the
> picture shows.
>
> I don't see much on the net about it, though.

Good anecdote.

I agree that tool I linked earlier looks flimsier. I would
hope it would last at least two TB changes, which is pretty
good for $25 total or so. Since "Performance Tool" makes it,
then IIRC Pep Boys might carry it, and one could ask what
the return policy was. It's specifically supposed to work on
certain Hondas, per the description, so I would think PB
would refund money readily if it broke the first time
around.

Note to some others: If you cannot see the detail in the
photo the OP linked, do not feel bad. Neither can I.

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> I was remiss before: Any liquid falling on the timing
>> belt can reduce its life significantly. So shucks yes, a
>> missing lower cover sure could do this, from my reading,
>> especially if you've been driving through some flooded
>> roads.
>>
>
> It occured to me - I was talking with our fiber optic
> cable guru just this week about some damage we had up here
> from a falling tree, and he was concerned whether the
> Aramid/Kevlar strands were exposed. He said water severely
> reduces the strength of Kevlar. I bet the same threads are
> used for strength in the timing belts, in which case water
> exposure could cause the sort of "chapping" action the
> picture shows.
>
> I don't see much on the net about it, though.

Good anecdote.

I agree that tool I linked earlier looks flimsier. I would
hope it would last at least two TB changes, which is pretty
good for $25 total or so. Since "Performance Tool" makes it,
then IIRC Pep Boys might carry it, and one could ask what
the return policy was. It's specifically supposed to work on
certain Hondas, per the description, so I would think PB
would refund money readily if it broke the first time
around.

Note to some others: If you cannot see the detail in the
photo the OP linked, do not feel bad. Neither can I.

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

It's a good idea to change the water pump while your in there. The first
time I replaced the timing belt on my wife's Civic I never thought to do the
water pump, 7000 miles later I was in there again replacing the water pump.
The pump cost me $17, I really hated myself for not thinking to replace the
WP while I was doing the belt.
"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159641965.502369.318550@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Thanks. No shortage here of that "special vocabulary".
> Any other tricky things to watch out for?
>
>
>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> Besides the special techniques, I think the special bolt requires
>> special vocabulary. But once it moves the rest is downhill.
>

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

It's a good idea to change the water pump while your in there. The first
time I replaced the timing belt on my wife's Civic I never thought to do the
water pump, 7000 miles later I was in there again replacing the water pump.
The pump cost me $17, I really hated myself for not thinking to replace the
WP while I was doing the belt.
"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159641965.502369.318550@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Thanks. No shortage here of that "special vocabulary".
> Any other tricky things to watch out for?
>
>
>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> Besides the special techniques, I think the special bolt requires
>> special vocabulary. But once it moves the rest is downhill.
>

Re: Bad Timing Belt?
 

It's a good idea to change the water pump while your in there. The first
time I replaced the timing belt on my wife's Civic I never thought to do the
water pump, 7000 miles later I was in there again replacing the water pump.
The pump cost me $17, I really hated myself for not thinking to replace the
WP while I was doing the belt.
"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159641965.502369.318550@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Thanks. No shortage here of that "special vocabulary".
> Any other tricky things to watch out for?
>
>
>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> Besides the special techniques, I think the special bolt requires
>> special vocabulary. But once it moves the rest is downhill.
>