Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
#31
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
"Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>> adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
> to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
following:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
above with you to the store to get the sale price.
Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
$32. It is probably just fine.
From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off?
No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
(around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
manual for my 91 Civic.
> I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>
>
> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>> flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
part.
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>> adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
> to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
following:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
above with you to the store to get the sale price.
Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
$32. It is probably just fine.
From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off?
No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
(around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
manual for my 91 Civic.
> I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>
>
> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>> flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
part.
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Elle wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
>> who knows? the small tube might "interference fit" inside
>> the mityvac tubing.
>
> Maybe so.
>
>>> To the others: I want to stick with the Mity-Vac approach
>>> a bit longer.
>> i like my mityvac. unscrew the bleeder, pump it a couple
>> times, eye on the brake fluid reservoir. once it starts
>> coming out "straw colored", im done.
>
> It sure seemed easy this second time around. Though I have a
> new floor jack and now four jack stands, and that helped.
>
> About how much brake fluid do you tend to end up using on a
> flush?
>
>
its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
fluid.
but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
>> who knows? the small tube might "interference fit" inside
>> the mityvac tubing.
>
> Maybe so.
>
>>> To the others: I want to stick with the Mity-Vac approach
>>> a bit longer.
>> i like my mityvac. unscrew the bleeder, pump it a couple
>> times, eye on the brake fluid reservoir. once it starts
>> coming out "straw colored", im done.
>
> It sure seemed easy this second time around. Though I have a
> new floor jack and now four jack stands, and that helped.
>
> About how much brake fluid do you tend to end up using on a
> flush?
>
>
its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
fluid.
but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
#33
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Elle wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
>> who knows? the small tube might "interference fit" inside
>> the mityvac tubing.
>
> Maybe so.
>
>>> To the others: I want to stick with the Mity-Vac approach
>>> a bit longer.
>> i like my mityvac. unscrew the bleeder, pump it a couple
>> times, eye on the brake fluid reservoir. once it starts
>> coming out "straw colored", im done.
>
> It sure seemed easy this second time around. Though I have a
> new floor jack and now four jack stands, and that helped.
>
> About how much brake fluid do you tend to end up using on a
> flush?
>
>
its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
fluid.
but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
>> who knows? the small tube might "interference fit" inside
>> the mityvac tubing.
>
> Maybe so.
>
>>> To the others: I want to stick with the Mity-Vac approach
>>> a bit longer.
>> i like my mityvac. unscrew the bleeder, pump it a couple
>> times, eye on the brake fluid reservoir. once it starts
>> coming out "straw colored", im done.
>
> It sure seemed easy this second time around. Though I have a
> new floor jack and now four jack stands, and that helped.
>
> About how much brake fluid do you tend to end up using on a
> flush?
>
>
its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
fluid.
but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
#34
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Elle wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
>> who knows? the small tube might "interference fit" inside
>> the mityvac tubing.
>
> Maybe so.
>
>>> To the others: I want to stick with the Mity-Vac approach
>>> a bit longer.
>> i like my mityvac. unscrew the bleeder, pump it a couple
>> times, eye on the brake fluid reservoir. once it starts
>> coming out "straw colored", im done.
>
> It sure seemed easy this second time around. Though I have a
> new floor jack and now four jack stands, and that helped.
>
> About how much brake fluid do you tend to end up using on a
> flush?
>
>
its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
fluid.
but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
>> who knows? the small tube might "interference fit" inside
>> the mityvac tubing.
>
> Maybe so.
>
>>> To the others: I want to stick with the Mity-Vac approach
>>> a bit longer.
>> i like my mityvac. unscrew the bleeder, pump it a couple
>> times, eye on the brake fluid reservoir. once it starts
>> coming out "straw colored", im done.
>
> It sure seemed easy this second time around. Though I have a
> new floor jack and now four jack stands, and that helped.
>
> About how much brake fluid do you tend to end up using on a
> flush?
>
>
its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
fluid.
but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Mike Doyle wrote:
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.
any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
>
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is, check)
>> bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to (1) maybe get a
>> better fit from adapter to valve; and (2) minimize air introduction
>> into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
the rust belt, if thats where you are.
>
>
> ..... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
>
> Mike
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.
any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
>
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is, check)
>> bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to (1) maybe get a
>> better fit from adapter to valve; and (2) minimize air introduction
>> into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
the rust belt, if thats where you are.
>
>
> ..... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
>
> Mike
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Mike Doyle wrote:
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.
any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
>
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is, check)
>> bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to (1) maybe get a
>> better fit from adapter to valve; and (2) minimize air introduction
>> into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
the rust belt, if thats where you are.
>
>
> ..... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
>
> Mike
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.
any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
>
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is, check)
>> bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to (1) maybe get a
>> better fit from adapter to valve; and (2) minimize air introduction
>> into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
the rust belt, if thats where you are.
>
>
> ..... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
>
> Mike
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Mike Doyle wrote:
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.
any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
>
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is, check)
>> bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to (1) maybe get a
>> better fit from adapter to valve; and (2) minimize air introduction
>> into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
the rust belt, if thats where you are.
>
>
> ..... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
>
> Mike
> Elle wrote:
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?
i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.
any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
>
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is, check)
>> bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to (1) maybe get a
>> better fit from adapter to valve; and (2) minimize air introduction
>> into the rear brake system.
>
> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
> & hope they don't cause trouble.
they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
the rust belt, if thats where you are.
>
>
> ..... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the flush.
>
> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
> comments on this?
never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
>
> Mike
#38
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Elle wrote:
> "Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
>> Elle wrote:
>>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>>> adapters).
>> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
>> to
>> buy the Mity-Vac?
>
> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
> following:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>
> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
> above with you to the store to get the sale price.
woo hoo... thats mine as well!
>
> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
> $32. It is probably just fine.
i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
all-plastic version would last that long in my hands
>
> From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
> person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
> valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
> these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
> Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>
>>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off?
>
> No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
> as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
> (around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>
> I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
> these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
> manual for my 91 Civic.
>
>> I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>>
>>
>> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>>> flush.
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
it ran like new.
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
>
> Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
> tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
> I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
> part.
>
>
> "Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
>> Elle wrote:
>>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>>> adapters).
>> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
>> to
>> buy the Mity-Vac?
>
> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
> following:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>
> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
> above with you to the store to get the sale price.
woo hoo... thats mine as well!
>
> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
> $32. It is probably just fine.
i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
all-plastic version would last that long in my hands
>
> From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
> person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
> valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
> these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
> Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>
>>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off?
>
> No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
> as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
> (around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>
> I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
> these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
> manual for my 91 Civic.
>
>> I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>>
>>
>> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>>> flush.
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
it ran like new.
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
>
> Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
> tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
> I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
> part.
>
>
#39
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Elle wrote:
> "Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
>> Elle wrote:
>>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>>> adapters).
>> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
>> to
>> buy the Mity-Vac?
>
> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
> following:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>
> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
> above with you to the store to get the sale price.
woo hoo... thats mine as well!
>
> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
> $32. It is probably just fine.
i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
all-plastic version would last that long in my hands
>
> From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
> person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
> valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
> these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
> Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>
>>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off?
>
> No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
> as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
> (around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>
> I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
> these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
> manual for my 91 Civic.
>
>> I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>>
>>
>> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>>> flush.
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
it ran like new.
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
>
> Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
> tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
> I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
> part.
>
>
> "Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
>> Elle wrote:
>>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>>> adapters).
>> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
>> to
>> buy the Mity-Vac?
>
> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
> following:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>
> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
> above with you to the store to get the sale price.
woo hoo... thats mine as well!
>
> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
> $32. It is probably just fine.
i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
all-plastic version would last that long in my hands
>
> From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
> person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
> valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
> these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
> Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>
>>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off?
>
> No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
> as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
> (around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>
> I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
> these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
> manual for my 91 Civic.
>
>> I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>>
>>
>> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>>> flush.
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
it ran like new.
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
>
> Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
> tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
> I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
> part.
>
>
#40
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
Elle wrote:
> "Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
>> Elle wrote:
>>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>>> adapters).
>> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
>> to
>> buy the Mity-Vac?
>
> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
> following:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>
> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
> above with you to the store to get the sale price.
woo hoo... thats mine as well!
>
> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
> $32. It is probably just fine.
i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
all-plastic version would last that long in my hands
>
> From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
> person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
> valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
> these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
> Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>
>>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off?
>
> No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
> as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
> (around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>
> I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
> these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
> manual for my 91 Civic.
>
>> I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>>
>>
>> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>>> flush.
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
it ran like new.
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
>
> Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
> tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
> I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
> part.
>
>
> "Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
>> Elle wrote:
>>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the
>>> second time, on my 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the
>>> Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held vacuum pump, connecting to
>>> a small container to collect fluid, tubing, and
>>> adapters).
>> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source
>> to
>> buy the Mity-Vac?
>
> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
> following:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>
> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
> above with you to the store to get the sale price.
woo hoo... thats mine as well!
>
> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
> $32. It is probably just fine.
i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
all-plastic version would last that long in my hands
>
> From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
> person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
> valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
> these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
> Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
>
>>> I am thinking of buying a set of those one-way (that is,
>>> check) bleeder valves that Pep Boys, for one, sells, to
>>> (1) maybe get a better fit from adapter to valve; and (2)
>>> minimize air introduction into the rear brake system.
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off?
>
> No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
> as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
> (around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.
even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>
> I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
> these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
> manual for my 91 Civic.
>
>> I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.
>>
>>
>> .... I used a 32 oz ( = two pints) container of Valvoline
>>> "exceeds DOT 3 and 4 requirements" brake fluid for the
>>> flush.
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
it ran like new.
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
>
> Let the group know how it goes... :-) I found it a little
> tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
> I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
> part.
>
>
#41
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!
IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.
I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands
Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.
Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!
IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.
I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands
Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.
Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.
#42
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Posts: n/a
Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!
IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.
I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands
Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.
Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!
IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.
I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands
Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.
Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.
#43
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Posts: n/a
Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!
IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.
I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands
Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.
Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!
IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.
I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands
Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.
Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.
#44
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Posts: n/a
Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
......
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT..._8070_(GB).pdf
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT..._8070_(GB).pdf
#45
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Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
......
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT..._8070_(GB).pdf
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT..._8070_(GB).pdf