Can Igniters be fixed?
#31
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
> I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
>
> I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> cycle, but an ignitor?
>
It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
longer in use.
here's a pic and some info on one.
http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
> I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
>
> I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> cycle, but an ignitor?
>
It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
longer in use.
here's a pic and some info on one.
http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
#32
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
> I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
>
> I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> cycle, but an ignitor?
>
It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
longer in use.
here's a pic and some info on one.
http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
> I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
>
> I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> cycle, but an ignitor?
>
It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
longer in use.
here's a pic and some info on one.
http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
#33
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
> I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
>
> I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> cycle, but an ignitor?
>
It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
longer in use.
here's a pic and some info on one.
http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
> I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
>
> I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> cycle, but an ignitor?
>
It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
longer in use.
here's a pic and some info on one.
http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
#34
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
#35
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
#36
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
#37
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
"What the hell is an ignitor?"
Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
you don't have any other name for.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:400F2405.A1C5F374@junkmail.com...
> Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
>
> I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> radiation is kept to a minimum.
>
> Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
> > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
each
> > > > > replacement?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
5,000
> > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > distributor
> > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
the
> > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > >
> > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
igniter.
> > Its too
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
long
> > > > time...
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
miles.
> > >
> > >
#38
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
Honda is certainly not the only car manufacturer that uses ignitors (= igniters
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
Honda is certainly not the only car manufacturer that uses ignitors (= igniters
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
Honda is certainly not the only car manufacturer that uses ignitors (= igniters
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
Honda is certainly not the only car manufacturer that uses ignitors (= igniters
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
= ignition control module).
I see igniters listed online for sale for 1984 Plymouth Reliants. E.g. see
http://www.plymouthpartstore.com/ , which says they have them for $79 for the
smaller, 2.2 liter engine and over $135 for the larger, 2.6 liter engine (not
counting shipping costs).
This particular site calls the part "ignition control module," but I bet the
exact same part for your car is also routinely called "igniter" or "ignitor."
Lots on the net on the subject...
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote
> OK. So, what does Chrysler call it?
>
> My mother's 1984 Plymouth Reliant died last year. The local garage
> guy said he put in a new ignitor. It worked and didn't cost
> a lot, so I didn't worry about except that I thought to myself,
> "What the hell is an ignitor?"
>
> Apparently, it is what you call left-over ignition parts that
> you don't have any other name for.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote
> > Honda actually calls it an Ignition Control Module, others call it an
> > ignition amplifier. As a mechanical engineer you probably appreciate the
> > old style ignition with points in the distributor. The way Honda does
> > (did?) electronic ignition, the ECU sends out a pulse every time it
> > wants voltage to be applied to the coil primary (based on solid state
> > sensors in the distributor housing). The igniter is not much more than a
> > power transistor that receives this pulse from the ECU and in turn does
> > the actual switching of power to the coil primary.
> >
> > I don't know if this is why Honda did it this way, but the wire to the
> > coil primary switches a fair amount of current, and the harmonic content
> > is very high. It is a nasty RF noise radiator and by keeping the wire
> > only a few inches long, neatly tucked into the distributor housing, the
> > radiation is kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Al Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> > >
> > > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > > cycle, but an ignitor?
> > >
> > > "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uryPb.22207$zj7.8223@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > "Jason Faas" <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote
> > > > Caroline wrote:
> > > > > > This the first time you replaced the ignitor? How many miles at
> each
> > > > > > replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, this is my first time. I have only owned the car for about
> 5,000
> > > > > miles. It is now at 126,000 and is in excellent condition. The
> > > distributor
> > > > > was replaced at 119,000 and I don't know if they would have replaced
> the
> > > > > igniter then or used what was in it.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, from my experience, they wouldn't necessarily replace the
> igniter.
> > > Its too
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the one I pulled lasted more
> > > > > than 7,000 miles! I should say I hope the new one lasts a long,
> long
> > > > > time...
> > > >
> > > > I think I'm going to replace mine regularly now, at about every 80k
> miles.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
#42
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9477CEB53310Djyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. .
> "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
>
>
> It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
> current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
> longer in use.
>
> here's a pic and some info on one.
> http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net
#43
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9477CEB53310Djyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. .
> "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
>
>
> It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
> current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
> longer in use.
>
> here's a pic and some info on one.
> http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net
#44
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9477CEB53310Djyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21.. .
> "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
>
>
> It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
> current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
> longer in use.
>
> here's a pic and some info on one.
> http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net
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Re: Can Igniters be fixed?
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:100u7o0h5bgj43c@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > I gotta ask. What is an ignitor? What does it do?
> >
> > I am a mechanical engineer. I know all about the Otto
> > cycle, but an ignitor?
> >
>
>
> It's what Honda called the ignition control module,that switches the
> current thru the ignition coil in place of the old-style breaker points no
> longer in use.
>
> here's a pic and some info on one.
> http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net