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Philip 01-05-2005 12:46 PM

CHOKE on this!
 
Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars

Ivanhoe Newswire
www.ivanhoe.com
September 1, 2004

Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
than diesel car exhaust.

Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
message against tobacco use for adolescents.

Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
exhausts.

The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.

Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.

The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
higher than those measured outdoors.

This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:

http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.

SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221



Cosmin N. 01-05-2005 01:23 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 
Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P

The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study
proving that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to
smoking, because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
influences. That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it
works, because not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.

I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and
the chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the
number of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
cigarettes in one day, and that was because I had to completely
reassemble my old Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs,
front end, swing arm and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything
back together).

Cosmin


Philip wrote:
> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>
> Ivanhoe Newswire
> www.ivanhoe.com
> September 1, 2004
>
> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
> than diesel car exhaust.
>
> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>
> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
> exhausts.
>
> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
> there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
> diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
> closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
> with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>
> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>
> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
> higher than those measured outdoors.
>
> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>
> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>
> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>
>


Cosmin N. 01-05-2005 01:23 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 
Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P

The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study
proving that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to
smoking, because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other
influences. That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it
works, because not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.

I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and
the chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the
number of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
cigarettes in one day, and that was because I had to completely
reassemble my old Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs,
front end, swing arm and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything
back together).

Cosmin


Philip wrote:
> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>
> Ivanhoe Newswire
> www.ivanhoe.com
> September 1, 2004
>
> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
> than diesel car exhaust.
>
> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>
> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
> exhausts.
>
> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
> there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
> diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
> closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
> with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>
> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>
> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
> higher than those measured outdoors.
>
> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>
> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>
> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>
>


Philip 01-05-2005 02:04 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 
Hope peer pressure does not lead to teenage girls leaving lipstick marks on
the exhaust pipe of their VW Cabriolet TDI's.
--
~Philip.


Cosmin N. wrote:
> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>
> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes
> have very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study
> proving that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to
> smoking, because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and
> other influences. That seems to be the reason behind this study, and
> I hope it works, because not starting to smoke is so much easier than
> trying to quit.
> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and
> the chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the
> number of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
> cigarettes in one day, and that was because I had to completely
> reassemble my old Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs,
> front end, swing arm and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything
> back together).
>
> Cosmin
>
>
> Philip wrote:
>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>> www.ivanhoe.com
>> September 1, 2004
>>
>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable
>> educational message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>
>> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the
>> most dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study,
>> levels indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine
>> models and lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter
>> emissions from car exhausts.
>>
>> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain
>> town where there are very low levels of particulate matter air
>> pollution. A turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in
>> the garage with the doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for
>> four hours. The car was fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter
>> cigarettes were also lit up sequentially, and left smoldering for
>> another 30 minutes. Results of the experiment show the diesel engine
>> exhaust doubled the
>> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>
>> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels
>> 15-times higher than those measured outdoors.
>>
>> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts
>> by e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>
>> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>
>> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221




Philip 01-05-2005 02:04 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 
Hope peer pressure does not lead to teenage girls leaving lipstick marks on
the exhaust pipe of their VW Cabriolet TDI's.
--
~Philip.


Cosmin N. wrote:
> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>
> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes
> have very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study
> proving that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to
> smoking, because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and
> other influences. That seems to be the reason behind this study, and
> I hope it works, because not starting to smoke is so much easier than
> trying to quit.
> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and
> the chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the
> number of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3
> cigarettes in one day, and that was because I had to completely
> reassemble my old Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs,
> front end, swing arm and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything
> back together).
>
> Cosmin
>
>
> Philip wrote:
>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>> www.ivanhoe.com
>> September 1, 2004
>>
>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable
>> educational message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>
>> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the
>> most dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study,
>> levels indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine
>> models and lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter
>> emissions from car exhausts.
>>
>> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain
>> town where there are very low levels of particulate matter air
>> pollution. A turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in
>> the garage with the doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for
>> four hours. The car was fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter
>> cigarettes were also lit up sequentially, and left smoldering for
>> another 30 minutes. Results of the experiment show the diesel engine
>> exhaust doubled the
>> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>
>> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels
>> 15-times higher than those measured outdoors.
>>
>> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts
>> by e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>
>> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>
>> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221




01-05-2005 02:18 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 
In article <3KVCd.1321$%e1.888@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>
> Ivanhoe Newswire
> www.ivanhoe.com
> September 1, 2004
>
> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
> than diesel car exhaust.
>
> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>
> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
> exhausts.
>
> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
> there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
> diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
> closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
> with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>
> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>
> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
> higher than those measured outdoors.
>
> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>
> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>
> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221




"The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town"

Another unbiased report brought to you by Tobacco Control.

Now I got a tell ya., I don't smoke, but these so called reports brought
to you by Tobacco Control and a bunch more are so obvious that it makes
one laugh.
--


01-05-2005 02:18 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 
In article <3KVCd.1321$%e1.888@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>
> Ivanhoe Newswire
> www.ivanhoe.com
> September 1, 2004
>
> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
> than diesel car exhaust.
>
> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>
> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
> exhausts.
>
> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
> there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
> diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
> closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
> with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>
> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>
> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
> higher than those measured outdoors.
>
> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>
> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>
> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221




"The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town"

Another unbiased report brought to you by Tobacco Control.

Now I got a tell ya., I don't smoke, but these so called reports brought
to you by Tobacco Control and a bunch more are so obvious that it makes
one laugh.
--


Ken Weitzel 01-05-2005 02:58 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 


deil@spzm.com wrote:
> In article <3KVCd.1321$%e1.888@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>September 1, 2004
>>
>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
>>than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>>Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>>message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>
>>Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>>dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>>indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>>lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
>>exhausts.
>>
>>The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
>>there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
>>diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
>>closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
>>with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>>sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>
>>Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>>particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>
>>The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>>higher than those measured outdoors.
>>
>>This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>>e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>
>>http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>
>>SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221

>
>
>
>
> "The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town"
>
> Another unbiased report brought to you by Tobacco Control.
>
> Now I got a tell ya., I don't smoke, but these so called reports brought
> to you by Tobacco Control and a bunch more are so obvious that it makes
> one laugh.



Coming up next...

Terrorism, wars, whacko jacko, the Bush'er, the folks
at Enron, and Martha Stewart... ALL caused by tobacco.


Ken Weitzel 01-05-2005 02:58 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 


deil@spzm.com wrote:
> In article <3KVCd.1321$%e1.888@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>September 1, 2004
>>
>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times greater
>>than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>>Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>>message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>
>>Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>>dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>>indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>>lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from car
>>exhausts.
>>
>>The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town where
>>there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A turbo
>>diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the doors
>>closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fueled
>>with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>>sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>
>>Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>>particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>
>>The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>>higher than those measured outdoors.
>>
>>This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>>e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>
>>http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>
>>SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221

>
>
>
>
> "The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town"
>
> Another unbiased report brought to you by Tobacco Control.
>
> Now I got a tell ya., I don't smoke, but these so called reports brought
> to you by Tobacco Control and a bunch more are so obvious that it makes
> one laugh.



Coming up next...

Terrorism, wars, whacko jacko, the Bush'er, the folks
at Enron, and Martha Stewart... ALL caused by tobacco.


WickeddollŽ 01-05-2005 06:25 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:nFXCd.717302$%k.50005@pd7tw2no...
>
>
> deil@spzm.com wrote:
>> In article <3KVCd.1321$%e1.888@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>
>>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>>September 1, 2004
>>>
>>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>>greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>>
>>>Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>>>message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>>
>>>Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>>>dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>>>indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>>>lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from
>>>car exhausts.
>>>
>>>The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town
>>>where there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A
>>>turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the
>>>doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was
>>>fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>>>sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>>
>>>Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>>>particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>>
>>>The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>>>higher than those measured outdoors.
>>>
>>>This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>>>e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>>
>>>http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>>
>>>SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town"
>>
>> Another unbiased report brought to you by Tobacco Control.
>>
>> Now I got a tell ya., I don't smoke, but these so called reports brought
>> to you by Tobacco Control and a bunch more are so obvious that it makes
>> one laugh.

>
>
> Coming up next...
>
> Terrorism, wars, whacko jacko, the Bush'er, the folks
> at Enron, and Martha Stewart... ALL caused by tobacco.
>


ROFL!

Natalie, never-a-smoker



WickeddollŽ 01-05-2005 06:25 PM

Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:nFXCd.717302$%k.50005@pd7tw2no...
>
>
> deil@spzm.com wrote:
>> In article <3KVCd.1321$%e1.888@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>,
>> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>
>>>Ivanhoe Newswire
>>>www.ivanhoe.com
>>>September 1, 2004
>>>
>>>Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>>greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>>
>>>Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>>>message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>>
>>>Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>>>dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>>>indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>>>lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from
>>>car exhausts.
>>>
>>>The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town
>>>where there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A
>>>turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the
>>>doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was
>>>fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>>>sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>>
>>>Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>>>particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>>
>>>The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>>>higher than those measured outdoors.
>>>
>>>This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>>>e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>>
>>>http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>>
>>>SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town"
>>
>> Another unbiased report brought to you by Tobacco Control.
>>
>> Now I got a tell ya., I don't smoke, but these so called reports brought
>> to you by Tobacco Control and a bunch more are so obvious that it makes
>> one laugh.

>
>
> Coming up next...
>
> Terrorism, wars, whacko jacko, the Bush'er, the folks
> at Enron, and Martha Stewart... ALL caused by tobacco.
>


ROFL!

Natalie, never-a-smoker



WickeddollŽ 01-05-2005 06:27 PM

OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>
> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>
> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>
> Cosmin


I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
smoking is - wow!

Natalie
>
>
> Philip wrote:
>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>> www.ivanhoe.com
>> September 1, 2004
>>
>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>
>> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from
>> car exhausts.
>>
>> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town
>> where there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A
>> turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the
>> doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was
>> fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>
>> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>
>> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>> higher than those measured outdoors.
>>
>> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>
>> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>
>> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>>



WickeddollŽ 01-05-2005 06:27 PM

OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>
> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>
> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>
> Cosmin


I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
smoking is - wow!

Natalie
>
>
> Philip wrote:
>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>
>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>> www.ivanhoe.com
>> September 1, 2004
>>
>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>
>> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>
>> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from
>> car exhausts.
>>
>> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town
>> where there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A
>> turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the
>> doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was
>> fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>
>> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>
>> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>> higher than those measured outdoors.
>>
>> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>
>> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>
>> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>>



newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com 01-05-2005 07:37 PM

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:27:57 -0500, "WickeddollŽ"
<wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>
>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>
>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>
>> Cosmin

>
>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
>smoking is - wow!
>
>Natalie


Sorry to hear that. I tried filters, patches, training programs, but
none worked for me. One day, it came down to that I couldn't afford
college for my wife, and my 3 pack/day habit. I said I had to quit
and I did. I promised myself I would start back up when I could
afford it, but that was 10+ years ago. Now with a mortgage and a
child, I"m guessing I'll have to remain smoke-free, but I do enjoy the
smell now and then.

Everyone who says they can't just doesn't want to.

imho,

tom @ www.ChopURL.com





>>
>>
>> Philip wrote:
>>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>
>>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>>> www.ivanhoe.com
>>> September 1, 2004
>>>
>>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>>
>>> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>>> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>>
>>> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>>> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>>> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>>> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from
>>> car exhausts.
>>>
>>> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town
>>> where there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A
>>> turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the
>>> doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was
>>> fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>>> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>>
>>> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>>> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>>
>>> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>>> higher than those measured outdoors.
>>>
>>> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>>> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>>
>>> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>>
>>> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>>>



newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com 01-05-2005 07:37 PM

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:27:57 -0500, "WickeddollŽ"
<wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com...
>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P
>>
>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have
>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving
>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking,
>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other influences.
>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, because
>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit.
>>
>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and the
>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number
>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 cigarettes
>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old
>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm
>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together).
>>
>> Cosmin

>
>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was
>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that
>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and
>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop
>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette
>smoking is - wow!
>
>Natalie


Sorry to hear that. I tried filters, patches, training programs, but
none worked for me. One day, it came down to that I couldn't afford
college for my wife, and my 3 pack/day habit. I said I had to quit
and I did. I promised myself I would start back up when I could
afford it, but that was 10+ years ago. Now with a mortgage and a
child, I"m guessing I'll have to remain smoke-free, but I do enjoy the
smell now and then.

Everyone who says they can't just doesn't want to.

imho,

tom @ www.ChopURL.com





>>
>>
>> Philip wrote:
>>> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars
>>>
>>> Ivanhoe Newswire
>>> www.ivanhoe.com
>>> September 1, 2004
>>>
>>> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times
>>> greater than diesel car exhaust.
>>>
>>> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable educational
>>> message against tobacco use for adolescents.
>>>
>>> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the most
>>> dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, levels
>>> indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine models and
>>> lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter emissions from
>>> car exhausts.
>>>
>>> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain town
>>> where there are very low levels of particulate matter air pollution. A
>>> turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in the garage with the
>>> doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for four hours. The car was
>>> fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter cigarettes were also lit up
>>> sequentially, and left smoldering for another 30 minutes.
>>>
>>> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the
>>> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak.
>>>
>>> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15-times
>>> higher than those measured outdoors.
>>>
>>> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts by
>>> e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to:
>>>
>>> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/.
>>>
>>> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221
>>>




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