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Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
<newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com> wrote in message news:nt1pt0pjqqaa7vr0g2qhavb93968gsp5se@4ax.com... > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:27:57 -0500, "WickeddollŽ" > <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message >>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com... >>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P >>> >>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have >>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving >>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking, >>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other >>> influences. >>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, >>> because >>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit. >>> >>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and >>> the >>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number >>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 >>> cigarettes >>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old >>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm >>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together). >>> >>> Cosmin >> >>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was >>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that >>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and >>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop >>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette >>smoking is - wow! >> >>Natalie > > Sorry to hear that. I tried filters, patches, training programs, but > none worked for me. One day, it came down to that I couldn't afford > college for my wife, and my 3 pack/day habit. I said I had to quit > and I did. I promised myself I would start back up when I could > afford it, but that was 10+ years ago. Now with a mortgage and a > child, I"m guessing I'll have to remain smoke-free, but I do enjoy the > smell now and then. > > Everyone who says they can't just doesn't want to. > > imho, > > tom @ www.ChopURL.com I think it's a lot like other addictions, such as food - some people haven't been able to lose weight by any methods, which is tougher because you don't need cigarettes to survive (just the opposite, of course), but you need food to live. I saw a lady on a documentary who had dropped well over 200 pounds. She began to go insane; not from temptation, but because her body reacted as though it were starving! She became psychotic and very ill. She ended up gaining the weight back, and in doing so, regained her sanity. Isn't that nuts?! For smokers, they see others lighting up, which is even more powerful than an obese person walking by a restaurant and resisting the temptation to chow down. Personally, I usually was slightly overweight, but not morbidly so. Then my blood pressure went up, which woke me up to the reality that my heart was being affected. I decided I'd rather not be a sick old lady some day (I'm now 46), so I had to drop the weight and get in shape. I exercise no less than 30 minutes every single day, and have never regretted it. By the way, the bargain that you made for your body should be reneged. Please believe me when I say you'll be so much more healthy without cigarettes. What people don't realize is that while lung cancer is relatively rare (I've only seen a handful of cases in 28 years), smoking does a lot of damage in other ways, such as COPD (emphysema - folks on home oxygen because their lungs have shriveled and hardened to the point of no elasticity), not to mention heart attacks and strokes. Plus they're very expensive! My mother-in-law, a Nazi death camp survivor smokes (I can't say I blame her after what she went through), and while we lived in New Hampshire (She lives in Massachusetts) she'd ask if I'd buy her cigarettes either in NH (They're quite a bit cheaper there) or at Westover AFB in Chicopee, MA. I told her that while I know she won't stop smoking because I refuse to buy them for her, I could not in good conscience do that for her, because that would be like handing a syringe to a heroin addict. I can't be a party to her slow suicide. My husband used to get them for her, and I didn't chastise him for it, because I knew he just wanted to do what he can to help his mom be content. I just couldn't do it myself, and she (thankfully) understands that. But she's so awesome anyway, she'd naturally not cop an attitude. The woman's incredible, and I wish she could stop so we could have her on this planet longer. Natalie, former food junkie - or is that junk-food junkie? ;-) |
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<newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com> wrote in message news:nt1pt0pjqqaa7vr0g2qhavb93968gsp5se@4ax.com... > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:27:57 -0500, "WickeddollŽ" > <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message >>news:a8ednSr7ioherUHcRVn-oQ@rogers.com... >>> Let me light up a cigarette before I read the article. :P >>> >>> The sad part is that smokers (myself included) KNOW that cigarettes have >>> very dire consequences on ones health. Creating yet another study proving >>> that won't help. Educating adolescents is the only solution to smoking, >>> because they are the most vulnerable to peer pressure and other >>> influences. >>> That seems to be the reason behind this study, and I hope it works, >>> because >>> not starting to smoke is so much easier than trying to quit. >>> >>> I think I tried 10 times to quit, including cold turkey, the patch and >>> the >>> chewing gum and nothing worked. The only thing I found reduced the number >>> of cigarettes I smoked was keeping myself busy. My record was 3 >>> cigarettes >>> in one day, and that was because I had to completely reassemble my old >>> Yamaha RZ350 before a trip (I had the engine, carbs, front end, swing arm >>> and brakes rebuilt, and needed to put everything back together). >>> >>> Cosmin >> >>I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was >>until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that >>their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and >>everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop >>smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette >>smoking is - wow! >> >>Natalie > > Sorry to hear that. I tried filters, patches, training programs, but > none worked for me. One day, it came down to that I couldn't afford > college for my wife, and my 3 pack/day habit. I said I had to quit > and I did. I promised myself I would start back up when I could > afford it, but that was 10+ years ago. Now with a mortgage and a > child, I"m guessing I'll have to remain smoke-free, but I do enjoy the > smell now and then. > > Everyone who says they can't just doesn't want to. > > imho, > > tom @ www.ChopURL.com I think it's a lot like other addictions, such as food - some people haven't been able to lose weight by any methods, which is tougher because you don't need cigarettes to survive (just the opposite, of course), but you need food to live. I saw a lady on a documentary who had dropped well over 200 pounds. She began to go insane; not from temptation, but because her body reacted as though it were starving! She became psychotic and very ill. She ended up gaining the weight back, and in doing so, regained her sanity. Isn't that nuts?! For smokers, they see others lighting up, which is even more powerful than an obese person walking by a restaurant and resisting the temptation to chow down. Personally, I usually was slightly overweight, but not morbidly so. Then my blood pressure went up, which woke me up to the reality that my heart was being affected. I decided I'd rather not be a sick old lady some day (I'm now 46), so I had to drop the weight and get in shape. I exercise no less than 30 minutes every single day, and have never regretted it. By the way, the bargain that you made for your body should be reneged. Please believe me when I say you'll be so much more healthy without cigarettes. What people don't realize is that while lung cancer is relatively rare (I've only seen a handful of cases in 28 years), smoking does a lot of damage in other ways, such as COPD (emphysema - folks on home oxygen because their lungs have shriveled and hardened to the point of no elasticity), not to mention heart attacks and strokes. Plus they're very expensive! My mother-in-law, a Nazi death camp survivor smokes (I can't say I blame her after what she went through), and while we lived in New Hampshire (She lives in Massachusetts) she'd ask if I'd buy her cigarettes either in NH (They're quite a bit cheaper there) or at Westover AFB in Chicopee, MA. I told her that while I know she won't stop smoking because I refuse to buy them for her, I could not in good conscience do that for her, because that would be like handing a syringe to a heroin addict. I can't be a party to her slow suicide. My husband used to get them for her, and I didn't chastise him for it, because I knew he just wanted to do what he can to help his mom be content. I just couldn't do it myself, and she (thankfully) understands that. But she's so awesome anyway, she'd naturally not cop an attitude. The woman's incredible, and I wish she could stop so we could have her on this planet longer. Natalie, former food junkie - or is that junk-food junkie? ;-) |
Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
In article <343bfsF44oeqcU1@individual.net>,
"WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was > until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that > their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and > everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop > smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette > smoking is - wow! > > Natalie I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems to me they are both bad for health. I had a chance to sit in a 04 Camry today. It's a really nice automobile. -- |
Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
In article <343bfsF44oeqcU1@individual.net>,
"WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was > until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that > their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and > everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop > smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette > smoking is - wow! > > Natalie I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems to me they are both bad for health. I had a chance to sit in a 04 Camry today. It's a really nice automobile. -- |
Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:04:10 -0600, <deil@spzm.com> wrote:
> I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, >while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems >to me they are both bad for health. Yeah, but when you're as desperate as my friend Mick - who has been known to snort a line of salt from the edge of the bar - then a joint is not such a bad thing. -- Dan Drake |
Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:04:10 -0600, <deil@spzm.com> wrote:
> I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, >while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems >to me they are both bad for health. Yeah, but when you're as desperate as my friend Mick - who has been known to snort a line of salt from the edge of the bar - then a joint is not such a bad thing. -- Dan Drake |
Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
<deil@spzm.com> wrote in message news:deil-CE6A53.19041005012005@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com... > In article <343bfsF44oeqcU1@individual.net>, > "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was >> until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that >> their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and >> everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop >> smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette >> smoking is - wow! >> >> Natalie > > I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, > while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems > to me they are both bad for health. > They are, but like so many things, money is a factor. Most people can't or wouldn't grow their own tobacco, but they'd certainly grow their own weed. The government would have a very hard time taxing and overseeing such a plant. > I had a chance to sit in a 04 Camry today. It's a really nice > automobile. > -- > How dare you talk about cars! What do you think these are, car newsgroups?! Oh yeah. ;-) Natalie |
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<deil@spzm.com> wrote in message news:deil-CE6A53.19041005012005@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com... > In article <343bfsF44oeqcU1@individual.net>, > "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> I used to think smokers who couldn't quit were just copping out. That was >> until I worked in an OB/Gyn clinic! Those women would be terrified that >> their babies would be affected, but were able to eat right, exercise, and >> everything we told them they needed to do, but often could *not* stop >> smoking. It was then that I realized what a powerful addiction cigarette >> smoking is - wow! >> >> Natalie > > I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, > while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems > to me they are both bad for health. > They are, but like so many things, money is a factor. Most people can't or wouldn't grow their own tobacco, but they'd certainly grow their own weed. The government would have a very hard time taxing and overseeing such a plant. > I had a chance to sit in a 04 Camry today. It's a really nice > automobile. > -- > How dare you talk about cars! What do you think these are, car newsgroups?! Oh yeah. ;-) Natalie |
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"Dan Drake" <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in message news:lo3pt0lf4m0kmdnpgtfpdokpnnkd3ep4m5@4ax.com... > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:04:10 -0600, <deil@spzm.com> wrote: > >> I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, >>while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems >>to me they are both bad for health. > > Yeah, but when you're as desperate as my friend Mick - who has been > known to snort a line of salt from the edge of the bar - then a joint > is not such a bad thing. > -- > Dan Drake Gawd, that reminds me of that scene from Cheech and Chong's 'Up In Smoke' when that whacked-out chick snorted cleaning powder (I think it was Ajax cleanser). Natalie |
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"Dan Drake" <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> wrote in message news:lo3pt0lf4m0kmdnpgtfpdokpnnkd3ep4m5@4ax.com... > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:04:10 -0600, <deil@spzm.com> wrote: > >> I often wonder why there is even a mention of making marijuana legal, >>while in the same breath they try to eliminate cigarette smoking. Seems >>to me they are both bad for health. > > Yeah, but when you're as desperate as my friend Mick - who has been > known to snort a line of salt from the edge of the bar - then a joint > is not such a bad thing. > -- > Dan Drake Gawd, that reminds me of that scene from Cheech and Chong's 'Up In Smoke' when that whacked-out chick snorted cleaning powder (I think it was Ajax cleanser). Natalie |
Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
In article <343ge2F44ep8mU1@individual.net>,
"WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I think it's a lot like other addictions, such as food - some people haven't > been able to lose weight by any methods, which is tougher because you don't > need cigarettes to survive (just the opposite, of course), but you need food > to live. I saw a lady on a documentary who had dropped well over 200 pounds. > She began to go insane; not from temptation, but because her body reacted as > though it were starving! She became psychotic and very ill. She ended up > gaining the weight back, and in doing so, regained her sanity. Isn't that > nuts?! For smokers, they see others lighting up, which is even more powerful > than an obese person walking by a restaurant and resisting the temptation to > chow down. Personally, I usually was slightly overweight, but not morbidly > so. Then my blood pressure went up, which woke me up to the reality that my > heart was being affected. I decided I'd rather not be a sick old lady some > day (I'm now 46), so I had to drop the weight and get in shape. I exercise > no less than 30 minutes every single day, and have never regretted it. On cold days I walk at our mall. I spoke with a lady one morning who has diabetes. She told me that she started a vigorous walking regime some time ago and after a while she was able to shed ALL of her medications. One more reason for exercise. > > By the way, the bargain that you made for your body should be reneged. > Please believe me when I say you'll be so much more healthy without > cigarettes. What people don't realize is that while lung cancer is > relatively rare (I've only seen a handful of cases in 28 years), smoking does > a lot of damage in other ways, such as COPD (emphysema - folks on home oxygen > because their lungs have shriveled and hardened to the point of no > elasticity), not to mention heart attacks and strokes. Plus they're very > expensive! My mother-in-law, a Nazi death camp survivor smokes (I can't say > I blame her after what she went through), and while we lived in New Hampshire > (She lives in Massachusetts) she'd ask if I'd buy her cigarettes either in NH > (They're quite a bit cheaper there) or at Westover AFB in Chicopee, MA. I > told her that while I know she won't stop smoking because I refuse to buy > them for her, I could not in good conscience do that for her, because that > would be like handing a syringe to a heroin addict. I can't be a party to > her slow suicide. My husband used to get them for her, and I didn't chastise > him for it, because I knew he just wanted to do what he can to help his mom > be content. I just couldn't do it myself, and she (thankfully) understands > that. But she's so awesome anyway, she'd naturally not cop an attitude. The > woman's incredible, and I wish she could stop so we could have her on this > planet longer. > > Natalie, former food junkie - or is that junk-food junkie? ;-) -- |
Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
In article <343ge2F44ep8mU1@individual.net>,
"WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I think it's a lot like other addictions, such as food - some people haven't > been able to lose weight by any methods, which is tougher because you don't > need cigarettes to survive (just the opposite, of course), but you need food > to live. I saw a lady on a documentary who had dropped well over 200 pounds. > She began to go insane; not from temptation, but because her body reacted as > though it were starving! She became psychotic and very ill. She ended up > gaining the weight back, and in doing so, regained her sanity. Isn't that > nuts?! For smokers, they see others lighting up, which is even more powerful > than an obese person walking by a restaurant and resisting the temptation to > chow down. Personally, I usually was slightly overweight, but not morbidly > so. Then my blood pressure went up, which woke me up to the reality that my > heart was being affected. I decided I'd rather not be a sick old lady some > day (I'm now 46), so I had to drop the weight and get in shape. I exercise > no less than 30 minutes every single day, and have never regretted it. On cold days I walk at our mall. I spoke with a lady one morning who has diabetes. She told me that she started a vigorous walking regime some time ago and after a while she was able to shed ALL of her medications. One more reason for exercise. > > By the way, the bargain that you made for your body should be reneged. > Please believe me when I say you'll be so much more healthy without > cigarettes. What people don't realize is that while lung cancer is > relatively rare (I've only seen a handful of cases in 28 years), smoking does > a lot of damage in other ways, such as COPD (emphysema - folks on home oxygen > because their lungs have shriveled and hardened to the point of no > elasticity), not to mention heart attacks and strokes. Plus they're very > expensive! My mother-in-law, a Nazi death camp survivor smokes (I can't say > I blame her after what she went through), and while we lived in New Hampshire > (She lives in Massachusetts) she'd ask if I'd buy her cigarettes either in NH > (They're quite a bit cheaper there) or at Westover AFB in Chicopee, MA. I > told her that while I know she won't stop smoking because I refuse to buy > them for her, I could not in good conscience do that for her, because that > would be like handing a syringe to a heroin addict. I can't be a party to > her slow suicide. My husband used to get them for her, and I didn't chastise > him for it, because I knew he just wanted to do what he can to help his mom > be content. I just couldn't do it myself, and she (thankfully) understands > that. But she's so awesome anyway, she'd naturally not cop an attitude. The > woman's incredible, and I wish she could stop so we could have her on this > planet longer. > > Natalie, former food junkie - or is that junk-food junkie? ;-) -- |
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<deil@spzm.com> wrote in message news:deil-461CCE.20085305012005@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com... > In article <343ge2F44ep8mU1@individual.net>, > "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> I think it's a lot like other addictions, such as food - some people >> haven't >> been able to lose weight by any methods, which is tougher because you >> don't >> need cigarettes to survive (just the opposite, of course), but you need >> food >> to live. I saw a lady on a documentary who had dropped well over 200 >> pounds. >> She began to go insane; not from temptation, but because her body reacted >> as >> though it were starving! She became psychotic and very ill. She ended up >> gaining the weight back, and in doing so, regained her sanity. Isn't that >> nuts?! For smokers, they see others lighting up, which is even more >> powerful >> than an obese person walking by a restaurant and resisting the temptation >> to >> chow down. Personally, I usually was slightly overweight, but not >> morbidly >> so. Then my blood pressure went up, which woke me up to the reality that >> my >> heart was being affected. I decided I'd rather not be a sick old lady >> some >> day (I'm now 46), so I had to drop the weight and get in shape. I >> exercise >> no less than 30 minutes every single day, and have never regretted it. > > On cold days I walk at our mall. I spoke with a lady one morning who > has diabetes. She told me that she started a vigorous walking regime > some time ago and after a while she was able to shed ALL of her > medications. One more reason for exercise. > >> Amen! Natalie |
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<deil@spzm.com> wrote in message news:deil-461CCE.20085305012005@hermes-ge0.rdc-kc.rr.com... > In article <343ge2F44ep8mU1@individual.net>, > "WickeddollŽ" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> I think it's a lot like other addictions, such as food - some people >> haven't >> been able to lose weight by any methods, which is tougher because you >> don't >> need cigarettes to survive (just the opposite, of course), but you need >> food >> to live. I saw a lady on a documentary who had dropped well over 200 >> pounds. >> She began to go insane; not from temptation, but because her body reacted >> as >> though it were starving! She became psychotic and very ill. She ended up >> gaining the weight back, and in doing so, regained her sanity. Isn't that >> nuts?! For smokers, they see others lighting up, which is even more >> powerful >> than an obese person walking by a restaurant and resisting the temptation >> to >> chow down. Personally, I usually was slightly overweight, but not >> morbidly >> so. Then my blood pressure went up, which woke me up to the reality that >> my >> heart was being affected. I decided I'd rather not be a sick old lady >> some >> day (I'm now 46), so I had to drop the weight and get in shape. I >> exercise >> no less than 30 minutes every single day, and have never regretted it. > > On cold days I walk at our mall. I spoke with a lady one morning who > has diabetes. She told me that she started a vigorous walking regime > some time ago and after a while she was able to shed ALL of her > medications. One more reason for exercise. > >> Amen! Natalie |
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deil@spzm.com wrote:
> In article <3KVCd.1321$%e1.888@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.n et>, > "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Cigarettes Worse for Air Than Cars >> >> Ivanhoe Newswire >> www.ivanhoe.com >> September 1, 2004 >> >> Holy smoke! The air pollution emitted by cigarettes may be 10-times >> greater than diesel car exhaust. >> >> Investigators hope the negative comparison can be a valuable >> educational message against tobacco use for adolescents. >> >> Environmental tobacco smoke produces fine particulate matter, the >> most dangerous element of air pollution. According to the new study, >> levels indoors can far exceed those outdoors because new engine >> models and lead-free fuels have cut the levels of particulate matter >> emissions from car exhausts. >> >> The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain >> town where there are very low levels of particulate matter air >> pollution. A turbo diesel engine was left idling for 30 minutes in >> the garage with the doors closed. Then, the doors were left open for >> four hours. The car was fueled with low sulphur fuel. Three filter >> cigarettes were also lit up sequentially, and left smoldering for >> another 30 minutes. >> >> Results of the experiment show the diesel engine exhaust doubled the >> particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak. >> >> The environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels >> 15-times higher than those measured outdoors. >> >> This article was reported by Ivanhoe.com, who offers Medical Alerts >> by e-mail every day of the week. To subscribe, go to: >> >> http://www.ivanhoe.com/newsalert/. >> >> SOURCE: Tobacco Control, 2004;13:219-221 > > > > "The study was conducted in a garage in a small, Italian mountain > town" > > Another unbiased report brought to you by Tobacco Control. > > Now I got a tell ya., I don't smoke, but these so called reports > brought to you by Tobacco Control and a bunch more are so > obvious that it makes one laugh. The 'report' makes a great spoon to stir the soup. Some tasted it! LOL -- ~Philip. |
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