Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:a5Gdnc2oXe8UjkLcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> "Bradburn Fentress" <pleased@n't.spam> wrote in message
> news:pkEDd.48$Y86.2831@news.uswest.net...
>> Rolling eyes not withstanding, there are 10 or 11 groups this is being
>> posted to so I don't which one he is actually concerned with, but if the
>> charter for the group in question exists (and for many groups they don't)
>> and the charter dictates that OT posts are not allowed, then one should
>> desist. After all newgroups basically work on the honor system and that is
>> the only thing that keeps unmoderated groups effective.
>>
>> I suggest he post the charter here for you to see, and then you can strike
>> that group from the cross-posting list. If he can't, then it would appear
>> you haven't done anything remotely wrong.
>>
> Bradburn, you are such a wuss! Take your meds now honey!

And the true troll has shown himself to be such. Hey, I know cross-posting
is a no-no, so I'm with him there, but OT posts are not a part of any of
these NGs he's ALSO cross-posting on. I'll concede to that, and will only
post to the Toyota NG after this reply (It's the only car one I'm subscribed
to anyway).

Natalie, plonking yet another twerp and moving on

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:a5Gdnc2oXe8UjkLcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> "Bradburn Fentress" <pleased@n't.spam> wrote in message
> news:pkEDd.48$Y86.2831@news.uswest.net...
>> Rolling eyes not withstanding, there are 10 or 11 groups this is being
>> posted to so I don't which one he is actually concerned with, but if the
>> charter for the group in question exists (and for many groups they don't)
>> and the charter dictates that OT posts are not allowed, then one should
>> desist. After all newgroups basically work on the honor system and that is
>> the only thing that keeps unmoderated groups effective.
>>
>> I suggest he post the charter here for you to see, and then you can strike
>> that group from the cross-posting list. If he can't, then it would appear
>> you haven't done anything remotely wrong.
>>
> Bradburn, you are such a wuss! Take your meds now honey!

And the true troll has shown himself to be such. Hey, I know cross-posting
is a no-no, so I'm with him there, but OT posts are not a part of any of
these NGs he's ALSO cross-posting on. I'll concede to that, and will only
post to the Toyota NG after this reply (It's the only car one I'm subscribed
to anyway).

Natalie, plonking yet another twerp and moving on

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:JKidnSTc5s5DjULcRVn-gg@rogers.com...
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:348hi4F48fivkU1@individual.net...
> >
> > "Bradburn Fentress" <pleased@n't.spam> wrote in message
> > news:1eEDd.47$Y86.2766@news.uswest.net...
> >>
> >> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:348gprF48aar6U1@individual.net...
> >>
> >>> Well, I tried to reason, but you'd rather take shots at me
> >>
> >> But you are trying to reason with a mind that chose to add an
additional
> >> 204
> >> off topic words to this thread in an effort to defend the notion of
> >> staying
> >> on topic :^)
> >>
> >> You know...."do as I say, not as I do".
> >>
> >>
> > LOL yup
> >
> > Natalie
>
> Nat, don't get too excited that Bradburn agreed with you. His meds haven't
> kicked in yet!
>

He's not the only one who noticed, just the only one who commented.

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:JKidnSTc5s5DjULcRVn-gg@rogers.com...
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:348hi4F48fivkU1@individual.net...
> >
> > "Bradburn Fentress" <pleased@n't.spam> wrote in message
> > news:1eEDd.47$Y86.2766@news.uswest.net...
> >>
> >> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:348gprF48aar6U1@individual.net...
> >>
> >>> Well, I tried to reason, but you'd rather take shots at me
> >>
> >> But you are trying to reason with a mind that chose to add an
additional
> >> 204
> >> off topic words to this thread in an effort to defend the notion of
> >> staying
> >> on topic :^)
> >>
> >> You know...."do as I say, not as I do".
> >>
> >>
> > LOL yup
> >
> > Natalie
>
> Nat, don't get too excited that Bradburn agreed with you. His meds haven't
> kicked in yet!
>

He's not the only one who noticed, just the only one who commented.

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:5c6dndwaAfG_jULcRVn-jQ@rogers.com...
> "Hagrinas O.T. Mivali" <remove.to.reply@sbcglobal.net> continued spewing
OT
> diatribe when she/he wrote in message
> news:9qWdnVX5U_Bdk0LcRVn-qA@giganews.com...
> >
> > "StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
> > news:FvqdnemSu6ellkLcRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
> >> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:348bujF1t8rlgU1@individual.net...
> >> > Killfile those of us you find offensive, because I can tell you
without
> >> > reservation, that trying to get people to stop discussing a subject,
no
> >> > matter how inappropriate one feels the topic is, will simply not
work.
> >> >
> >> > For instance, when some moron posts spoilers in their subject line
> >> > regarding a movie or show I haven't watched yet, I killfile them
> >> > without
> >> > making a big fuss. All that happens when you try to 'netcop' is a
> >> > flame
> >> > war. It's not worth it.
> >> >
> >> > Natalie
> >>
> >> Sadly, there is no reasoning with the likes of you and your ilk. If you
> >> think your meandering diatribe is good for us, then you impose yourself
> > upon
> >> us. If you have to label something as "OT", has it ever occurred to
you
> >> that perhaps you should not post it and impose your compulsive
obsessive
> >> behaviour upon us? No, of course not. Such are the inane ramblings and
> >> and
> >> selfish motives of your type. "Why should I stop posting off-topic when
I
> >> can force all the legitimate users of these automotive NewsGroups, to
> > filter
> >> the topic and killfile all who respond?" I find your demeanor quite
> > selfish
> >> and your rationale more than just a bit absurd. ;-) Natalie, if I may
> > offer
> >> some gentle advice, take a walk outside, take a deep breath of fresh
air,
> >> give your head a shake and then proceed to get a life and move your
> > soapbox
> >> down the street! If we feel the need to be saved from ourselves, I'm
sure
> >> that we will be able to find you or someone just like you. Thanks for
> > caring
> >> about our well being. Now do us all a favor and find a new pulpit. Your
> >> welcome is worn out here.
> >>
> >
> > That does not strike me as gentle advice, any more on topic than the
rest
> > of
> > the thread, or anything but a personal attack, but as long as we are
> > giving
> > advice, the best way to make a thread go away is to ignore it.
> >
> Lest there be any doubt whatsoever, that last post was directed at you as
> well! ;-) Don't let the screen door hit your butt as you leave the room!

I'm not going anywhere. You are the only one participating in this group
(where I'm reading it) who has posted nothing but off topic posts. You may
be reading it in a different group, but you are cross posting it all over
the place. I have no doubt that in most of the groups you are posting to,
you never posted anything on topic at all.

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:5c6dndwaAfG_jULcRVn-jQ@rogers.com...
> "Hagrinas O.T. Mivali" <remove.to.reply@sbcglobal.net> continued spewing
OT
> diatribe when she/he wrote in message
> news:9qWdnVX5U_Bdk0LcRVn-qA@giganews.com...
> >
> > "StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
> > news:FvqdnemSu6ellkLcRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
> >> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:348bujF1t8rlgU1@individual.net...
> >> > Killfile those of us you find offensive, because I can tell you
without
> >> > reservation, that trying to get people to stop discussing a subject,
no
> >> > matter how inappropriate one feels the topic is, will simply not
work.
> >> >
> >> > For instance, when some moron posts spoilers in their subject line
> >> > regarding a movie or show I haven't watched yet, I killfile them
> >> > without
> >> > making a big fuss. All that happens when you try to 'netcop' is a
> >> > flame
> >> > war. It's not worth it.
> >> >
> >> > Natalie
> >>
> >> Sadly, there is no reasoning with the likes of you and your ilk. If you
> >> think your meandering diatribe is good for us, then you impose yourself
> > upon
> >> us. If you have to label something as "OT", has it ever occurred to
you
> >> that perhaps you should not post it and impose your compulsive
obsessive
> >> behaviour upon us? No, of course not. Such are the inane ramblings and
> >> and
> >> selfish motives of your type. "Why should I stop posting off-topic when
I
> >> can force all the legitimate users of these automotive NewsGroups, to
> > filter
> >> the topic and killfile all who respond?" I find your demeanor quite
> > selfish
> >> and your rationale more than just a bit absurd. ;-) Natalie, if I may
> > offer
> >> some gentle advice, take a walk outside, take a deep breath of fresh
air,
> >> give your head a shake and then proceed to get a life and move your
> > soapbox
> >> down the street! If we feel the need to be saved from ourselves, I'm
sure
> >> that we will be able to find you or someone just like you. Thanks for
> > caring
> >> about our well being. Now do us all a favor and find a new pulpit. Your
> >> welcome is worn out here.
> >>
> >
> > That does not strike me as gentle advice, any more on topic than the
rest
> > of
> > the thread, or anything but a personal attack, but as long as we are
> > giving
> > advice, the best way to make a thread go away is to ignore it.
> >
> Lest there be any doubt whatsoever, that last post was directed at you as
> well! ;-) Don't let the screen door hit your butt as you leave the room!

I'm not going anywhere. You are the only one participating in this group
(where I'm reading it) who has posted nothing but off topic posts. You may
be reading it in a different group, but you are cross posting it all over
the place. I have no doubt that in most of the groups you are posting to,
you never posted anything on topic at all.

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:348hhgF49dg2lU1@individual.net...
>
> "Hagrinas Mivali" <remove.to.reply@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:9qWdnVX5U_Bdk0LcRVn-qA@giganews.com...
> >
> > "StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
> > news:FvqdnemSu6ellkLcRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
> >> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:348bujF1t8rlgU1@individual.net...
> >> > Killfile those of us you find offensive, because I can tell you
without
> >> > reservation, that trying to get people to stop discussing a subject,
no
> >> > matter how inappropriate one feels the topic is, will simply not
work.
> >> >
> >> > For instance, when some moron posts spoilers in their subject line
> >> > regarding a movie or show I haven't watched yet, I killfile them
without
> >> > making a big fuss. All that happens when you try to 'netcop' is a
flame
> >> > war. It's not worth it.
> >> >
> >> > Natalie
> >>
> >> Sadly, there is no reasoning with the likes of you and your ilk. If you
> >> think your meandering diatribe is good for us, then you impose yourself
> > upon
> >> us. If you have to label something as "OT", has it ever occurred to
you
> >> that perhaps you should not post it and impose your compulsive
obsessive
> >> behaviour upon us? No, of course not. Such are the inane ramblings and
and
> >> selfish motives of your type. "Why should I stop posting off-topic when
I
> >> can force all the legitimate users of these automotive NewsGroups, to
> > filter
> >> the topic and killfile all who respond?" I find your demeanor quite
> > selfish
> >> and your rationale more than just a bit absurd. ;-) Natalie, if I may
> > offer
> >> some gentle advice, take a walk outside, take a deep breath of fresh
air,
> >> give your head a shake and then proceed to get a life and move your
> > soapbox
> >> down the street! If we feel the need to be saved from ourselves, I'm
sure
> >> that we will be able to find you or someone just like you. Thanks for
> > caring
> >> about our well being. Now do us all a favor and find a new pulpit. Your
> >> welcome is worn out here.
> >>
> >
> > That does not strike me as gentle advice, any more on topic than the
rest
> > of
> > the thread, or anything but a personal attack, but as long as we are
giving
> > advice, the best way to make a thread go away is to ignore it.
> >
> >
> Hey, he knows all about me. You should listen, since he thinks he can
help
> you all by ridding Usenet of this OT plague! The irony here is so amazing
I
> can hardly believe it. Here is yet another wannabe netcop who's going on
the
> offensive for something that has been around since the inception of
Usenet.
> OT netkkkops are always so quick to forget that while a forum may be
created
> for discussion of a particular subject, it's also another mode of
> socialization. I have yet to see any forums that do not allow off-topic
> discussion (they try, but to no avail). Most insist that the thread is
> marked OT, but that's about it. I really was trying to be nice and maybe
a
> bit helpful, and as usual, there's a turd in the punchbowl who overreacts
and
> attacks. He/she/it should just frequent moderated NGs and see all the
> netkkkopping anyone could want...
>

At the risk of getting off topic, there are some groups that do not allow
off topic posts, as stated in their FAQ. Some are moderated. Moderators
tend to be intolerant of posts that are off-topic or in some cases that do
not address the topic appropriately. For example, they may reject a post
that merely says, "What sort of zipzap should I buy?" They will say that a
proper post should list the qualities one expects from a zipzap, etc.

Of course, the same moderators will accept off topic posts from regulars,
but that's another story.

Now can we get back to the topic of smoking?

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:348hhgF49dg2lU1@individual.net...
>
> "Hagrinas Mivali" <remove.to.reply@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:9qWdnVX5U_Bdk0LcRVn-qA@giganews.com...
> >
> > "StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
> > news:FvqdnemSu6ellkLcRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
> >> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:348bujF1t8rlgU1@individual.net...
> >> > Killfile those of us you find offensive, because I can tell you
without
> >> > reservation, that trying to get people to stop discussing a subject,
no
> >> > matter how inappropriate one feels the topic is, will simply not
work.
> >> >
> >> > For instance, when some moron posts spoilers in their subject line
> >> > regarding a movie or show I haven't watched yet, I killfile them
without
> >> > making a big fuss. All that happens when you try to 'netcop' is a
flame
> >> > war. It's not worth it.
> >> >
> >> > Natalie
> >>
> >> Sadly, there is no reasoning with the likes of you and your ilk. If you
> >> think your meandering diatribe is good for us, then you impose yourself
> > upon
> >> us. If you have to label something as "OT", has it ever occurred to
you
> >> that perhaps you should not post it and impose your compulsive
obsessive
> >> behaviour upon us? No, of course not. Such are the inane ramblings and
and
> >> selfish motives of your type. "Why should I stop posting off-topic when
I
> >> can force all the legitimate users of these automotive NewsGroups, to
> > filter
> >> the topic and killfile all who respond?" I find your demeanor quite
> > selfish
> >> and your rationale more than just a bit absurd. ;-) Natalie, if I may
> > offer
> >> some gentle advice, take a walk outside, take a deep breath of fresh
air,
> >> give your head a shake and then proceed to get a life and move your
> > soapbox
> >> down the street! If we feel the need to be saved from ourselves, I'm
sure
> >> that we will be able to find you or someone just like you. Thanks for
> > caring
> >> about our well being. Now do us all a favor and find a new pulpit. Your
> >> welcome is worn out here.
> >>
> >
> > That does not strike me as gentle advice, any more on topic than the
rest
> > of
> > the thread, or anything but a personal attack, but as long as we are
giving
> > advice, the best way to make a thread go away is to ignore it.
> >
> >
> Hey, he knows all about me. You should listen, since he thinks he can
help
> you all by ridding Usenet of this OT plague! The irony here is so amazing
I
> can hardly believe it. Here is yet another wannabe netcop who's going on
the
> offensive for something that has been around since the inception of
Usenet.
> OT netkkkops are always so quick to forget that while a forum may be
created
> for discussion of a particular subject, it's also another mode of
> socialization. I have yet to see any forums that do not allow off-topic
> discussion (they try, but to no avail). Most insist that the thread is
> marked OT, but that's about it. I really was trying to be nice and maybe
a
> bit helpful, and as usual, there's a turd in the punchbowl who overreacts
and
> attacks. He/she/it should just frequent moderated NGs and see all the
> netkkkopping anyone could want...
>

At the risk of getting off topic, there are some groups that do not allow
off topic posts, as stated in their FAQ. Some are moderated. Moderators
tend to be intolerant of posts that are off-topic or in some cases that do
not address the topic appropriately. For example, they may reject a post
that merely says, "What sort of zipzap should I buy?" They will say that a
proper post should list the qualities one expects from a zipzap, etc.

Of course, the same moderators will accept off topic posts from regulars,
but that's another story.

Now can we get back to the topic of smoking?

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:cvCdndAFjPEVjELcRVn-oA@rogers.com...
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:348hhgF49dg2lU1@individual.net...
> > Hey, he knows all about me. You should listen, since he thinks he can
> > help you all by ridding Usenet of this OT plague! The irony here is so
> > amazing I can hardly believe it. Here is yet another wannabe netcop
who's
> > going on the offensive for something that has been around since the
> > inception of Usenet. OT netkkkops are always so quick to forget that
while
> > a forum may be created for discussion of a particular subject, it's also
> > another mode of socialization. I have yet to see any forums that do not
> > allow off-topic discussion (they try, but to no avail). Most insist
that
> > the thread is marked OT, but that's about it. I really was trying to be
> > nice and maybe a bit helpful, and as usual, there's a turd in the
> > punchbowl who overreacts and attacks. He/she/it should just frequent
> > moderated NGs and see all the netkkkopping anyone could want...
> >
> > and like all netkkkops, he keeps reading the thread. Go figure.
> >
> > *rolling eyes*
> >
> > Natalie
>
> That's it Nat. When you sense that you've lost a battle of wits (One that
> you were completely unarmed for!), don't respond to the one who has
> outwitted you, just talk to the air and hope that your ilk will join the
> chorus! LMAO!!!
>

Another possibility is to take the gm group off the list and hope he doesn't
continue going for tat because of it.

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
news:cvCdndAFjPEVjELcRVn-oA@rogers.com...
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:348hhgF49dg2lU1@individual.net...
> > Hey, he knows all about me. You should listen, since he thinks he can
> > help you all by ridding Usenet of this OT plague! The irony here is so
> > amazing I can hardly believe it. Here is yet another wannabe netcop
who's
> > going on the offensive for something that has been around since the
> > inception of Usenet. OT netkkkops are always so quick to forget that
while
> > a forum may be created for discussion of a particular subject, it's also
> > another mode of socialization. I have yet to see any forums that do not
> > allow off-topic discussion (they try, but to no avail). Most insist
that
> > the thread is marked OT, but that's about it. I really was trying to be
> > nice and maybe a bit helpful, and as usual, there's a turd in the
> > punchbowl who overreacts and attacks. He/she/it should just frequent
> > moderated NGs and see all the netkkkopping anyone could want...
> >
> > and like all netkkkops, he keeps reading the thread. Go figure.
> >
> > *rolling eyes*
> >
> > Natalie
>
> That's it Nat. When you sense that you've lost a battle of wits (One that
> you were completely unarmed for!), don't respond to the one who has
> outwitted you, just talk to the air and hope that your ilk will join the
> chorus! LMAO!!!
>

Another possibility is to take the gm group off the list and hope he doesn't
continue going for tat because of it.

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

*ducking back into the cross-post to answer Hagrinas*

See below:

"Hagrinas Mivali" <remove.to.reply@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:VvKdnSaF6LdbikLcRVn-jQ@giganews.com...
>
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:348hhgF49dg2lU1@individual.net...
>
> At the risk of getting off topic, there are some groups that do not allow
> off topic posts, as stated in their FAQ. Some are moderated. Moderators
> tend to be intolerant of posts that are off-topic or in some cases that do
> not address the topic appropriately. For example, they may reject a post
> that merely says, "What sort of zipzap should I buy?" They will say that a
> proper post should list the qualities one expects from a zipzap, etc.
>
> Of course, the same moderators will accept off topic posts from regulars,
> but that's another story.

I know - but to chastise someone for cross-posting and being off-topic then
doing the same is just plain dumb.
>
> Now can we get back to the topic of smoking?

LOL
>
>
I'm only posting on this subject to the alt.auto.toyota now, so if you care
to discuss it further, that's where I'll be (I'm not subscribed to any of
these other NGs anyway)

Natalie, ducking out to go back to her home turf

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

*ducking back into the cross-post to answer Hagrinas*

See below:

"Hagrinas Mivali" <remove.to.reply@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:VvKdnSaF6LdbikLcRVn-jQ@giganews.com...
>
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:348hhgF49dg2lU1@individual.net...
>
> At the risk of getting off topic, there are some groups that do not allow
> off topic posts, as stated in their FAQ. Some are moderated. Moderators
> tend to be intolerant of posts that are off-topic or in some cases that do
> not address the topic appropriately. For example, they may reject a post
> that merely says, "What sort of zipzap should I buy?" They will say that a
> proper post should list the qualities one expects from a zipzap, etc.
>
> Of course, the same moderators will accept off topic posts from regulars,
> but that's another story.

I know - but to chastise someone for cross-posting and being off-topic then
doing the same is just plain dumb.
>
> Now can we get back to the topic of smoking?

LOL
>
>
I'm only posting on this subject to the alt.auto.toyota now, so if you care
to discuss it further, that's where I'll be (I'm not subscribed to any of
these other NGs anyway)

Natalie, ducking out to go back to her home turf

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:348ikdF3fktcuU1@individual.net...

> Even if I had, he didn't say it in the same way you did. There is no need
to
> be nasty, but this guy feels there is

Actually, this guy thinks he's droll. There is no real effort to keep the
topic on thread....he appears to believe he is exercising an extraordinary
wit. Instead we get the same tired usenet insults that have bounced around
the web since the early '90's.

It's the old lollipop at the gunfight syndrone, and he thinks he's doing
great :^)

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958nofeckingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:348ikdF3fktcuU1@individual.net...

> Even if I had, he didn't say it in the same way you did. There is no need
to
> be nasty, but this guy feels there is

Actually, this guy thinks he's droll. There is no real effort to keep the
topic on thread....he appears to believe he is exercising an extraordinary
wit. Instead we get the same tired usenet insults that have bounced around
the web since the early '90's.

It's the old lollipop at the gunfight syndrone, and he thinks he's doing
great :^)

Re: OT - Re: CHOKE on this!
 

"StingRay" <StingRay@Vette.com> wrote in message
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> "Hagrinas Mivali" <remove.to.reply@sbcglobal.net> foolishly wrote in
message
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> > That would depend on your state's laws. I found AZ too smoky for my
> > likings.
>
> Whew! That's quite a statement Hag! (May I call you Hag?) AZ is a pretty
big
> state! You're not generalizing are you? Couldn't find a single smokefree
> spot in the state! Let me tell you Hag, your opinion is really important
to
> us all now. You really have our attention.
>

If I lived there, I would *not* be cruising the whole state looking for a
smoke-free spot. I was working in Phoenix regularly, and found the same
level of discomfort in almost every restaurant I went to. If I would have
had to have limited myself to certain places, that would have made it to
smoky for my likings.

I did not generalize one bit. I talked about my likings, and not whether
it's too smoky for anybody else, or right for anybody else. You seem to be
the one who is generalizing here by applying my comments to anything but
what I said.

If you can give a drop of evidence to show that I didn't find it too smoky
for my likings, then by all means chime in. Or perhaps you are generalizing
to the point that you think that everybody's tastes are like yours or that
everybody is like you.