Re: Civic hesitation problem...
Matt Ion wrote:
> jim beam wrote: >> Matt Ion wrote: >>> JHLorusso@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> it sounds like you converted from DPFI to MPFI, in which case a bit >>>> of wiring was involved >>>> >>>> simple run down to check your wiring against >>>> >>>> ECU pin component >>>> a1 inj 1 >>>> a3 inj 2 >>>> a5 inj 3 >>>> a7 inj 4 >>>> a15 inj resistor box >>>> >>>> >>>> run all red/blk wires from injectors back to resistor box >>>> swap pins from c1 and c2 to b10 and b12 respectively >>>> run new wire from c1 and c2 into engine bay >>>> swap out old DPFI distributor plug to MPFI plug (matching colors) >>>> wire from c1 goes to blue/grn wire on new distributor plug >>>> wire from c2 goes to yell/grn wire on new distributor plug >>>> extend TPS plug 6" and swap outer 2 wires >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> sounds like you forgot to switch the TPS wires >>> >>> Both engines (the one that came out of the car, and the new one) have >>> the same intake systems, the "PGM-FI PROGRAMMED FUEL INJECTION" >>> throttle bodies and multipoint injectors. I'll tell him to >>> double-check the wiring, but I don't think that'll be it. >> >> it's likely that it is - the tps sensor rotation is opposite on the >> 2pfi to the 4pfi. the plug and sensors are the same but the wires are >> reversed as a result. > > Except that both the previous engine and the new engine are both MPFI > with identical throttle bodies... > then check the cam timing. |
Re: Civic hesitation problem...
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:NE21i.173204$DE1.115546@pd7urf2no... >> Buddy of mine just rebuilt (with all OEM parts!) a D16A6 with PGM-FI for >> his '89 Civic (including the appropriate computer and wiring harness). Got >> it installed, turned the key, engine turned 3 times... and fired right up. >> Very nice. Idles smoooooth and quiet... >> >> But when he gives it any gas, even just sitting in neutral, it bogs and >> hesitates. Hit the gas too fast, and it just sputters and dies. Do it >> carefully, and once it gets 1800rpm or so, it works fine. It also seems >> to idle a little bit rich. >> >> Thoughts? Ideas? He's checked for error codes, but it's not giving any. >> >> TIA >> > It would really help to separate mixture trouble from ignition trouble. How > about a timing light to see what the timing does when the throttle is opened > a bit? The timing should advance a few degrees, but not jump fifteen degrees > or retard a lot. (It may retard some based on the rise in MAP.) Similarly he > can try adding a squirt of starting fluid into the air cleaner a second > before he opens the throttle to see if that improves the response - which > would point to a lean mixture on throttle opening. Ignition timing has already been checked, but I'll pass on the other suggestion. |
Re: Civic hesitation problem...
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:NE21i.173204$DE1.115546@pd7urf2no... >> Buddy of mine just rebuilt (with all OEM parts!) a D16A6 with PGM-FI for >> his '89 Civic (including the appropriate computer and wiring harness). Got >> it installed, turned the key, engine turned 3 times... and fired right up. >> Very nice. Idles smoooooth and quiet... >> >> But when he gives it any gas, even just sitting in neutral, it bogs and >> hesitates. Hit the gas too fast, and it just sputters and dies. Do it >> carefully, and once it gets 1800rpm or so, it works fine. It also seems >> to idle a little bit rich. >> >> Thoughts? Ideas? He's checked for error codes, but it's not giving any. >> >> TIA >> > It would really help to separate mixture trouble from ignition trouble. How > about a timing light to see what the timing does when the throttle is opened > a bit? The timing should advance a few degrees, but not jump fifteen degrees > or retard a lot. (It may retard some based on the rise in MAP.) Similarly he > can try adding a squirt of starting fluid into the air cleaner a second > before he opens the throttle to see if that improves the response - which > would point to a lean mixture on throttle opening. Ignition timing has already been checked, but I'll pass on the other suggestion. |
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