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Detergent Oil
Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What
exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. Brian |
Re: Detergent Oil
"Shredder" <shred@shredder.com> wrote in message
news:NyMWg.10079$OE1.9352@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > An odd mention; nearly all motor oil is detergent. I've only heard of non-detergent oil being used for break-in, and I don't know anyplace that stocks it. The API rating and weight are the things you want to look for. I have heard bad buzz about Havoline from my motorhead brother and a couple other sources, but most major brands will do just fine. I also favor synthetic, but I don't want to start that whole discussion again. Mike |
Re: Detergent Oil
"Shredder" <shred@shredder.com> wrote in message
news:NyMWg.10079$OE1.9352@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > An odd mention; nearly all motor oil is detergent. I've only heard of non-detergent oil being used for break-in, and I don't know anyplace that stocks it. The API rating and weight are the things you want to look for. I have heard bad buzz about Havoline from my motorhead brother and a couple other sources, but most major brands will do just fine. I also favor synthetic, but I don't want to start that whole discussion again. Mike |
Re: Detergent Oil
"Shredder" <shred@shredder.com> wrote in message
news:NyMWg.10079$OE1.9352@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > An odd mention; nearly all motor oil is detergent. I've only heard of non-detergent oil being used for break-in, and I don't know anyplace that stocks it. The API rating and weight are the things you want to look for. I have heard bad buzz about Havoline from my motorhead brother and a couple other sources, but most major brands will do just fine. I also favor synthetic, but I don't want to start that whole discussion again. Mike |
Re: Detergent Oil
Shredder wrote:
> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > > They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 and it still is no good today :). Any name brand oil labeled the latest "SM" and/or "GF-4" will work fine for you as long as you stick with the severe service schedule of the owners manual. John |
Re: Detergent Oil
Shredder wrote:
> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > > They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 and it still is no good today :). Any name brand oil labeled the latest "SM" and/or "GF-4" will work fine for you as long as you stick with the severe service schedule of the owners manual. John |
Re: Detergent Oil
Shredder wrote:
> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > > They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 and it still is no good today :). Any name brand oil labeled the latest "SM" and/or "GF-4" will work fine for you as long as you stick with the severe service schedule of the owners manual. John |
Re: Detergent Oil
John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: > Shredder wrote: >> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >> would be great. >> >> >> > > They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All > modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can > still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some > convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 > and it still is no good today :). Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart bottle of the stuff on my shelf. This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the price. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Detergent Oil
John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: > Shredder wrote: >> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >> would be great. >> >> >> > > They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All > modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can > still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some > convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 > and it still is no good today :). Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart bottle of the stuff on my shelf. This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the price. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Detergent Oil
John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: > Shredder wrote: >> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >> would be great. >> >> >> > > They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All > modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can > still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some > convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 > and it still is no good today :). Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart bottle of the stuff on my shelf. This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the price. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Detergent Oil
Whats the reason for non-detergent oil in lawn mowers? My Honda mower calls
for 10w30 oil. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
Whats the reason for non-detergent oil in lawn mowers? My Honda mower calls
for 10w30 oil. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
Whats the reason for non-detergent oil in lawn mowers? My Honda mower calls
for 10w30 oil. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9858E63C77913tegger@207.14.116.130: > John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in > news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: > >> Shredder wrote: >>> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >>> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >>> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >>> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >>> would be great. >>> >>> >>> >> >> They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All >> modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can >> still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some >> convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 >> and it still is no good today :). > > > > Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart > bottle of the stuff on my shelf. > > This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those > "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the > price. > > > > > Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced features. However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't hurt if changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9858E63C77913tegger@207.14.116.130: > John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in > news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: > >> Shredder wrote: >>> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >>> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >>> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >>> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >>> would be great. >>> >>> >>> >> >> They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All >> modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can >> still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some >> convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 >> and it still is no good today :). > > > > Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart > bottle of the stuff on my shelf. > > This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those > "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the > price. > > > > > Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced features. However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't hurt if changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. Scott |
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