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Re: Detergent Oil
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9858E63C77913tegger@207.14.116.130: > John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in > news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: > >> Shredder wrote: >>> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >>> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >>> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >>> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >>> would be great. >>> >>> >>> >> >> They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All >> modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can >> still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some >> convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 >> and it still is no good today :). > > > > Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart > bottle of the stuff on my shelf. > > This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those > "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the > price. > > > > > Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced features. However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't hurt if changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
"Shredder" <shred@shredder.com> wrote in message news:NyMWg.10079$OE1.9352@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > OK .... this answered my question. Should I consider using synthetic or a synthetic blend? or use Honda Oil? |
Re: Detergent Oil
"Shredder" <shred@shredder.com> wrote in message news:NyMWg.10079$OE1.9352@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > OK .... this answered my question. Should I consider using synthetic or a synthetic blend? or use Honda Oil? |
Re: Detergent Oil
"Shredder" <shred@shredder.com> wrote in message news:NyMWg.10079$OE1.9352@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. What > exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent oil? Does > someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent oil? Maybe I > should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this would be great. > > Brian > OK .... this answered my question. Should I consider using synthetic or a synthetic blend? or use Honda Oil? |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott wrote:
> "TeGGeR�" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns9858E63C77913tegger@207.14.116.130: > >> John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: >> >>> Shredder wrote: >>>> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >>>> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >>>> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >>>> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >>>> would be great. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All >>> modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can >>> still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some >>> convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 >>> and it still is no good today :). >> >> >> Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart >> bottle of the stuff on my shelf. >> >> This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those >> "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the >> price. >> >> >> >> >> > > Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non > detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via prodding by > the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial mowers now come > with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine control, o2 sensors and > M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic > converters, and other advanced features. > However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't hurt if > changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs $1700 > and up don't take chances, use good oil. > Scott non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott wrote:
> "TeGGeR�" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns9858E63C77913tegger@207.14.116.130: > >> John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: >> >>> Shredder wrote: >>>> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >>>> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >>>> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >>>> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >>>> would be great. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All >>> modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can >>> still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some >>> convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 >>> and it still is no good today :). >> >> >> Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart >> bottle of the stuff on my shelf. >> >> This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those >> "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the >> price. >> >> >> >> >> > > Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non > detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via prodding by > the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial mowers now come > with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine control, o2 sensors and > M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic > converters, and other advanced features. > However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't hurt if > changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs $1700 > and up don't take chances, use good oil. > Scott non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott wrote:
> "TeGGeR�" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns9858E63C77913tegger@207.14.116.130: > >> John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:AzUWg.2034$i84.628@trnddc01: >> >>> Shredder wrote: >>>> Just got an 03 Odyssey. The manual says to use a detergent oil. >>>> What exactly is a detergent oil. What brands of oil are a detergent >>>> oil? Does someone make a synthetic or synthetic blend of detergent >>>> oil? Maybe I should stick with Honda oil? Any thoughts on this >>>> would be great. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> They must be using the same line of text from 30 years ago. All >>> modern fully formulated motor oils are "detergent" type oils. You can >>> still find SA rated non-detergent motor oils at dollar stores and some >>> convenience stores. Never use that junk! It wasn't any good in 1940 >>> and it still is no good today :). >> >> >> Lawnmowers still use straight 30wt non-detergent oils. I have a quart >> bottle of the stuff on my shelf. >> >> This is a good time to mention never to waste your money on those >> "premium" lawnmower oils. They're just 30-wt non-detergent, at twice the >> price. >> >> >> >> >> > > Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non > detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via prodding by > the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial mowers now come > with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine control, o2 sensors and > M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic > converters, and other advanced features. > However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't hurt if > changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs $1700 > and up don't take chances, use good oil. > Scott non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. |
Re: Detergent Oil
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:MfCdnZD2NuV3q7DYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > scott wrote: >> Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non >> detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via >> prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial >> mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine >> control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, >> hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced >> features. >> However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't >> hurt if >> changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs >> $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. >> Scott > > non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't > emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when > they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was from 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent oil. If you have a current owner's manual for your mower I would suggest you read it.If you (or any one else)are interested I will try to find a link to he service bulletins that apply. Please don't take offense, I just had to say something as it is my job to deal with misconceptions like this daily. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:MfCdnZD2NuV3q7DYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > scott wrote: >> Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non >> detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via >> prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial >> mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine >> control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, >> hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced >> features. >> However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't >> hurt if >> changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs >> $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. >> Scott > > non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't > emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when > they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was from 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent oil. If you have a current owner's manual for your mower I would suggest you read it.If you (or any one else)are interested I will try to find a link to he service bulletins that apply. Please don't take offense, I just had to say something as it is my job to deal with misconceptions like this daily. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:MfCdnZD2NuV3q7DYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > scott wrote: >> Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non >> detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via >> prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial >> mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine >> control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, >> hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced >> features. >> However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't >> hurt if >> changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs >> $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. >> Scott > > non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't > emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when > they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was from 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent oil. If you have a current owner's manual for your mower I would suggest you read it.If you (or any one else)are interested I will try to find a link to he service bulletins that apply. Please don't take offense, I just had to say something as it is my job to deal with misconceptions like this daily. Scott |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in > news:MfCdnZD2NuV3q7DYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > >> scott wrote: >>> Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non >>> detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via >>> prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial >>> mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine >>> control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, >>> hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced >>> features. >>> However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't >>> hurt if >>> changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs >>> $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. >>> Scott >> non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't >> emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when >> they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. >> > > > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service > bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was from > 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent oil. > If you have a current owner's manual for your mower I would suggest you > read it.If you (or any one else)are interested I will try to find a link to > he service bulletins that apply. > Please don't take offense, I just had to say something as it is my job > to deal with misconceptions like this daily. > Scott > > no offense taken! i hardly ever mow the lawn, and read the manual even less. i have however had to fix a crank case full of congealed mayonnaise... |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in > news:MfCdnZD2NuV3q7DYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > >> scott wrote: >>> Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non >>> detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via >>> prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial >>> mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine >>> control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, >>> hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced >>> features. >>> However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't >>> hurt if >>> changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs >>> $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. >>> Scott >> non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't >> emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when >> they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. >> > > > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service > bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was from > 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent oil. > If you have a current owner's manual for your mower I would suggest you > read it.If you (or any one else)are interested I will try to find a link to > he service bulletins that apply. > Please don't take offense, I just had to say something as it is my job > to deal with misconceptions like this daily. > Scott > > no offense taken! i hardly ever mow the lawn, and read the manual even less. i have however had to fix a crank case full of congealed mayonnaise... |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in > news:MfCdnZD2NuV3q7DYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > >> scott wrote: >>> Actually no small engine (mower) manufacturer still recommends non >>> detergent oil,and lawn mower engines have come a long way via >>> prodding by the E.P.A. , believe it or not some engines on commercial >>> mowers now come with Bosch designed E.F.I. with computerised engine >>> control, o2 sensors and M.I.L. lights just like a car. Also, >>> hydraulic lifters, some have catalytic converters, and other advanced >>> features. >>> However, I will admit in a $99 mower the non detergent oil won't >>> hurt if >>> changed often, but when a serious 25-30 hp engine replacement costs >>> $1700 and up don't take chances, use good oil. >>> Scott >> non-detergent oil is recommended for mowers because it doesn't >> emulsify as bad when water gets into the crank case - as happens when >> they get left out in the rain, then stored in a garage all winter. >> > > > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service > bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was from > 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent oil. > If you have a current owner's manual for your mower I would suggest you > read it.If you (or any one else)are interested I will try to find a link to > he service bulletins that apply. > Please don't take offense, I just had to say something as it is my job > to deal with misconceptions like this daily. > Scott > > no offense taken! i hardly ever mow the lawn, and read the manual even less. i have however had to fix a crank case full of congealed mayonnaise... |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in
news:Xns985993644ECC8nunya@207.115.17.102: > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service > bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was > from 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent > oil. My nearly brand-new Tecumseh-engined mower's manual says I can use either straight 30-wt or 5W-30 motor oil. My choice. In fact, it came with a 20oz bottle of that "premium" 30-wt lawnmower oil. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Detergent Oil
scott <scott@screwspambots.net> wrote in
news:Xns985993644ECC8nunya@207.115.17.102: > Jim, your information is very much out of date. The oldest service > bulletin from Briggs and Stratton I could easily lay my hands on was > from 1990 and even back then, 16 years ago they recommended detergent > oil. My nearly brand-new Tecumseh-engined mower's manual says I can use either straight 30-wt or 5W-30 motor oil. My choice. In fact, it came with a 20oz bottle of that "premium" 30-wt lawnmower oil. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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