TL

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:18:12 GMT, "Dungheap" <dungheap@3dretreat.com>
wrote:

>Preaching to the choir my friend I know the seat is a safety hazard,
>though I didn't think about it from the airbag and seatbelt perspective,
>only from the having to "brace" to keep from losing control while the seat
>moves.
>
>Curious about the "notch" in the track that you mention. This is the power
>8 way adjustable so it doesn't really have a notch that it should be in
>afaik.

I wasn't thinking. Of course you have a power seat, as do I! I was
thinking about the notches on a manual seat. I know that seat movement
has been a major safety issue since the days when seats used to pull
out of the floor in a major collision. I never thought about it with
power seats, but there must be some kind of locking mechanism or
perhaps its on a threaded rod (though it would hard to understand how
that could slip).

>I know the radio face plate shouldn't do it. The dealer says "when we
>replace it the new piece warps out too so its pointless to fix it, live with
>it" Its the 6 disk in dash changer radio... don't know if that matters or
>not *shrug*

I love when someone responds to a problem by saying, yeah it's a real
problem, we can reproduce it, it's an engineering problem, therefore
we're not responsible to fix it. By that logic, any problem that is
systemic doesn't have to be fixed. That's nuts IMHO. If it is that
wide in hot climates, Honda needs to find a solution.

>While I'm on the topic of annoyances...
>The trim along the bottom edge of the driver's and passenger windows, a big
>flat shiny piece of tape on top of plastic basically, bubbles and peels.
>Mines been replaced and the replaced ones do it too. Once again "live with
>it"
>
>One is a squeak located in the passenger side c pillar somewhere. I have
>taken it back to the dealership numerous times, the service writer has heard
>the squeak twice and subsequently claimed they fixed it each time. Every
>time they 'disassemble' the interior to try to fix a noise the noise gets
>worse and worse. It seems exactly like the TSB someone mentioned a few weeks
>back except my VIN isn't in the affected class.
>
>The second noise is located in the passenger door, its a buffeting noise
>that sounds like canvas blowing in the wind, it usually starts around 65-80
>mph. The service department has messed around in the door numerous times
>but never fixed anything.
>
>-Dung
>
>"TL" <tlehman@visi.com> wrote in message
>news:aa66ovkbigeum6j26uegcu9ggq4og1gcl7@4ax.com.. .
>> Both are clearly issues that need to be addressed by the dealer (or
>> another with a complaint to Honda). The moving seat is in fact a very
>> real safety issue as it affects both seatbelt tension and the distance
>> from the airbag. Seats should not move when they are properly adjusted
>> to a notch in the track. If that is really happening on multiple cars,
>> I can't believe we aren't seeing / won't see a recall.
>>
>> Re the radio, that's pretty bizarre. I'm assuming it is like mine (4
>> cyl EX-L) unless you've got the Nav as well. But it certainly should
>> not do that.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 05:51:55 GMT, "Dungheap" <dungheap@3dretreat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The driver's seat in my 03 EX V6 Coupe with 10k miles on it has done this
>> >under heavy braking since day one, it shifts forward a good 1-2" and is
>> >quite bothersome. The service department at my Honda dealer said its not
>a
>> >safety issue and I should just "live with it" They have also said that
>> >about the clear plastic faceplate on the stock radio that warps and pops
>off
>> >in the Texas heat...
>> >
>> >I hate this car and the lack of service I am getting from the dealers in
>my
>> >area.
>> >
>> >> "Tim Brown" <tweb@islc.net> wrote in message
>> >news:blquvf0v6s@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> >> Has anyone experienced problems with the driver's seat not fully
>locking
>> >> when not in the full backward position. I drive with the seat all the
>way
>> >> back and don't face this daily, but when I test the seat more forward
>it
>> >> seems to "give" just a tad too much for my comfort along with inertia
>in
>> >> stopping. The Honda people think I am am delusional, I believe. Anyone
>> >else
>> >> noticing this?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

M No spam

If you mean on my 2003 Accord EX V6, the answer is yes. Mine was built
in June and has a just over 2000 miles.

I notice that when I do an S curve at highway speeds, I feel the seat
shift to the side a bit. It as if there is some side to side play in the
power seat. It seems to be getting more frequent as the car gets older.

Has anyone gotten Honda to succesfully fix their seat yet?

Tim Brown wrote:

>Has anyone experienced problems with the driver's seat not fully locking
>when not in the full backward position. I drive with the seat all the way
>back and don't face this daily, but when I test the seat more forward it
>seems to "give" just a tad too much for my comfort along with inertia in
>stopping. The Honda people think I am am delusional, I believe. Anyone else
>noticing this?
>
>
>
>

M No spam

If you mean on my 2003 Accord EX V6, the answer is yes. Mine was built
in June and has a just over 2000 miles.

I notice that when I do an S curve at highway speeds, I feel the seat
shift to the side a bit. It as if there is some side to side play in the
power seat. It seems to be getting more frequent as the car gets older.

Has anyone gotten Honda to succesfully fix their seat yet?

Tim Brown wrote:

>Has anyone experienced problems with the driver's seat not fully locking
>when not in the full backward position. I drive with the seat all the way
>back and don't face this daily, but when I test the seat more forward it
>seems to "give" just a tad too much for my comfort along with inertia in
>stopping. The Honda people think I am am delusional, I believe. Anyone else
>noticing this?
>
>
>
>

M No spam

If you mean on my 2003 Accord EX V6, the answer is yes. Mine was built
in June and has a just over 2000 miles.

I notice that when I do an S curve at highway speeds, I feel the seat
shift to the side a bit. It as if there is some side to side play in the
power seat. It seems to be getting more frequent as the car gets older.

Has anyone gotten Honda to succesfully fix their seat yet?

Tim Brown wrote:

>Has anyone experienced problems with the driver's seat not fully locking
>when not in the full backward position. I drive with the seat all the way
>back and don't face this daily, but when I test the seat more forward it
>seems to "give" just a tad too much for my comfort along with inertia in
>stopping. The Honda people think I am am delusional, I believe. Anyone else
>noticing this?
>
>
>
>

Tim Brown

My local service provider just returned my call and said that they have no
indication that is wrong from the headquarters and will just make a note of
it. I think we are out of luck on this one until someone has a wreck due to
it.


"M No spam" <M_no_spam_@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:aI2hb.11356$N94.1581@lakeread02...
> If you mean on my 2003 Accord EX V6, the answer is yes. Mine was built
> in June and has a just over 2000 miles.
>
> I notice that when I do an S curve at highway speeds, I feel the seat
> shift to the side a bit. It as if there is some side to side play in the
> power seat. It seems to be getting more frequent as the car gets older.
>
> Has anyone gotten Honda to succesfully fix their seat yet?
>
> Tim Brown wrote:
>
> >Has anyone experienced problems with the driver's seat not fully locking
> >when not in the full backward position. I drive with the seat all the way
> >back and don't face this daily, but when I test the seat more forward it
> >seems to "give" just a tad too much for my comfort along with inertia in
> >stopping. The Honda people think I am am delusional, I believe. Anyone
else
> >noticing this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Tim Brown

My local service provider just returned my call and said that they have no
indication that is wrong from the headquarters and will just make a note of
it. I think we are out of luck on this one until someone has a wreck due to
it.


"M No spam" <M_no_spam_@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:aI2hb.11356$N94.1581@lakeread02...
> If you mean on my 2003 Accord EX V6, the answer is yes. Mine was built
> in June and has a just over 2000 miles.
>
> I notice that when I do an S curve at highway speeds, I feel the seat
> shift to the side a bit. It as if there is some side to side play in the
> power seat. It seems to be getting more frequent as the car gets older.
>
> Has anyone gotten Honda to succesfully fix their seat yet?
>
> Tim Brown wrote:
>
> >Has anyone experienced problems with the driver's seat not fully locking
> >when not in the full backward position. I drive with the seat all the way
> >back and don't face this daily, but when I test the seat more forward it
> >seems to "give" just a tad too much for my comfort along with inertia in
> >stopping. The Honda people think I am am delusional, I believe. Anyone
else
> >noticing this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Tim Brown

My local service provider just returned my call and said that they have no
indication that is wrong from the headquarters and will just make a note of
it. I think we are out of luck on this one until someone has a wreck due to
it.


"M No spam" <M_no_spam_@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:aI2hb.11356$N94.1581@lakeread02...
> If you mean on my 2003 Accord EX V6, the answer is yes. Mine was built
> in June and has a just over 2000 miles.
>
> I notice that when I do an S curve at highway speeds, I feel the seat
> shift to the side a bit. It as if there is some side to side play in the
> power seat. It seems to be getting more frequent as the car gets older.
>
> Has anyone gotten Honda to succesfully fix their seat yet?
>
> Tim Brown wrote:
>
> >Has anyone experienced problems with the driver's seat not fully locking
> >when not in the full backward position. I drive with the seat all the way
> >back and don't face this daily, but when I test the seat more forward it
> >seems to "give" just a tad too much for my comfort along with inertia in
> >stopping. The Honda people think I am am delusional, I believe. Anyone
else
> >noticing this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Chip Stein

"Tim Brown" <tweb@islc.net> wrote in message news:<bm4eht0153h@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> My local service provider just returned my call and said that they have no
> indication that is wrong from the headquarters and will just make a note of
> it. I think we are out of luck on this one until someone has a wreck due to
> it.
>

i'd have to feel the seat to give a reasonable answer on that one.
they are too complicated to guess.
as for the radio lens. there is a TSB on this for a replacement
lens. bulletin has been out for several days. tell the dealer to do
their job and read these things.
Chip

Chip Stein

"Tim Brown" <tweb@islc.net> wrote in message news:<bm4eht0153h@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> My local service provider just returned my call and said that they have no
> indication that is wrong from the headquarters and will just make a note of
> it. I think we are out of luck on this one until someone has a wreck due to
> it.
>

i'd have to feel the seat to give a reasonable answer on that one.
they are too complicated to guess.
as for the radio lens. there is a TSB on this for a replacement
lens. bulletin has been out for several days. tell the dealer to do
their job and read these things.
Chip

Chip Stein

"Tim Brown" <tweb@islc.net> wrote in message news:<bm4eht0153h@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> My local service provider just returned my call and said that they have no
> indication that is wrong from the headquarters and will just make a note of
> it. I think we are out of luck on this one until someone has a wreck due to
> it.
>

i'd have to feel the seat to give a reasonable answer on that one.
they are too complicated to guess.
as for the radio lens. there is a TSB on this for a replacement
lens. bulletin has been out for several days. tell the dealer to do
their job and read these things.
Chip

ccombs

I just purchased a 2004 Accord V6 and noticed the same problem with the
seat moving side to side, most noticeably to the right. Kind of odd.
Have you found a fix to this?

ccombs

I just purchased a 2004 Accord V6 and noticed the same problem with the
seat moving side to side, most noticeably to the right. Kind of odd.
Have you found a fix to this?

Chip Stein

"ccombs" <ccombs20879@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bea958058c0b1a2a1f7fa6b989621eab@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> I just purchased a 2004 Accord V6 and noticed the same problem with the
> seat moving side to side, most noticeably to the right. Kind of odd.
> Have you found a fix to this?

only fix i found so far was replace the entire seat track since parts
are not available seperately.
Chip

Chip Stein

"ccombs" <ccombs20879@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bea958058c0b1a2a1f7fa6b989621eab@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com>...
> I just purchased a 2004 Accord V6 and noticed the same problem with the
> seat moving side to side, most noticeably to the right. Kind of odd.
> Have you found a fix to this?

only fix i found so far was replace the entire seat track since parts
are not available seperately.
Chip