Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
4th.

I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
the LOW mark.

So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.

I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
enough ATF during the service in the first place.

However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.

As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
could've done to the transmission.

Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
occuring is low.
"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:2ahn20t6ju04bq95622r0ld56kg9ljpbpl@4ax.com...
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
occuring is low.
"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:2ahn20t6ju04bq95622r0ld56kg9ljpbpl@4ax.com...
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
occuring is low.
"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:2ahn20t6ju04bq95622r0ld56kg9ljpbpl@4ax.com...
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
occuring is low.
"Steve Lee" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:2ahn20t6ju04bq95622r0ld56kg9ljpbpl@4ax.com...
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

++++++++++++++++

Steve,

Yes, you're worrying about nothing, but it's good to ask.

Even if you drove the SUV on an extreme climb, or almost rolled it over
on it's side, there's lots of room for error in the level. The tranny
will still pump fluid thru itself. If it was touching the stick at all,
it was plenty full enough to be safe.

After they refilled it, some air may have 'burped' out as you drove it
home. Next person who checks the level finds it down a 'bit'.

'curly'

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

++++++++++++++++

Steve,

Yes, you're worrying about nothing, but it's good to ask.

Even if you drove the SUV on an extreme climb, or almost rolled it over
on it's side, there's lots of room for error in the level. The tranny
will still pump fluid thru itself. If it was touching the stick at all,
it was plenty full enough to be safe.

After they refilled it, some air may have 'burped' out as you drove it
home. Next person who checks the level finds it down a 'bit'.

'curly'

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

++++++++++++++++

Steve,

Yes, you're worrying about nothing, but it's good to ask.

Even if you drove the SUV on an extreme climb, or almost rolled it over
on it's side, there's lots of room for error in the level. The tranny
will still pump fluid thru itself. If it was touching the stick at all,
it was plenty full enough to be safe.

After they refilled it, some air may have 'burped' out as you drove it
home. Next person who checks the level finds it down a 'bit'.

'curly'

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> Soon after I had my last scheduled service (about 1,900miles/3,000KM),
> which had the ATF replaced on my 2003 Pilot, I noticed a slight change
> in the way the transmission was behaving and the way the gears were
> engaging. It was nothing to be alarmed about, just a very slight
> hesitation(?) here and there, only on gentle acceleration when the RPM
> was below 2K and the gears were changing say from 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to
> 4th.
>
> I figured it'd go away, but it never did, so I checked the ATF level
> today and it was slightly below the LOW mark on the dipstick. I would
> say about just below the halfway mark between the tip of the stick and
> the LOW mark.
>
> So, I took it to my servicing dealer and they topped up the ATF for
> me. The fluid looked just fine and there was no burning smell to it.
> The transmission seems to be functioning normally now; it seems to
> have gone back to the way it was before the last schedule service.
>
> I don't think it leaked because I didn't see any signs of leaks on my
> garage floor at all. I'm thinking the technician just never put
> enough ATF during the service in the first place.
>
> However, I'm still concerned a bit about whether there could've been
> any damage at all or that the transmission could've been subjected to
> abnormally high stress because of the low ATF level and the fact that
> I've been driving around like that for close to 1,900miles/3,000KM,
> which could potentially turn into a big problem down the road.
>
> As well, right after the service, we had a very nasty cold spell which
> had the temperatures drop down to -31F/-35C for well over a week, I
> believe, and worries me about what inadequate level of lubrication
> could've done to the transmission.
>
> Would you guys worry at all if something like this happened? Should I
> even bother to request to the service advisor to make a note of this
> in my service record or am I just worrying about nothing? Thanks.

++++++++++++++++

Steve,

Yes, you're worrying about nothing, but it's good to ask.

Even if you drove the SUV on an extreme climb, or almost rolled it over
on it's side, there's lots of room for error in the level. The tranny
will still pump fluid thru itself. If it was touching the stick at all,
it was plenty full enough to be safe.

After they refilled it, some air may have 'burped' out as you drove it
home. Next person who checks the level finds it down a 'bit'.

'curly'

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

In rec.autos.makers.honda Pankoski <pankoski@ccrtc.com> wrote:
> Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
> health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
> mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
> occuring is low.

I felt that way when JiffyLube changed the filter in my Dodge Durango
transmission incorrectly. It took two hours to get the chagne done, with
my car occupying one of the two service racks, because they drained my
fluid before they realized they didn't have my filter. Then the
independent parts house didn't have one either, although they brought
something over that wasn't right. Then they had to get authorization to
buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.

Finally, it looked like they were all done. I heard the car start. I saw
the backup lights come on and go off. I instantly new something was wrong.
On fast idle after having cooled down, I didn't see the body lurch at all.
A few more backup light on/off cycles, and the engine was shut off.

A few more tries, with different people looking on. Off comes the pan for
the third time. Something about the filter was in backwards. Reassembled,
everything seemed to be okay. The "best" they could do for my troubles was
to give me 10% off the price of the service.

They insisted no damage had been done to the transmission. I pointed out
that it had been run for at least a couple of minutes with no fluid. They
insisted that it hadn't engaged, so no problem. I had them make note on
the receipt that it had been run with no fluid for five minutes.

Of course, now 50,000 miles later, if the transmission fails, they will
deny any connection... but who knows. My son has over 300,000 miles on a
Chevy automatic transmission. If mine fails at 110,000, is it inferior
quality Dodge materials, or a lack of lubrication 80,000 miles ago?

---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

In rec.autos.makers.honda Pankoski <pankoski@ccrtc.com> wrote:
> Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
> health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
> mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
> occuring is low.

I felt that way when JiffyLube changed the filter in my Dodge Durango
transmission incorrectly. It took two hours to get the chagne done, with
my car occupying one of the two service racks, because they drained my
fluid before they realized they didn't have my filter. Then the
independent parts house didn't have one either, although they brought
something over that wasn't right. Then they had to get authorization to
buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.

Finally, it looked like they were all done. I heard the car start. I saw
the backup lights come on and go off. I instantly new something was wrong.
On fast idle after having cooled down, I didn't see the body lurch at all.
A few more backup light on/off cycles, and the engine was shut off.

A few more tries, with different people looking on. Off comes the pan for
the third time. Something about the filter was in backwards. Reassembled,
everything seemed to be okay. The "best" they could do for my troubles was
to give me 10% off the price of the service.

They insisted no damage had been done to the transmission. I pointed out
that it had been run for at least a couple of minutes with no fluid. They
insisted that it hadn't engaged, so no problem. I had them make note on
the receipt that it had been run with no fluid for five minutes.

Of course, now 50,000 miles later, if the transmission fails, they will
deny any connection... but who knows. My son has over 300,000 miles on a
Chevy automatic transmission. If mine fails at 110,000, is it inferior
quality Dodge materials, or a lack of lubrication 80,000 miles ago?

---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

In rec.autos.makers.honda Pankoski <pankoski@ccrtc.com> wrote:
> Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
> health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
> mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
> occuring is low.

I felt that way when JiffyLube changed the filter in my Dodge Durango
transmission incorrectly. It took two hours to get the chagne done, with
my car occupying one of the two service racks, because they drained my
fluid before they realized they didn't have my filter. Then the
independent parts house didn't have one either, although they brought
something over that wasn't right. Then they had to get authorization to
buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.

Finally, it looked like they were all done. I heard the car start. I saw
the backup lights come on and go off. I instantly new something was wrong.
On fast idle after having cooled down, I didn't see the body lurch at all.
A few more backup light on/off cycles, and the engine was shut off.

A few more tries, with different people looking on. Off comes the pan for
the third time. Something about the filter was in backwards. Reassembled,
everything seemed to be okay. The "best" they could do for my troubles was
to give me 10% off the price of the service.

They insisted no damage had been done to the transmission. I pointed out
that it had been run for at least a couple of minutes with no fluid. They
insisted that it hadn't engaged, so no problem. I had them make note on
the receipt that it had been run with no fluid for five minutes.

Of course, now 50,000 miles later, if the transmission fails, they will
deny any connection... but who knows. My son has over 300,000 miles on a
Chevy automatic transmission. If mine fails at 110,000, is it inferior
quality Dodge materials, or a lack of lubrication 80,000 miles ago?

---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

In rec.autos.makers.honda Pankoski <pankoski@ccrtc.com> wrote:
> Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
> health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
> mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
> occuring is low.

I felt that way when JiffyLube changed the filter in my Dodge Durango
transmission incorrectly. It took two hours to get the chagne done, with
my car occupying one of the two service racks, because they drained my
fluid before they realized they didn't have my filter. Then the
independent parts house didn't have one either, although they brought
something over that wasn't right. Then they had to get authorization to
buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.

Finally, it looked like they were all done. I heard the car start. I saw
the backup lights come on and go off. I instantly new something was wrong.
On fast idle after having cooled down, I didn't see the body lurch at all.
A few more backup light on/off cycles, and the engine was shut off.

A few more tries, with different people looking on. Off comes the pan for
the third time. Something about the filter was in backwards. Reassembled,
everything seemed to be okay. The "best" they could do for my troubles was
to give me 10% off the price of the service.

They insisted no damage had been done to the transmission. I pointed out
that it had been run for at least a couple of minutes with no fluid. They
insisted that it hadn't engaged, so no problem. I had them make note on
the receipt that it had been run with no fluid for five minutes.

Of course, now 50,000 miles later, if the transmission fails, they will
deny any connection... but who knows. My son has over 300,000 miles on a
Chevy automatic transmission. If mine fails at 110,000, is it inferior
quality Dodge materials, or a lack of lubrication 80,000 miles ago?

---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
news:c0gpik$r21$1@blue.rahul.net...
> In rec.autos.makers.honda Pankoski <pankoski@ccrtc.com> wrote:
> > Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
> > health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
> > mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
> > occuring is low.
>
> I felt that way when JiffyLube changed the filter in my Dodge Durango
> transmission incorrectly. It took two hours to get the chagne done, with
> my car occupying one of the two service racks, because they drained my
> fluid before they realized they didn't have my filter. Then the
> independent parts house didn't have one either, although they brought
> something over that wasn't right. Then they had to get authorization to
> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
>

<snip rest of good story>

Which is why friends don't let friends go to Jiffy Lube.

--
Mike

Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
 

<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
news:c0gpik$r21$1@blue.rahul.net...
> In rec.autos.makers.honda Pankoski <pankoski@ccrtc.com> wrote:
> > Worrying about it won't help the transmission but could lead to personal
> > health problems. I would make the service organization note their potential
> > mistake just in case of future problems. The probability of any problems
> > occuring is low.
>
> I felt that way when JiffyLube changed the filter in my Dodge Durango
> transmission incorrectly. It took two hours to get the chagne done, with
> my car occupying one of the two service racks, because they drained my
> fluid before they realized they didn't have my filter. Then the
> independent parts house didn't have one either, although they brought
> something over that wasn't right. Then they had to get authorization to
> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare.
>

<snip rest of good story>

Which is why friends don't let friends go to Jiffy Lube.

--
Mike