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Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In rec.autos.makers.honda Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote: >> Then they had to get authorization to >> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare. > What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely > possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5 2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or 2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before they found out they didn't have the filter... Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start. I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967 Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill plug is impossible to remove. > made... forget it and enjoy the car. I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will. -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5 |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In rec.autos.makers.honda Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote: >> Then they had to get authorization to >> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare. > What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely > possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5 2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or 2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before they found out they didn't have the filter... Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start. I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967 Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill plug is impossible to remove. > made... forget it and enjoy the car. I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will. -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5 |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In rec.autos.makers.honda Steve <no@spam.thanks> wrote:
> dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com wrote: >> Then they had to get authorization to >> buy a dealer-only part... 2000 Dodge Durango 4WD must be rare. > What engine? 4.7L? If its a 4.7L then it might have been remotely > possible that they were telling the truth as that is a "new" (well, 5 2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or 2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The recommendation is every 30,000 miles. I had a second one done recently by the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. They wound up changing the fluid twice because they had already drained before they found out they didn't have the filter... Odd way to work. I always make sure I have the parts before I start. I also take the filler plug out before the drain plug, ever since my 1967 Datsun Roadster was shipped with an iron plug in an aluminum case... The dealer puts the fluid in through the backup light switch, because the fill plug is impossible to remove. > made... forget it and enjoy the car. I had almost forgotten until this second go 'round. I almost bough the filter at a Dodge dealer in the big city before I took it in to the local shop, expecting that they would have trouble. Next time, I will. -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5 |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In article <c0jftg$47o$2@blue.rahul.net>,
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote: >2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or >2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The >recommendation is every 30,000 miles. Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000 miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service? >I had a second one done recently by >the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally is the best)? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In article <c0jftg$47o$2@blue.rahul.net>,
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote: >2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or >2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The >recommendation is every 30,000 miles. Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000 miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service? >I had a second one done recently by >the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally is the best)? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
In article <c0jftg$47o$2@blue.rahul.net>,
<dold@DrivingXwi.usenet.us.com> wrote: >2000 was the first year for the 4.7. But the tranny job was in 2002 or >2003... I would think there would have been some demand by then. The >recommendation is every 30,000 miles. Wouldn't that mean that 2000 model year trucks reaching 30000 miles in 2002 are among the first ones needing that service? >I had a second one done recently by >the local tire shop, and they couldn't locate the filter either. Why not take the Dodge truck to a Chrysler / Dodge specialist mechanic (dealer or otherwise, depending on which one locally is the best)? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
Sometimes its difficult to know what transmission filter goes on what car. I
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96 transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an honest mistake. Greg |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
Sometimes its difficult to know what transmission filter goes on what car. I
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96 transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an honest mistake. Greg |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
Sometimes its difficult to know what transmission filter goes on what car. I
just replaced the filter on my 97 E150 and it was completely different than the replacement I bought. An older Autozone worker discovered that I had a 96 transmission on my 97 vehicle, and explained that oftentimes the first cars made in a new year are really last years model!! So it's possible for an honest mistake. Greg |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
our local news station did a hidden camera investigation on 'convenience
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price. i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare. BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it. the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you so. everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating the bill and taking up your time. one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with 'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!! unbeleivable. econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles. |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
our local news station did a hidden camera investigation on 'convenience
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price. i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare. BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it. the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you so. everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating the bill and taking up your time. one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with 'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!! unbeleivable. econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles. |
Re: Driving without adequate ATF.
our local news station did a hidden camera investigation on 'convenience
lube' places, juffy lube included, and caught the staff at several chains deliberately 'creating' problems for customers that their cars in fact didn't need at all. the camera crew recorded the mechanics doing things like keeping bogus containers of fluids -long gone bad- in the back of the shop, and surreptitiously dipping the ATF dipstick in that instead of the customer's actual car engine, and coming out to show them the dirty fluid on the stick and solicitously emoting how 'we'll fix you right up, good thing we caught this" and then completely replacing their entire volume of ATF when in fact the car didn't need ANY. this is how the crooked places make their money. a person who maintains their car conscientiously and well won't make them any money!! everything is clean and in good repair!! so they 'invent' some trouble to run up the price. i swear, your tale sounds like jiffy lube ran you around and then tripped themselves up into thir own nightmare. BTW- the managers and bosses are in on it. the only such chain they found was trustworty was Econo-lube. they did only what was needed, they showed the customer each honest step, and charged only what the car needed. if it needed nothing, they told you so. everyone else was doing this ripoff of 'finding' problems and inflating the bill and taking up your time. one of the funniest was seeing the crew drive a brand new car with 'virgin' fluids into an EZ lube, and recording the mechanic, opening the various chambers and clucking and presenting them with dirty dipsticks of each of the various fluids.!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then the guy lied about it, when confronted!!!!!!!!!! unbeleivable. econo lube. nobody else. at least in los angeles. |
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