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Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Wow.

www.consumerreports.org/loadratings

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>
> > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the Element

has
> > a
> > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

with
> > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just considering

> > three
> > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's relative
> > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >

>
> > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of pounds???
> >
> >

>
>
> Positive.
>




Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Wow.

www.consumerreports.org/loadratings

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>
> > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the Element

has
> > a
> > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

with
> > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just considering

> > three
> > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's relative
> > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >

>
> > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of pounds???
> >
> >

>
>
> Positive.
>




Scott MacLean 11-25-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Wow.

www.consumerreports.org/loadratings

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>
> > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the Element

has
> > a
> > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

with
> > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just considering

> > three
> > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's relative
> > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >

>
> > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of pounds???
> >
> >

>
>
> Positive.
>




TP 11-27-2003 10:13 AM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more than
1/3 that it can handle. Not good.

T


"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Wow.
>
> www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> > In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> > "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

Element
> has
> > > a
> > > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

> with
> > > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

considering
> > > three
> > > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's relative
> > > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of pounds???
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> > Positive.
> >

>
>




TP 11-27-2003 10:13 AM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more than
1/3 that it can handle. Not good.

T


"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Wow.
>
> www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> > In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> > "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

Element
> has
> > > a
> > > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

> with
> > > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

considering
> > > three
> > > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's relative
> > > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of pounds???
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> > Positive.
> >

>
>




TP 11-27-2003 10:13 AM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more than
1/3 that it can handle. Not good.

T


"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Wow.
>
> www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> > In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> > "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

Element
> has
> > > a
> > > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

> with
> > > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

considering
> > > three
> > > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's relative
> > > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > > >
> > > > T
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of pounds???
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> > Positive.
> >

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-27-2003 12:45 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Just guessing, but I wonder if it is because of the absence of B pillars? I
know the frame of the suicide doors is supposed to latch into place and
serve as a B pillar when under way, but that still can't be as strong as a
proper cage with A B and C pillars.

"TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pwoxb.24134$Wy4.22905@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
> next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
> faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more

than
> 1/3 that it can handle. Not good.
>
> T
>
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> > Wow.
> >
> > www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
> >
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> > > In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> > > "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

> Element
> > has
> > > > a
> > > > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

> > with
> > > > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

> considering
> > > > three
> > > > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's

relative
> > > > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > > > >
> > > > > T
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of

pounds???
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Positive.
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-27-2003 12:45 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Just guessing, but I wonder if it is because of the absence of B pillars? I
know the frame of the suicide doors is supposed to latch into place and
serve as a B pillar when under way, but that still can't be as strong as a
proper cage with A B and C pillars.

"TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pwoxb.24134$Wy4.22905@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
> next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
> faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more

than
> 1/3 that it can handle. Not good.
>
> T
>
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> > Wow.
> >
> > www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
> >
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> > > In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> > > "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

> Element
> > has
> > > > a
> > > > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

> > with
> > > > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

> considering
> > > > three
> > > > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's

relative
> > > > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > > > >
> > > > > T
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of

pounds???
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Positive.
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Scott MacLean 11-27-2003 12:45 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Just guessing, but I wonder if it is because of the absence of B pillars? I
know the frame of the suicide doors is supposed to latch into place and
serve as a B pillar when under way, but that still can't be as strong as a
proper cage with A B and C pillars.

"TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pwoxb.24134$Wy4.22905@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
> next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
> faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more

than
> 1/3 that it can handle. Not good.
>
> T
>
>
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> > Wow.
> >
> > www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
> >
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
> > > In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
> > > "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

> Element
> > has
> > > > a
> > > > > Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem

> > with
> > > > > this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

> considering
> > > > three
> > > > > people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's

relative
> > > > > interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
> > > > >
> > > > > T
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of

pounds???
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Positive.
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Becker 11-27-2003 12:59 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Just called Honda HQ and asked this question. Indeed this is the load
capacity for it. Don't put 5 brothers in it, it will croak.
don't buy this joke until Honda puts more vitamins into its engine.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <lVswb.29910$4B5.25171@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I asked the Honda salesperson about the Element load limit on Saturday and
>>they didn't know about this ... so they said.

>
>
> They all know about it; they're just avoiding it, because it's a little
> ridiculous.
>
> I mean, come on--4 decent sized guys make the Element over its load
> limit, and that's without any luggage. Something's wrong with that.
>
> It's in the Element owner's manual, so ask to see that.
>



Becker 11-27-2003 12:59 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Just called Honda HQ and asked this question. Indeed this is the load
capacity for it. Don't put 5 brothers in it, it will croak.
don't buy this joke until Honda puts more vitamins into its engine.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <lVswb.29910$4B5.25171@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I asked the Honda salesperson about the Element load limit on Saturday and
>>they didn't know about this ... so they said.

>
>
> They all know about it; they're just avoiding it, because it's a little
> ridiculous.
>
> I mean, come on--4 decent sized guys make the Element over its load
> limit, and that's without any luggage. Something's wrong with that.
>
> It's in the Element owner's manual, so ask to see that.
>



Becker 11-27-2003 12:59 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
Just called Honda HQ and asked this question. Indeed this is the load
capacity for it. Don't put 5 brothers in it, it will croak.
don't buy this joke until Honda puts more vitamins into its engine.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <lVswb.29910$4B5.25171@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "Steve" <corvallis@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I asked the Honda salesperson about the Element load limit on Saturday and
>>they didn't know about this ... so they said.

>
>
> They all know about it; they're just avoiding it, because it's a little
> ridiculous.
>
> I mean, come on--4 decent sized guys make the Element over its load
> limit, and that's without any luggage. Something's wrong with that.
>
> It's in the Element owner's manual, so ask to see that.
>



Becker 11-27-2003 01:08 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
No, just talked to Honda CS help line and the car is a wimp. Designed
for singles to carry the golf clubs or surfboards, nothing else, or the
car will choke under load. Is this the biggest joke ever heard or what.
This explains why Honda link for CS doesn't work.

Scott MacLean wrote:

> Just guessing, but I wonder if it is because of the absence of B pillars? I
> know the frame of the suicide doors is supposed to latch into place and
> serve as a B pillar when under way, but that still can't be as strong as a
> proper cage with A B and C pillars.
>
> "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pwoxb.24134$Wy4.22905@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
>
>>Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
>>next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
>>faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more

>
> than
>
>>1/3 that it can handle. Not good.
>>
>>T
>>
>>
>>"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Wow.
>>>
>>>www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
>>>
>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
>>>
>>>>In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
>>>> "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl .earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

>>
>>Element
>>
>>>has
>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>>>>this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

>>
>>considering
>>
>>>>>three
>>>>>
>>>>>>people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's

>
> relative
>
>>>>>>interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>T
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of

>
> pounds???
>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Positive.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



Becker 11-27-2003 01:08 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
No, just talked to Honda CS help line and the car is a wimp. Designed
for singles to carry the golf clubs or surfboards, nothing else, or the
car will choke under load. Is this the biggest joke ever heard or what.
This explains why Honda link for CS doesn't work.

Scott MacLean wrote:

> Just guessing, but I wonder if it is because of the absence of B pillars? I
> know the frame of the suicide doors is supposed to latch into place and
> serve as a B pillar when under way, but that still can't be as strong as a
> proper cage with A B and C pillars.
>
> "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pwoxb.24134$Wy4.22905@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
>
>>Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
>>next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
>>faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more

>
> than
>
>>1/3 that it can handle. Not good.
>>
>>T
>>
>>
>>"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Wow.
>>>
>>>www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
>>>
>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
>>>
>>>>In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
>>>> "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl .earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

>>
>>Element
>>
>>>has
>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>>>>this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

>>
>>considering
>>
>>>>>three
>>>>>
>>>>>>people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's

>
> relative
>
>>>>>>interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>T
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of

>
> pounds???
>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Positive.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>



Becker 11-27-2003 01:08 PM

Re: Element Load Capacity
 
No, just talked to Honda CS help line and the car is a wimp. Designed
for singles to carry the golf clubs or surfboards, nothing else, or the
car will choke under load. Is this the biggest joke ever heard or what.
This explains why Honda link for CS doesn't work.

Scott MacLean wrote:

> Just guessing, but I wonder if it is because of the absence of B pillars? I
> know the frame of the suicide doors is supposed to latch into place and
> serve as a B pillar when under way, but that still can't be as strong as a
> proper cage with A B and C pillars.
>
> "TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pwoxb.24134$Wy4.22905@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
>
>>Yep, this is the reason that I am taking the Element off my short list of
>>next vehicle to purchase. It's a shame that Honda made this engineering
>>faux pas, I really liked the car but at 6'3" and 250lbs, I make up more

>
> than
>
>>1/3 that it can handle. Not good.
>>
>>T
>>
>>
>>"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:HaNwb.7031$Eq1.845583@news20.bellglobal.com ...
>>
>>>Wow.
>>>
>>>www.consumerreports.org/loadratings
>>>
>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ZqLwb.44783$kq.18672@fe01-2.private.usenetserver.com...
>>>
>>>>In article <A2Kwb.12669$P%1.11172123@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
>>>> "BillW" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"TP" <ardnhe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ts4wb.16286$Rk5.13371@newsread1.news.atl .earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Questions for Element owners. Consumer Reports shows that the

>>
>>Element
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>>>has
>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>Max Load of 675lbs, which is really low. Has anyone had a problem
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>>>>this? Hell, even a Mini has Max load of 850lbs. I'm just

>>
>>considering
>>
>>>>>three
>>>>>
>>>>>>people plus gear and this thing is over loaded. Given it's

>
> relative
>
>>>>>>interior size, shouldn't it be able to carry more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>T
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you sure you are not looking at the kg figure instead of

>
> pounds???
>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Positive.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

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