Element Towing
12-27-2004, 11:59 PM
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Re: Element Towing
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:50:34 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>news:vel1t0hbr68rcqpnbf4fb3a2vi3pkt48rp@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:16:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>>>news:nta1t0lc9bpa9246ukvev89bimmd4h0cg0@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:15:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Me thinks the limits have more to do with the underbody carriage than
>>>>>the
>>>>>engine and transmission, in this case. The element, Cr-V, accord, etc,
>>>>>all
>>>>>seem to have about a 1,000- 1,500 pound limit. I do not think that any
>>>>>of
>>>>>these vehicles have a real "frame." Therefore, nothing real solid to
>>>>>attach
>>>>>the receiver to.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugh Graham
>>>>
>>>> 1) Please don't top post, and
>>>> 2) as I posted on the bottom, the CR-V has a 1 1/2 ton capacity ref -
>>>> http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/hond...-i-vtec-se.asp
>>>>
>>>
>>>Reference this:
>>>http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/hond...enav..8.Honda*
>>>You are right, it is 1 1/2 ton capacity, in us lbs.
>>
>> there are 2200lb in a ton 3300lb is 1 1/2 ton, 1500 is about 3/4 ton,
>> roughly.
>
>thanks for the weights and measurements lesson, but did you look at the
>reference to the edmunds site. It clearly states the towing capacity is
>1500 lbs.
yes I did, and for the US, that is right. For the UK/europe, the
towing capacity for a CR-V is 3300lb
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>Not kg. I find it hard to believe that the UK version fo the CR-V and
>>>tow,
>>>3300 lbs, and that the US version can only tow 1,500.
>>>
>> ok, there IS a major difference. in the UK, any trailer over 500lgk
>> (1100lb, or thereabouts) HAS to have brakes on it, which activate
>> with the cars, OR if it comes loose from the car. There's a standard 7
>> pin connector, which activates the lights, the brakes, and on some
>> cars, will activate towing features for them.
>>
>> better than the 2-wire anderson powerplug connector most trucks use.
>
>I do not think the towing issue is related to the braking ability of the
>vehicle, though that is clearly important, but in this case the tongue
>weight of the vehicle is more the issue. Class 1 hitches are rated at 2,000
>lbs towing and 200 lbs tongue weight. These are the hitches desgined for
>the CR-V. There is no way that a honda is rated to tow 3, 300 lbs.
>
>
>>
>
wrote:
>
>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>news:vel1t0hbr68rcqpnbf4fb3a2vi3pkt48rp@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:16:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>>>news:nta1t0lc9bpa9246ukvev89bimmd4h0cg0@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:15:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Me thinks the limits have more to do with the underbody carriage than
>>>>>the
>>>>>engine and transmission, in this case. The element, Cr-V, accord, etc,
>>>>>all
>>>>>seem to have about a 1,000- 1,500 pound limit. I do not think that any
>>>>>of
>>>>>these vehicles have a real "frame." Therefore, nothing real solid to
>>>>>attach
>>>>>the receiver to.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugh Graham
>>>>
>>>> 1) Please don't top post, and
>>>> 2) as I posted on the bottom, the CR-V has a 1 1/2 ton capacity ref -
>>>> http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/hond...-i-vtec-se.asp
>>>>
>>>
>>>Reference this:
>>>http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/hond...enav..8.Honda*
>>>You are right, it is 1 1/2 ton capacity, in us lbs.
>>
>> there are 2200lb in a ton 3300lb is 1 1/2 ton, 1500 is about 3/4 ton,
>> roughly.
>
>thanks for the weights and measurements lesson, but did you look at the
>reference to the edmunds site. It clearly states the towing capacity is
>1500 lbs.
yes I did, and for the US, that is right. For the UK/europe, the
towing capacity for a CR-V is 3300lb
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>Not kg. I find it hard to believe that the UK version fo the CR-V and
>>>tow,
>>>3300 lbs, and that the US version can only tow 1,500.
>>>
>> ok, there IS a major difference. in the UK, any trailer over 500lgk
>> (1100lb, or thereabouts) HAS to have brakes on it, which activate
>> with the cars, OR if it comes loose from the car. There's a standard 7
>> pin connector, which activates the lights, the brakes, and on some
>> cars, will activate towing features for them.
>>
>> better than the 2-wire anderson powerplug connector most trucks use.
>
>I do not think the towing issue is related to the braking ability of the
>vehicle, though that is clearly important, but in this case the tongue
>weight of the vehicle is more the issue. Class 1 hitches are rated at 2,000
>lbs towing and 200 lbs tongue weight. These are the hitches desgined for
>the CR-V. There is no way that a honda is rated to tow 3, 300 lbs.
>
>
>>
>
12-27-2004, 11:59 PM
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Re: Element Towing
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:50:34 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>news:vel1t0hbr68rcqpnbf4fb3a2vi3pkt48rp@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:16:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>>>news:nta1t0lc9bpa9246ukvev89bimmd4h0cg0@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:15:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Me thinks the limits have more to do with the underbody carriage than
>>>>>the
>>>>>engine and transmission, in this case. The element, Cr-V, accord, etc,
>>>>>all
>>>>>seem to have about a 1,000- 1,500 pound limit. I do not think that any
>>>>>of
>>>>>these vehicles have a real "frame." Therefore, nothing real solid to
>>>>>attach
>>>>>the receiver to.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugh Graham
>>>>
>>>> 1) Please don't top post, and
>>>> 2) as I posted on the bottom, the CR-V has a 1 1/2 ton capacity ref -
>>>> http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/hond...-i-vtec-se.asp
>>>>
>>>
>>>Reference this:
>>>http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/hond...enav..8.Honda*
>>>You are right, it is 1 1/2 ton capacity, in us lbs.
>>
>> there are 2200lb in a ton 3300lb is 1 1/2 ton, 1500 is about 3/4 ton,
>> roughly.
>
>thanks for the weights and measurements lesson, but did you look at the
>reference to the edmunds site. It clearly states the towing capacity is
>1500 lbs.
yes I did, and for the US, that is right. For the UK/europe, the
towing capacity for a CR-V is 3300lb
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>Not kg. I find it hard to believe that the UK version fo the CR-V and
>>>tow,
>>>3300 lbs, and that the US version can only tow 1,500.
>>>
>> ok, there IS a major difference. in the UK, any trailer over 500lgk
>> (1100lb, or thereabouts) HAS to have brakes on it, which activate
>> with the cars, OR if it comes loose from the car. There's a standard 7
>> pin connector, which activates the lights, the brakes, and on some
>> cars, will activate towing features for them.
>>
>> better than the 2-wire anderson powerplug connector most trucks use.
>
>I do not think the towing issue is related to the braking ability of the
>vehicle, though that is clearly important, but in this case the tongue
>weight of the vehicle is more the issue. Class 1 hitches are rated at 2,000
>lbs towing and 200 lbs tongue weight. These are the hitches desgined for
>the CR-V. There is no way that a honda is rated to tow 3, 300 lbs.
>
>
>>
>
wrote:
>
>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>news:vel1t0hbr68rcqpnbf4fb3a2vi3pkt48rp@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:16:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"K`Tetch" <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in message
>>>news:nta1t0lc9bpa9246ukvev89bimmd4h0cg0@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:15:56 -0600, "Hugh Graham" <mattdalt@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Me thinks the limits have more to do with the underbody carriage than
>>>>>the
>>>>>engine and transmission, in this case. The element, Cr-V, accord, etc,
>>>>>all
>>>>>seem to have about a 1,000- 1,500 pound limit. I do not think that any
>>>>>of
>>>>>these vehicles have a real "frame." Therefore, nothing real solid to
>>>>>attach
>>>>>the receiver to.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugh Graham
>>>>
>>>> 1) Please don't top post, and
>>>> 2) as I posted on the bottom, the CR-V has a 1 1/2 ton capacity ref -
>>>> http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/hond...-i-vtec-se.asp
>>>>
>>>
>>>Reference this:
>>>http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/hond...enav..8.Honda*
>>>You are right, it is 1 1/2 ton capacity, in us lbs.
>>
>> there are 2200lb in a ton 3300lb is 1 1/2 ton, 1500 is about 3/4 ton,
>> roughly.
>
>thanks for the weights and measurements lesson, but did you look at the
>reference to the edmunds site. It clearly states the towing capacity is
>1500 lbs.
yes I did, and for the US, that is right. For the UK/europe, the
towing capacity for a CR-V is 3300lb
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>Not kg. I find it hard to believe that the UK version fo the CR-V and
>>>tow,
>>>3300 lbs, and that the US version can only tow 1,500.
>>>
>> ok, there IS a major difference. in the UK, any trailer over 500lgk
>> (1100lb, or thereabouts) HAS to have brakes on it, which activate
>> with the cars, OR if it comes loose from the car. There's a standard 7
>> pin connector, which activates the lights, the brakes, and on some
>> cars, will activate towing features for them.
>>
>> better than the 2-wire anderson powerplug connector most trucks use.
>
>I do not think the towing issue is related to the braking ability of the
>vehicle, though that is clearly important, but in this case the tongue
>weight of the vehicle is more the issue. Class 1 hitches are rated at 2,000
>lbs towing and 200 lbs tongue weight. These are the hitches desgined for
>the CR-V. There is no way that a honda is rated to tow 3, 300 lbs.
>
>
>>
>
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