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hunkman7@excite.com 07-31-2005 07:55 PM

GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and
Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the
recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.

Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
and great product!


Stewart DIBBS 07-31-2005 08:39 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off.


And this is important to the Honda new group because ...?

Stewart DIBBS



Stewart DIBBS 07-31-2005 08:39 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off.


And this is important to the Honda new group because ...?

Stewart DIBBS



sam 07-31-2005 09:52 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has
closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group
because if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm

Stewart DIBBS wrote:
> <hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off.

>
>
> And this is important to the Honda new group because ...?
>
> Stewart DIBBS
>
>


sam 07-31-2005 09:52 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has
closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group
because if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm

Stewart DIBBS wrote:
> <hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off.

>
>
> And this is important to the Honda new group because ...?
>
> Stewart DIBBS
>
>


rjdriver 07-31-2005 10:05 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 

<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> .... While Buick and Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all
> other makes,



I'm sure you meant to say "reliability", but could you please reveal the
source of this conclusion. What study or what survey says so?

Bob




the
> recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
> market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
> increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
> on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
> is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.
>
> Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
> Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
> and great product!
>




rjdriver 07-31-2005 10:05 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 

<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> .... While Buick and Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all
> other makes,



I'm sure you meant to say "reliability", but could you please reveal the
source of this conclusion. What study or what survey says so?

Bob




the
> recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
> market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
> increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
> on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
> is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.
>
> Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
> Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
> and great product!
>




Brian Smith 07-31-2005 10:10 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 

"sam" <justwantsmore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11er02ofb6pcfe8@news.supernews.com...
> Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has
> closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group because
> if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm


Owning a GM is okay if you have a good deal with the local tow truck
operation. I speak from experience {;^(

But I'm much better now, I've been a happy and satisfied Honda owner since
1979.

Brian



Brian Smith 07-31-2005 10:10 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 

"sam" <justwantsmore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11er02ofb6pcfe8@news.supernews.com...
> Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has
> closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group because
> if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm


Owning a GM is okay if you have a good deal with the local tow truck
operation. I speak from experience {;^(

But I'm much better now, I've been a happy and satisfied Honda owner since
1979.

Brian



twfsa 07-31-2005 11:17 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
Well you won't get reliability in a GM piece of , what have you been
smoking?

Honda and Toyota haven't has to resort to employe pricing, because there
sales are not in the toilet like the big 3.

Tom


<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and
> Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the
> recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
> market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
> increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
> on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
> is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.
>
> Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
> Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
> and great product!
>




twfsa 07-31-2005 11:17 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
Well you won't get reliability in a GM piece of , what have you been
smoking?

Honda and Toyota haven't has to resort to employe pricing, because there
sales are not in the toilet like the big 3.

Tom


<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and
> Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the
> recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
> market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
> increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
> on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
> is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.
>
> Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
> Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
> and great product!
>




twfsa 07-31-2005 11:18 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
If your looking for a headache look at a GM product!

Tom


"sam" <justwantsmore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11er02ofb6pcfe8@news.supernews.com...
> Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has
> closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group because
> if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm
>
> Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>> <hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off.

>>
>>
>> And this is important to the Honda new group because ...?
>>
>> Stewart DIBBS




twfsa 07-31-2005 11:18 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
If your looking for a headache look at a GM product!

Tom


"sam" <justwantsmore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11er02ofb6pcfe8@news.supernews.com...
> Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has
> closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group because
> if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm
>
> Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>> <hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off.

>>
>>
>> And this is important to the Honda new group because ...?
>>
>> Stewart DIBBS




Shawn Taylor 07-31-2005 11:21 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
what studys show that JUST the reliablity is making GM increase in sales?
Have you looked on the side of the road lately? Theres GM's reliability!

<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and
> Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the
> recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
> market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
> increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
> on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
> is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.
>
> Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
> Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
> and great product!
>




Shawn Taylor 07-31-2005 11:21 PM

Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share
 
what studys show that JUST the reliablity is making GM increase in sales?
Have you looked on the side of the road lately? Theres GM's reliability!

<hunkman7@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and
> Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the
> recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
> market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
> increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
> on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
> is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.
>
> Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
> Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
> and great product!
>





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